“Your presentation can be no longer than 2 days. You will be timed.”
Erik ten Hag | Currently unemployed
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The answer would be fairly short. You appointed subpar managers that had different Football visions and let all of them try to build a squad based on their visions. Which has led you to spend a lot of money and build subpar disjointed squads.
If they didn’t know that am a bit worried.
That gets you a 3/6 on my scoring sheet. Great answer in terms of how we’ve failed but nothing about your vision going forward. Even Poch scored a 4…I expected better. JPRouve out!
No offense mate but you keep saying that this thread should just be about ETH but you seem to be posting almost exclusively about Ole in it
I like the cut of this guy's jib.
I sincerely hope he coaches us as well as he carries himself.
The rest of the answer is self explaining I'm a better head coach and you won't be successful if you have an incoherent squad.
You also applied a commerce filter to your signings that led you to sign young players you didn't need because they were apparently value for money purely as NFTs and old players you didn't need just because they were famous and kept the more stupid fans happy (which is most of them). You swerved players you did need for the same reason. So for financial reasons you didn't even let the subpar managers follow their visions - and following that logic you eventually appointed one who didn't have a vision at all - which ultimately led to a complete collapse on the field.
You also made it very clear that you didn't care about finishing higher than fourth so that became the club's ambition.
United have had zero commerce filter, as much as you like to repeat that, there is no actual indication that it's remotely true.
Of course. And the club isn't Disneyland either.
Tell that to Klopp. Tell that to LVG. Tell it to Ronaldo's agent. They would laugh in your face.
What would they tell me?
I'd like to believe this is true as it's funny, but there's not a chance in hell that Ten Hag walked into a major job interview and trashed the players and the club. He wouldn't have got the job for starters. The Express just making up shit as usual.
He probably didn't like the Disneyland part.
Did I say that though? Trophies is all that matters but the place was toxic with mourinho. LVG won a trophy but I bet you wanted rid of him because of his style of play. It took fergie like 4 years or something to win his first trophy as manger, solksjaer got 2 and a halve. I’m certain he’d of won a trophy sooner rather then later, got to like 3 semis and a final, just needed a bit of luck.
Well said. Imagine comparing Ole to Mason Greenwood or Jeffrey Epstein (also who the heck was an Epstein "fan"...?). That 'quality' of post results in an instant ignore from me.
Maybe Ten Hag is RAWKish too huh ?
Doesn’t make sense, you’d have to know the inner workings of the club to actually have a go at those running it
They would tell you the club has been run on commercial first principles for years. If you think that doesn't include transfer policy then you don't understand the Glazer problem.
It's hardly a secret.
Im sure people within football know more than us.
Did I say not to sack Jose? He definitely should be sacked. What are you talking about, i have no idea why you are bringing up LVG. I am just saying he is bar far more successful than Ole as a utd manager, doesnt mean he shouldnt be sacked
Ole will win trophy sooner rather than later? Seems like you already forgot how bad we play and why he is sacked. We were playing bad football, dont even try to deny it. Don't blame luck for the semis and final , his decision making was absolutely garbage, he was mostly the reason why we lost the Europa league final. Oh and btw, you cant prove your point, because at then end, he was TROPHYLESS and we played bad football. He achieved nothing.
I am happy that it appears that hes under no illusions about what hes coming to meet.
Eric Ten Hag's Manchester United: What to expect.
The Athletic's Michael Cox and Mark Carey join host Ali Maxwell to explore what Manchester United fans can expect, should Erik ten Hag become their next permanent manager...
The panel analyse the tactical system employed by Ajax in the Champions League and why he wouldn't necessarily be able to just copy and paste at Old Trafford. Plus, wingers doubling up on the same flank, left-footed vacancies in the current squad, whether they will finally sign a defensive midfielder and what his arrival could mean for likes of Aaron Wan-Bissaka, Harry Maguire and Cristiano Ronaldo.
Why, you do realize that the Klopp "disneyland" quote wasn't commercial but about Old Trafford and the value of playing entertaining Football for the fans? I'm not actually sure what LVG would have to say that has any sort of value, the man admitted that he thought United could sign any player in the world, he wanted Muller and Robben which was lunacy at the best of times and even if these players were remotely interested only a lot of commercial deals could have seen United able to afford these players.
