I’m baffled frequently by the cheap giveaways, indecision in defending and lack of tracking back at key moments.
I’m positive Ten Hag is often baffled by the performance level as well, you can see it on his face during games.
Erik ten Hag | 2024/25 | Sacked
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I’m positive Ten Hag is often baffled by the performance level as well, you can see it on his face during games.
Well they might not be talking about the leak itself but the consequences of it. It's evident for everyone to see, how can you possibly be in the board of director of this club and not ask in one of these meetings "hey what F is this hole?" requiring an explanation?
I don't think just because it was an scheduled meeting they just didn't talk about as if we were third on the table.
He may simply need better players to execute his perfect tactics then?
This is a problem with manager who is absolutely perfect, he also needs his players to be close to that level. If they aren’t, things may not work out.
When would he be returning for training?
Weird there’s no outcome leaked/communicated yet
Weird there’s no outcome leaked/communicated yet
A quick search in that paragraph and there is no mention of the word "money". So the topic has not been added in the meeting agenda.
Let's face it, this clown won't be sacked before our next game
They needed to pull the trigger Monday, infact, they should of been doing the damn homework and finding someone suitable to come in weeks ago in preparation for an event like this.
Of course, this club is reactive and not proactive. No other top club in the world would think the football or results shown by this clown is fine. He would have got the boot by Madrid this time last year the latest.
They needed to pull the trigger Monday, infact, they should of been doing the damn homework and finding someone suitable to come in weeks ago in preparation for an event like this.
Of course, this club is reactive and not proactive. No other top club in the world would think the football or results shown by this clown is fine. He would have got the boot by Madrid this time last year the latest.
Why stop there? Big Ron won 2 FA cups and never finished below 4th place before the board sacked him to get Ferguson. He would've probably won 10 European cups in the row, given time.
Terrifying!
All I'm saying is that for the decision makers the situation with ETH is exactly the same as it was back in the day with SAF
The board back then thought he was the man for the job , the fanbase not so much, the first few years of SAF's reign the team was pretty crap, some of his signings were pretty awful and the results weren't very good either
Right now the board appear to think ETH is the man for the job, the fanbase not so much, the team is pretty crap, so are some of the signings and the results
Given what happened maybe the board know have better instincts than us fans, I was there in those early days and I wasn't so sure that SAF was any better than what preceded him, I was wrong and I wasn't alone, , I don't think ETH is the man for us either but I could also be wrong again
But this notion that sacking the manager and bringing in Tuchel, Nagelsman or whomever will automatically make us better is nonsense, they migh but they equally might not, hence the be careful of what you wish for because no one in football guarantees you success
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It is annoying because there won't be another one like him, what's also annoying is that if Redcafe was around in 1989/90 all of you calling him the greatest of all time would be baying for him to be sacked because it was worse than it is now
"Mazraoui out for weeks"
"Martinez out for weeks"
"Maguire out injured"
"Shaw and Malacia still out"
Erik Ten Hag: "Yesssssshh!"
"Martinez out for weeks"
"Maguire out injured"
"Shaw and Malacia still out"
Erik Ten Hag: "Yesssssshh!"
It gives him excuses, which he’ll be happy enough with"Mazraoui out for weeks"
"Martinez out for weeks"
"Maguire out injured"
"Shaw and Malacia still out"
Erik Ten Hag: "Yesssssshh!"
The finance affects the football, along with everything else at the club. Ergo the information related to cashflow will be considered when making a decision.
But a child would know that. So I can only assume you're being disingenuous for the sake of it.
"Mazraoui out for weeks"
"Martinez out for weeks"
"Maguire out injured"
"Shaw and Malacia still out"
Erik Ten Hag: "Yesssssshh!"
That's the excuses until the new year sorted then. Easy one for the fanbase now, we can blame the injuries again and absolve ETH of any responsibility.
No white text?
Still over a week till our next game, and I’m guessing no training until Monday. Still time for us to dream.
Fingers crossed
I am sorry for you. Heh
Perhaps. It was the only time in football history when this happened, ie a manager struggled for years and eventually turned the club around and became incredibly successful for over 2 decades. It will never happen again and ETH is not Fergie.
Did SAF ever even struggle? I know of the "Ta Ra Fergie" banners, but in comparison to ETH's struggles, football and results it was probably title winning form.
