Erik ten Hag | 2024/25 | Sacked

Erik ten Hag


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His press conferences are almost darkly comical at this point. I don't think I've ever seen such a petty "top level" manager before.

His accent comically turning ordinary words such as "shared" and "third" into sounding like swear words.

Let's hope that we are indeed "entering the final "turd"", and ten Hag will soon be gone.
 
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The mess they have made of the managerial situation feels like they just tried to postpone the decision for a year which is concerning.

How about getting a new manager when we're not really set up well to select someone, which was the case in the summer, then needing to make another managerial change?

The way I see it, it's better to wait, let the new guys sit in their desks for a while and then make a better decision rather than bring someone in for the sake of it.
 
About improving the attack, he actually said "the players do well" and "we won last season, maybe you forgot"
He actually is deluded, isn't he.
From his point of view last season was an immense success. We just need to accept that he’s genuinely happy with that and we are more than happy with him.
 
How about getting a new manager when we're not really set up well to select someone, which was the case in the summer, then needing to make another managerial change?

The way I see it, it's better to wait, let the new guys sit in their desks for a while and then make a better decision rather than bring someone in for the sake of it.

There is rarely an idea time or scenario to select a manager, they made a mess of it and are now paying the price.

If anything we kept our manager for the sake of it, bringing in someone else would not have been for the sake of it. They chose to go with a manager who was very likely to be favourite for the sack very quickly and who has little credit with players, fans and media.

INEOS could start from scratch, ETH couldn’t and when he almost inevitably carried on as usual it’s straight into a crisis that was as predictable as it was avoidable.

They made a big mistake in the summer, now they need to own the responsibility and consequences of it. Mistakes are going to be made but it’s about getting enough right and correcting mistakes quickly.
 
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The most nauseating thing about these quotes is that I can actually believe that it really is quiet inside the club and he really is safe. Followed closely by how arrogant this fraud is
What I’ve been saying for a long time. He’s got one of the safest jobs in the league and we are happy with him.
 
I seriously hate him! He's taking the piss out of everyone!
I've thought some of our previous managers needed to go before, but never disliked any of them the way I dislike this guy. You can see the arrogance in him.
 
£600m on 21 players, many Dutch and/or handpicked by EtH equals an all in.
They can't sack him now.
 
Although I dont like his pressers in the last 6 months, the way he is speaking and just pure bullsh**, he isn't lying here is he?

The noise is all coming from the media pushing the agenda about his job, internally he is not under the same pressue?

Look at the board meeting United had, journalists were in attendance and they were going on about as if its a Ten Hag review meeting.

We didn't see this level of scrutiny for Chelsea managers in the last 2 years.

The media couldn't print speculation about his job if his team weren't in relegation form. They haven't just made everything up out of this air, whether or not they've told him figures at the club will be thinking about changing manager.
 
The media couldn't print speculation about his job if his team weren't in relegation form. They haven't just made everything up out of this air, whether or not they've told him figures at the club will be thinking about changing manager.
He could actually have been a bit humble and say that he understands that there is speculation about his job with the current form.
 
These conferences make me chuckle.

The ‘big’ football ‘journalists’ asking Erik bland, non-specific, questions that allow to respond in a very bland, non-specific, way.

Must be a great way to make a living!
 
He could actually have been a bit humble and say that he understands that there is speculation about his job with the current form
He could also have gone on the offensive and asked the journalists if they think they’re doing such a great job!
 
He could also have gone on the offensive and asked the journalists if they think they’re doing such a great job!
In my opinion, he should have stood up and thrown his shoe at the reporter and then shown 2 fingers, representing the 2 big trophies we've won under his management, while yelling "respect!".
 
He could also have gone on the offensive and asked the journalists if they think they’re doing such a great job!
You think they're saving the goodies for the post-match presser or will we hear "we need to keep working hard".
I believe he does think that draws are good, but still can't understand the league position.
 
