Will be indefinitley it feels like.
Erik ten Hag | 2024/25 | Sacked
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You’re right, we can’t properly judge him until he’s had the chance to play Mbappe up front.
Luckhurst is a fecking child, if you’ve ever had the misfortune to listen to the Manchester is red podcast you’ll hear the most negative downbeat podcast on your life, as if it’s not bad enough being a United fan with all the negativity around the club as it is, that cnut likes to wade in with both barrels and you can tell he’s bitter as feck, even on the odd occasion he says something positive it sounds like a negative.
Surely the M.E.N. are embarrassed with his shit, I’m actually a little embarrassed for them.
Wait for it…
“INEOS decide to stick with Ten Hag after Southgate sabbatical confirmed”
“INEOS decide to stick with Ten Hag after Southgate sabbatical confirmed”
For some it wasn’t possible to celebrate that game. It’s stupid, especially in a bad period you should enjoy our good moments.
Be critical when we play poorly, but don’t bring it up when we have a good game. Otherwise what’s the point?
Thank you Tuvok.
I admire his purity. A survivor... unclouded by conscience, remorse, or delusions of morality.
It seemed to be a consistent theme that the better/higher-tier the journalist was, the more they said there was no interest in Southgate. On the flip side, it seemed that the worse the source was the more they linked us to him.
As such I doubt there was ever any real interest, and the links were just media rubbish to generate clicks and revenue.
Pleasure
If you want to remain successful at the top, you should never tolerate mediocrity in any form.
14th in the league and constantly dishing out boring playing style week after week YET he is still in job till now.
Pathetic
14th in the league and constantly dishing out boring playing style week after week YET he is still in job till now.
Pathetic
Various stances is staggering at this point. How can people view it that differently from the obvious? I get Utd fans of a certain type still backing him. But these aren’t fans, they should be so much more cut throat and unforgiving.
It’s like the kid at school who never gets detention even though he never does his homework
Variations in stances? What half head is making the case to keep him?!
Sounds like some of the 'football hierarchy ' are trying to cover their arses.
Looks like Tuchel is coming
Dosn't just sound silly, it is silly, Ratcliffe is a hard-nosed businessman, he didn't get where he is by reacting to noise on social media
Well... I have been critical of their approach from the beginning and so far (while I acknowledge that they did some good stuff in the transfer window) have not seen much reason to get more confident in them. Not everyone thinks of them as saviours, and it's not a clown show to think that way.Fans being angry with INEOS already is peak clown show.
Did you not start spamming the thread yesterday demanding another poster list the reasons they love Man Utd then call them pathetic?
It’s actually the opposite of stupid and it’s the opposite of what the other one calls “hyper-emotional”. It would be completely logical and unemotional for someone who had come to the opinion that a manager was not competent to be ambivalent about short term results that prolong their tenure - to the detriment of long term success, better football, fan happiness and the enduring health of the club.
The money people would likely be against a sacking. All those savings from redundancies will be undone overnight if/when they sack him, and worsened further still in hiring another coach along with their staff. Any miniscule sliver of hope that Ten Hag could turn it around will likely be held onto by those behind the cuts, for one.
This just boggles the mind. If they want to adopt an 'evidence-based' approach, then he should've been sacked in the summer. The 'evidence' is that we've been crap for a season and a half almost. What more do they want to see?
What is this certain type and who are you determine who is or isn't a fan?
What an absolute mess if our owners want the manager gone but the recruitment team thinks we should stick with him. Hopefully this is bullshit because everyone at the club needs to be on the same page even if we don't agree with their decisions.
While I am critical of many issues around INEOS this is none of them. It's not realistic to always expect everybody to be on the same page and it's not important. What is important is that everybody understands his roles and respects the opinion of the experts in areas that are not his own.
So if Ratcliffe personally wants to sack EtH but doesn't enforce it because he trusts Ashworth it is a good sign for for a working structure and good relationships on board level.
He certainly seemed like he was getting emotional yesterday, dare I whisper it, hyper emotional.
Who is determining who or who isn’t a fan? What a wild thing to magic up from what I said
He’s saying that the decision makers shouldn’t be acting as fans when doing their job. They need to be detached and unemotional.
No you have it all wrong. That was just @TheReligion giving us a clear example of a hysterical poster taking a thread miles off topic after becoming hyper emotional.
He was giving us a blueprint of how not to do it. We must protect the meaningfulness of discussion in football threads at all costs.
I don't believe anyone could actually argue for ETH staying at this point and not come across as insane/deluded.
If it's been a discussion then surely he'd be sacked.
No football related discussion could possibly lead to him staying imo
How in the hell could you possibly know there is no chance?
Nobody has a clue about how they operate in the background
The "money people" in a business look at more than spend. Paying to get rid is a significant outgoing, but continued poor performance obviously impacts future revenue. Every league position costs money, and will have an impact on commercial deals as well.
If the cost of sacking him was a decisive factor, why take up the option on his contract to extend by a further year?
Also, there's no way the Accountants are dictating to the multi-million pound a year footballing executives what they can and can't do. That's why this is all so frustrating. The "best in class" footballing structure are making the calls.
Excuse my lack of intelligence.. are you saying to sack him would cost more money than to pay him for the remainder of his contract? - Think about what I’ve just asked! If the answer is No, then I don’t know what there is to think about in all honesty.
Hiring new coaching staff? If they are building the club as they keep telling us they are, they are only hiring at max 3 additional coaches who’s wages are never going to be extravagant.
As an example: We hire Tuchel. Do you reckon his number two who 95% of us probably has never heard of is going to be on £1m a year? Would that be what Bayern was paying him.
I'm simply posing a possible response to the question "why isn't everyone on the same page?" Seeing as they aren't all on the same page and wanting him to be sacked, there must necessarily be a reason. Money is often a pretty popular reason behind decision-making, moreso when it's clear from previous actions arising from our financial troubles.
If you're interested in venturing another guess, either of you, I'd be interested to hear it.
"But these aren’t fans, they should be so much more cut throat and unforgiving."Who is determining who or who isn’t a fan? What a wild thing to magic up from what I said
What is this certain type mean?
Perhaps I interpreted the last part incorrectly
Here we go
Pretty grim reading. When the only reasons to keep him are that he offers stability vs making a change, you know somethings up. I want to buy a beer for whoever put their head above the parapet and said it was all predictable in the summer though. I bet that went down like a lead balloon.
The biggest takeaway, and most concerning aspect, of the article is that it seems our new management team aren't on the same page and not really equipped to make quick decisions as a result.
The biggest takeaway, and most concerning aspect, of the article is that it seems our new management team aren't on the same page and not really equipped to make quick decisions as a result.
Of course it would cost more money. You sack him and you have to pay off his contract, plus pay the wages of the guy who replaces him.
No we don’t. We need experienced staff to come to their own decisions without a bunch of morons turning up at their house etc, or leaving idiotic death threats on social media. Who votes for what in that meeting is absolutely none of yours, mine or any other Joe public’s business
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