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Erik ten Hag | 2024/25 | Sacked
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I fully understand why but there's a lot of old news being rehashed and stating of the obvious.
"ETH is working under the impression that he will be in charge for Brentford" - as you would expect from any professional.
I'm not sure much can be read into the silence but my feeling is that if we hear nothing by tomorrow then he's staying. Ineos could very easily get a reputation for being indecisive if the decision to sack him is made next week or after the Brentford game.
"ETH is working under the impression that he will be in charge for Brentford" - as you would expect from any professional.
I'm not sure much can be read into the silence but my feeling is that if we hear nothing by tomorrow then he's staying. Ineos could very easily get a reputation for being indecisive if the decision to sack him is made next week or after the Brentford game.
Would managerial compensation packages be counted in our FFP constraints? I.e. would it adversely impact our winter/summer window funds if we're forced to pay millions to dismiss him?
I don’t understand why they extended Ten Hags deal
Didn’t make sense then. Doesn’t now
He didn’t need “backing” - after finishing 8th keeping him was backing enough
Offer to trigger the option in January if he starts the season well (which he predictably didn’t)
Didn’t make sense then. Doesn’t now
He didn’t need “backing” - after finishing 8th keeping him was backing enough
Offer to trigger the option in January if he starts the season well (which he predictably didn’t)
And if anybody wants to buy this Weymouth fan a pint, I can found on Saturday eating a veggie burger in the away end at Forest Green Rovers...
Don't really care what the excuses are tbh. The fact he's still here is utter nonsense and looks bad on the new football heirachy. Any serious football team would have sacked him in summer, let alone after the back to back 3-0 defeats.
Yes but I don't think we're constrained by that. It's the actual funds that will be more of a problem.
Every time a manager from any club gets rumoured to be getting sack we get the lazy speculation of assuming his compensation must be the number of years left on his contract times his annual salary.
It's highly improbable any manager has had those terms in his contract for at least the last thirty years.
It's highly improbable any manager has had those terms in his contract for at least the last thirty years.
I agree. They shouldn’t have but I think his condition was to extend before the season for obvious reasons. He knew if he gets canned he can get more money out of it. This “condition” along with the fact that he gave that interview in Holland about how we came crawling him to Ibiza alone is grounds for sacking.
Yeah. Letting ten hag sit because of the cost to sack him is saying the finances are #1, even if it means we finish bottom half this season, they're willing to sacrifice (another) season at the expense of the cost to sack him. Also probably because they doubt sacking him and replacing would actually get us in the CL this season at this point, so it's just a money risk. Which is shite to hear from the new owners who should be football focused and not be willing to throw away entire seasons on a garbage manager.
If us sitting at 14th, having our worst PL start ever is not enough reason, then who knows what is. I presumed that business people would realize when to cut their losses. We're heading for a bottom half finish with a top 6 squad. Laughable.
Does every club come out every few weeks to confirm that they support their manager and that he's safe? I don't think it's common practice, hence I don't see why we would need to do that either.
Damn good veggie burgers there, the green devil spicy burger is much better than anything i've eaten at any other stadium. Also you get to chant dirty vegan bastards at them all game!
I think he'll stay on now for the remainder of the season. Maybe the club may move him on with a few games to spare, similar to Moyes, and our league position is already set.
But I'm bracing myself for another indifferent campaign.
But I'm bracing myself for another indifferent campaign.
Well many here seemed to think it had to be done otherwise we risked poor performance from the players. Worked out well...
Why throw away a season and make our rebuild even harder?
Honestly i don't know but you can tell that to our owners if they continue to persevere with ETH as I've ran out of understanding thier methods.
I’m sure all are reading. Meant to, but got called away before I could add.
My "guess" is that the part of the club responsible for these decisions - i.e. the Football Executives currently can't all agree on either whether to sack him, or if they are agreed that they should sack him, what to do next.
If all of the key football people (employed on big contracts, with some having required millions in compensation packages) decided he needed to go, he'd be gone.
Nobody on here knows what he's due if he's sacked, but it won't be every penny of his contract, upfront. That's why clubs and managers negotiate an exit package. Managers always need to be paid off, and not achieving hits the club in the pocket massively.
