In a world where Liverpool sits top of the table and Manchester United are flirting with relegation, Manchester United legend Gary Neville looks at our performances and results and thinks "let's have some more of that", just because he has some fecked up ideology that says no manager should ever be sacked.
Erik ten Hag | 2024/25 | Sacked
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Performances. We've had more encouraging performances structurally and in terms of underlying data than we did last season where we were wide open and fortunate to win a lot of games.
I am not saying these are good enough by the way, I'm just saying we've had better performances vs Villa Southampton Palace and in extended periods of Fulham and Brighton than we did last season.
Yeah they definitely were hungover as I suspected
fecking delusional.
No I actually think structurally we have been better this season compared to last and I'm sure the data backs that up as @VP89 suggests.
However we were fecking shite last year.
Now we're merely slightly better than fecking shite but still mostly fecking shite.
Of the 5 signings, it's blatantly obvious that Ten Hag had a massive say in 3 of them, and was told we were signing the other 2.
Like Sancho, I won't give a shit.
I got the feeling of being a true midtable team for the first time today. Ineos can't continue with this for too long...surely?
Right and that's pretty much what I've said. It's not good enough, but it's better than last season. A narrative that we are relegation fighters is as exaggerative as one suggesting we are in a CL race.
But yeah I'm a delusional troll for suggesting that. We must be a relegation dogfight team.
Doesn’t sound like he’s going anywhere. “IF it gets to that point” I mean we’re currently 14th with a negative goal difference, what point does it need to get to, genuine threat of relegation?
Amazing how there's this much discussion really. Surely (naive idiot alert) everyone's in agreement that it's time to move on. It can barely get worse.
Worryingly everyone apart from the one group of people that matter most, the board!
To be fair, if we carry on doing the numbers we're doing, we won't get very far above relegation. We're atrocious.
So instead of Sacking him now and give the new manager 2 weeks to get to know the team. They will sack him after he fecks up the next 5 games, costing us EL and top 6. Then the new manager will have exactly 2 days to train new tactics with the team. Genius.
How 'expensive' are we talking here ?
Your standards are on the floor if you’re encouraged by the very minor improvements we’ve seen in a very small number of performances against some pretty poor opposition this season. And those are easily outweighed by the continuation of a whole range of fundamental issues which still result in us massively underperforming in a large percentage of our matches, especially against any half decent opposition.
And why is last season your benchmark for comparison? Our worst ever premier league campaign should not be the barometer we use when signs of meaningful improvement are assessed. It’s like comparing one turd with an even bigger, stinkier turd - it’s still just a steaming pile of shit.
Everton have more points than United in the last 15 PL games. Everton.
~15 Million
It’s looking likely that’s the way things are going to play out. So much for these “best in class” appointments. Even that clown Woodward would’ve got shot of this guy by now.
You have to be joking ?
everyones aloud to make a mistake. It’s how long it takes to rectify it that everyone will judge them for. They was in there right to give him a chance under different terms but it hasn’t worked out and whilst only playing 7 games in the season, we can still fix this season. We have a decent enough squad to be challenging for top 4.
To the posters trying to put a positive spin on this. Open your fecking eyes. This is relegation form right now! 14th could very quickly become 16th or 17th over the coming weeks.
He has to be sacked next week.
He has to be sacked next week.
I think he will stay which will be shambolic
He goes into compact conservative style of play when he’s under serious pressure. Once the pressure is alleviated we go back to his kamikaze 5 players press the opposition back four playstyle.
It’s insane how some fans can’t see this happening.
It’s insane how some fans can’t see this happening.
Are you aware you are quoting a journo? Does it really make sense to analyse their phrasing?
Didn't Athletic report 17.5 million?
I do trust the process! Just like I trust corrosion, combustion, shitting one's pantaloons and other similar processes.
Yeah ridiculous but that's what will happen
They’d rather write off the season than admit their mistake in keeping him this summer. That is my take if he isn’t sacked this coming week.
A few months ago I might have looked at our disciplined defense today and thought "yeah, there's some hope." But the last eighteen months of false dawn's have taught me that nothing will change, we'll continue to be shite, and when you really think about it Aston Villa were monumentally shite today and we got lucky.
We haven't got a God given right to win but, feck me, the club deserves better than this shite.
I think it will be less than that. Surely they're not that stupid.
This situation has become completely desperate. This is as bad as it gets for a club like United and there's still inaction from the execs. They need to swallow their pride, admit their mistake and fix the problem they caused in the summer.
Yeah several outlets have reported £17,5m.
Yes, I’m well aware. He’s also a very reliable journalist and judging by the tone of what he’s saying since the game it sounds more likely Ten Hags staying than going. That may change though, let’s hope for the clubs sake it does.
Sounds like he's going nowhere then. The fact that INEOS came in, looked at this idiot scraping 8th place in the league and thought "yes, let's give him a contract extention and build our squad around him" is seriously alarming.
We are a small club with standards as low as they get when you consider the money we spend
We're fecked, aren't we? I've never known a situation where everybody knows a manager needs to be sacked, the fans practically all want him gone, the results and performances are diabolical, and yet not only is he not sacked, he's backed to the tune of another £200m.
I went through this despair with Ole, I never thought we'd sink like this again. We'd never stand by a falling manager for far longer than needed. Yet here we are. We really are a basket case.
My worry now is that these guys in charge can't handle the pressure and scrutiny of leading this club, frozen by fear of making a wrong decision. That's what the summer was, and that's what is happening now. At least under previous regimes they had the nuts to get rid of a club legend, legendary coaches, Sir Alex's choice etc. These guys can't even pull the trigger on some Dutch bloke nobody would give two shits about in a weeks time.
I went through this despair with Ole, I never thought we'd sink like this again. We'd never stand by a falling manager for far longer than needed. Yet here we are. We really are a basket case.
My worry now is that these guys in charge can't handle the pressure and scrutiny of leading this club, frozen by fear of making a wrong decision. That's what the summer was, and that's what is happening now. At least under previous regimes they had the nuts to get rid of a club legend, legendary coaches, Sir Alex's choice etc. These guys can't even pull the trigger on some Dutch bloke nobody would give two shits about in a weeks time.
Reliable or not, I don't think, he will be allowed to quote word for word.
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