An other thing about Klopp, he joined Liverpool, one of the most commercially driven clubs in the world and the kings of trademarking. Finally I would like to know exactly what Mendes has to say in details, the king of part ownership must have an interesting take on the subject.
Can’t see what connections Ten Hag would have at Utd? Donny? But even then that’s just a player.
This is breathtakingly out of touch.
Klopp made it clear that he considered Liverpool a 'Football First' club whereas we were not - hence Disneyland. LVG straight out said we were too commercial and ETH shouldn't come here. Mendes knows very well Ronaldo is more a brand than a football player these days. ETH has apparently already given him his marching orders, as expected by everyone who knows the first thing about modern football.
What is out of touch is to not realize that Klopp commented as a rival club manager and took a cheap shot at United, the rinory being that he is the manager of Liverpool a club that has been and still is one of the most commercially oriented club in the world which is why despite relatively little success they have remained one of the wealthiest. Secondly LVG comments are based on what exactly, too commercial compared to whom? His previous club is the one that has the highest commercial revenues in the world.
And calling Ronaldo more of a brand than a football player is insulting for him and embarrassing for you. It's one thing to say that he is at the twilight of his career or not a good fit for ten Hag but it's an other to suggest that Ronaldo isn't a proper football player in 2022.
Reckon we could all come up with a Ten Hag silly story.
Sources close to Ten Hag claim he impressed John Murtough by putting Darren Fletcher into a half-Nelson arm bar headlock during the interview. Apparently it was part of his answer to a question about how he plans to deal with Ronaldo when he's dropped from the first team next season.
Sources close to Ten Hag claim he impressed John Murtough by putting Darren Fletcher into a half-Nelson arm bar headlock during the interview. Apparently it was part of his answer to a question about how he plans to deal with Ronaldo when he's dropped from the first team next season.
You do not need connection inside the club. People interact with them all the time, agents, etc. The club has also interacted with Ajax previously too
Van der Sar surely has connections at the club.
Its irrelavant. You don’t need connections at the club, because football exists outside of the club too and the club has to interact with the outside especially when it comes to transfers
Agents are the most likely window into your club. They know and interact with everyone, if you put two and two together you can have an idea about what is going on in a club, it's still guessworks but educated ones.
Thanks for claryfing. Some sound conclusions there.
Na I think it’s too long ago, too many comings and goings. The story just seems made up. I mean how many times have we heard stories of managers going int a job and being shocked at a lack of fitness etc. the idea that clubs operations are open books just doesnt ring true to me
He'll have plenty of connections at the club still. People at his level are always in cahoots with their counterparts at other clubs in the UEFA meetings etc.
The story probably is bs though, unless ten Hag has spoken with Rangnick regarding the structure etc.
I’d take better football over trophies every day of the week and a Sunday. It’s just an entertainment where I want to watch my team giving it thier all and playing well. The 1 day of euphoria over a trophy doesn’t negate the other 364 days of the year playing crap football. Mourinho was the antithesis of everything this club should be!
Old Trafford isn't a disneyland for adults or the Theater of Dreams. You should support an other club.
kidding
Ironically it was many of the Mourinho fans who caused a massive rift in our fanbase originally and were willing to sell their souls for a tin pot. I want to win, but I want to win playing the ethos of what makes this club great and unique. Attacking football, youth, a strong togetherness. If any of those things are missing just for the sake of a league cup, it’s absolutely not worth it, just as Jose showed.
Old Trafford isn't a disneyland for adults or the Theater of Dreams. You should support an other club.
kidding
So let me get this right you’d choose bad football and a trophy here and there for entertaining football? Btw entertaining football means trophy’s will eventually come. Playing bad football means you may win a trophy with a bit of luck. People pay loads of money which they’ve earned through hard work to watch united at old Trafford to be entertained. It’s always been about entertainment with united, we’re not Burnley. With entertaining football comes results and trophies. Fans won’t be bothered losing games or finals by giving it there all and attacking. People moan when we lose when we’ve not even bothered trying. 11 men behind the ball and hoping to snatch a goal.
I feel no embarrassment to state the obvious. We are run by people who have cared little for football performance and results as long as the money kept rolling in. And we signed Ronaldo for the name. I will let others judge whether you know what you are talking about. For me fans who can't see the big picture are very much at the heart of the problem.