Clearly the financial aspect of any decision will be considered, but I'm certain that if Dan Ashworth & Co wanted him gone but the Accountant's had the final say, they wouldn't be hanging around, nor probably have taken their jobs in the first place.
You can laugh, 6 positions above us with Fulham.Marco SilvaThere’s some honking names on that list but that one gave me a belly laugh.
I'm not really sure why you keep mentioning accountants as if they're the only people who care about the financial impact of a decision.
Nope but given the strong rumours circling around his sacking and the 7 hours board meeting and whatnot. It's not unreasonable for someone from the board to say something to suppor the manager?
Nonsense he’s still there. Fed up of it now. Boring football, can’t score for toffee and getting battered on a frequent basis. Do something ffs.
It was a scheduled meeting. They’ve already said before he has their full backing, gave him an extension and for all we know they are happy with him. For all we know they may have not even discussed manager’s job yesterday.
The only thing that is making any sense to me (not much) is that they think due to his record in cups that he is more likely to win the Europa League than Ruud no matter how bad it gets.
Doesn't make sense if you look at our European form obviously but who knows. Or maybe they are just embarrassed to admit they were wrong to keep him on.
Damn, with compensation package being this good, every decent manager should want to manage us.
I'm sure you're right. Something about player power.
However, the idea that professional footballers playing for Manchester United would fail to give their absolute 100% on the field, regardless of the managerial situation, is insane.
Insane if they didn’t. I believe they are going to fire him tbh. The only problem right now is that they can’t get a preferred replacement.
A food for thought.
This might have been discussed at some point so my bad if it has.
Does anyone think Ten Hag would be better off speaking Dutch with a translator at press conferences? My point being, I don't think he properly explains himself and things come out sort of ''simple'' and ''basic''. I think this could help him communicate to reporters and us (fans) with more intelligent commentary. Before anyone says it, he's not stupid. He looks and sounds worse than reality IMO because of results.
This might have been discussed at some point so my bad if it has.
Does anyone think Ten Hag would be better off speaking Dutch with a translator at press conferences? My point being, I don't think he properly explains himself and things come out sort of ''simple'' and ''basic''. I think this could help him communicate to reporters and us (fans) with more intelligent commentary. Before anyone says it, he's not stupid. He looks and sounds worse than reality IMO because of results.
Too late for that. We all see what happens on the pitch. Whatever he’s saying and doing, isn’t clicking or achieving what he seems to want.
And if you apply that logic that historically then the SAF PL era would never have happened, in the modern day game he would have been sacked about 1988-89 season
Personally I don't think ETH is the man to takes us forward but be careful what you wish for because a lot of fans thought the same about Fergie after 3-4 years of his reign
I don’t think it’s going to be sound any different in Dutch that he doesn’t have a fecking clue what he is doing. He will sound the same, petulant, ludicrous and idiotic when he says one day it will click eh and we need to do better eh.
I can’t believe I’m still reading this sort of crap honestly. It’s just not relevant to where we are now in 2024? So much has changed.
Despite his English his bullshite excuses are easy to understand.
When that happens you know he's getting sacked!
The rumours of his sacking is pretty intense in the media. SJR was also asked by reporter on the subject. If the decision is 100% to keep ETH, I'm pretty sure one of the board personnel will speak to the media. As things stand, ETH days are numbered.
Yes that's very true and to be fair he would have had few complaints back then, thankfully things turned out differently, however I don't think Fergie and Ten Hag is a like for like comparison - would love to be wrong though.
Its funny though, how many yrs has the midfield been centralized to change, then they end up with 3 players 30 or older?
Why were they not working on this for the last 5 yrs? Sure Bruno was good for the first couple of seasons but he is now starting to show his age and his play has dropped. Think about how good this midfield would have been 6-7 yrs ago with Eriksen, Casimero and a young Bruno. Is that when they started looking at them? They need upgrade here desperately. Then maybe if Rashford gets decent service his game improves as well and low and behold they start scoring some goals.
The point of the question is to do a McCarthyesque inquisition.
"Why do you hate America so much that you keep critizicing its politics? Aren't you really a foreign agent?"
Blimey, this comparison really needs to stop.
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