Agree with this. Annoys me people keep claiming that our squad isn't good or the players are the problem etc. Now obviously they aren't the holy trinity but you can't tell me garnacho, amad, rashford, hojlund + whatever previous attacking players we've had should be scoring way less than teams like Fulham, Palace, Brentford to name a few. The sooner we have a new manager the better
Right on, Woodward's biggest failing was in not recognising that he needed help from experts and those experts might not say or do things how he liked but they would be correct. If only he had brought in Ralf Rangnick after Jose Mourinho we would be the ones challenging City right now because all Woodward needed was the guy who could point him in the right direction.
Now, I fear, we are too far gone, the money is gone and we keep on making big mistakes in the market even after adding the 'best in class' executives. The road back is going to be hard, expensive and long. Particularly if we keep making mistakes.
It's pretty much the same logic as saying If you let any writer spend enough time typing, they’ll eventually write like Shakespeare. It's complete nonsense
He took over a struggling club, but there were pretty poor periods early on. We came 11th, 2nd, 11th, 13th. The last one was where he was closest to the sack as we were only 2 points away from relegation heading into the new year.
It was a different situation though, and it turned around for good after those first few years.
I know where you're coming from. If Liverpool go through a bad patch, I think people will begin to see Slot the same was as Ten Hag (at press conferences).
The Spurs game - nobody could pass the ball. The players were nervous and I understand that but there's a line where players have to help themselves and get through stuff like that. There's a serious lack of leaders on the pitch. Maybe Ten Hag could have done something or said something but a player not running and tracking back and being way too late to make a sprint, that should be on the player to do regardless of who the manager is or what tactics there are.
I think Ten Hag understands English perfectly well, I just think maybe he's not expressing himself in the best way and maybe if he spoke in his native language he could express himself better.
I see what you did there
You lost me at "We should have kept Moyes"
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Have you ever read the first 6 years of his plays though? They were incomprehensible gibberish, luckily though the Lndon Theatre kept faith in him. They seen he was doing great work behind the scenes.
Who the actual feck is voting to keep him still? Every day it's creeping back up again.
If he isnt sacked by end of the weekend then assuming he stays on.
You would think they would give the new manager a weeks preparation for Brentford game.
You would think they would give the new manager a weeks preparation for Brentford game.
Apparently some people inside our new football hierarchy too.
If nothing else at least we are showing Ten Hag up for the bang average manager he clearly is.
If we'd let him go in the summer there would be plently of element of doubt there, so he would have probably got another top job, if we sacked him now then someone would no doubt take a chance on him, but if we give him another 2-3 months to really hammer home how crap he is, then he will likely never work outside of Holland again, and he can't harp on about not been given a proper chance, etc.
It doesn't help us I know, but it's a least a change to see one of these so called top managers not getting sacked to let them off the hook.
If we'd let him go in the summer there would be plently of element of doubt there, so he would have probably got another top job, if we sacked him now then someone would no doubt take a chance on him, but if we give him another 2-3 months to really hammer home how crap he is, then he will likely never work outside of Holland again, and he can't harp on about not been given a proper chance, etc.
It doesn't help us I know, but it's a least a change to see one of these so called top managers not getting sacked to let them off the hook.
I somehow feel like he will still somehow be really bitter if he does get sacked, blaming everyone else but himself tbh.
Newb oppos I assume?
"Mazraoui out for weeks"
"Martinez out for weeks"
"Maguire out injured"
"Shaw and Malacia still out"
Erik Ten Hag: "Yesssssshh!"
The man would use the injury excuse even if we just had Tom Heaton out.
Time is all that matters apparently.
Also that logic should surely apply to every manager at every club ever? Palace should have kept Hodgson. Liverpool should not have sacked Rodgers or Hodgson etc.? For some reason though, these people never apply the logic to other clubs or players.
What about players? Should we have not signed Van Persie but instead just kept Macheda?
It is so disrespectful to Fergies qualities and legacy to even say such nonsense.
That there is a strawman. No one said that changing the manager will automatically make us better. But sticking with a failing one will almost certainly make us worse (just look at all the metrics this season so far vs. last season - hell, past the Carabao Cup final vs. Newcastle the previous season).
Look beyond a surface level analysis ('Arteta, SAF, etc. got time'), and look at trends. @Iker Quesadillas for example posted a points-per-game graph of ETH vs. Arteta, for example, showing a clear opposite trend.
And I wouldn't be too sure the board thinks that ETH is the right man just because they haven't sacked him yet. We KNOW that ETH is still in post in part because we couldn't agree a deal with Tuchel. INEOS spoke to others as well during that 'review'. So they are far from convinced by ETH. Nor have they given him a new contract, just triggered an option.
IMO, it's actually more likely that a long-term candidate is unavailable because October/midseason/in a contract.
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