Score predictions for tomorrow say most people think we'll get the job done. Definite divide there between the views of the majority and the tunnel-visioned pessimism that threads like this cultivate.
 
Always hilarious to see people whine about media negativity. You want less negativity? Then start winning games.
 
Score predictions for tomorrow say most people think we'll get the job done. Definite divide there between the views of the majority and the tunnel-visioned pessimism that threads like this cultivate.
What you drinking? Come on you’re on the Toilet Duck again aren’t you? :)
 
He said that last season was successful. What happened to standards?

If Real Madrid got 8 place and won Copa del Rey, would that be successful?
 
This man really said that the year where he oversaw both our worst Premier League and European campaign in history was a success.

I can't quite take that in.
 
He could also have gone on the offensive and asked the journalists if they think they’re doing such a great job!
They're doing a shit job because they won't ask him Wtf he's drinking thinking everything is fine. He deserves every bit of aggro he gets from everyone including the press if they deservedly tore him a new one.
 
This man really said that the year where he oversaw both our worst Premier League and European campaign in history was a success.

I can't quite take that in.
He has won two trophies and sees that as success. Didn't just winning cups get Big Ron the sack because we weren't competing for the league title?
 
I think this is the first manager where I've started to actively dislike them rather than just thinking it's best we parted ways. His team performs like shit, he performs like shit and frankly he is stealing a living.
 
Will we? Seriously think about it and come back to me.
Tomorrow we will win. Ten hag always does just enough to keep himself going on and a win tomorrow probably buys him another month

Don’t think we will beat Mourinho in Turkey though. Players won’t be up for it
 
Patience is indeed needed but in difference roles specifically to the sporting director one. That's why SJR said 'they only started working in July'. Football had changed alot since the 80s and the manager role had been seriously dumbed down. The days when CEOs didn't even know how much salary rival managers were paid are over. These days many CEOs had made their bones in the football world. Then there's the sporting director who take care of the most 'brain' intensive roles (vision, transfer strategy, making all departments work together in an efficient manner). Meanwhile the academy is also made independent from the first team and given its own aims, its own budget and its own people to lead it.

Modern managers focus mostly on tactics and morale. However even in these two areas they are hugely aided. There are set piece coaches who takes care of set pieces, goalkeeper coaches who take care of goalkeepers, assistant managers with huge CVs who aid him in training, technical directors who take care of the technical stuff and help the transitioning of academy players to first team, data analysts who spoon feed the coaching staff with tons of information about the team and the opposition and an army of medical people and psychologists who help him choose the fittest players and to keep morale up. It's nowhere near to the big role SAF had in the 90s were he was the head of the football pyramid with a clueless Edwards being the head of the business and with Sir Bobby acting as the voice of reason between the two.

I am not suggesting that head coaches (cause that's what they are these days) shouldn't be given time. Tactics are sometimes difficult to understand and implement especially if those who brought the head coach in were stupid enough to hire someone whose philosophy goes completely against the strengths of the squad. However it shouldn't take years either. We had zero progression despite having an almost Dutch speaking team. Surely the likes of Onana, De Ligt, Martinez, Mazraioui, Eriksen, Antony and Zirkzee don't need years to understand ETH's 'game'. Same can be said about players he either promoted (Mainoo, Garnacho etc) or he brought in (Casemiro, Ugarte etc). Yet what we're witnessing is the same old injury crisis (with persistent rumors regarding ETH's heavy handed training), the same tumescent style of football and the same diabolical form both in the EPL and in Europe. To add insult to injury we're now reverting to Ole ball with Evans and Maguire which is hilarious considering that ETH had spent so much on that defense to bring his own men in.
I agree. Well put. I just want to add that also an intelligent and capable manager can contribute immensely to the long term project of the club, ie. transfers and strategy - even if they don’t have the last say. Again, look at Brentford and Frank where there’s clearly a beneficial dialectical relationship between manager and club.
 
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