He's had over 2 years already ffs! If the structure etc was so bad then how the feck has he finished 3rd and won 2 cups? You can't have it both ways.
Erik ten Hag | 2024/25 | Sacked
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“We will get there, and we trust the players, and one day it will click.”
Genuine quote from ten Hag today.
Genuine quote from ten Hag today.
It's pretty tone deaf especially when the United supporters were singing Van Nistelrooys name today, which is no coincidence after all the rumours. That's as close as you'll ever get to them asking for a manager to be sacked.
Not a good idea, those around trump don’t know how to shoot properly either.
Embargo for tomorrow's headlines usually lifts around 10:30pm and I'm not expecting anything of note.
Ahh. So you’re making a monumental assumption based on third and forth hand information from journalists and a pundit.
Understood!
Considering how it was publicly stated that it took 7 years to pay off David Moyes do fans believe managers get their settlement pay off in one lump sum?
I’m confused to why people always care about a pay off which normally gets distributed across the remaining of their terminated contract.
The problem with that train of thought is that we are on a trajectory that screams relegation and it's not even hyberbole. The underlying metrics and actual results screams that. On top of that we are routinely embarrassed in Europe to boot.
We all know he will stay on despite beating his own record in having the worst start a year ago.
INEOS will give him another lifeline, he has more lives than a cat. However, it is delaying the inevitable and where we end up at the end of the season will be on INEOS. At least now at least we have a chance of getting to top 4. If we wait until the next international break I am afraid it’ll be too late.
INEOS will give him another lifeline, he has more lives than a cat. However, it is delaying the inevitable and where we end up at the end of the season will be on INEOS. At least now at least we have a chance of getting to top 4. If we wait until the next international break I am afraid it’ll be too late.
I've been EtH out since the Spuds game but I think we should put today's result into context.
As an isolated game, getting a 0-0 draw at Villa Park when they had an extra days rest and played their European game at home while we had to travel back from Portugal and then visit their ground... is not a bad result.
The bad result was Spurs and before that Liverpool
The fundamental problem is the complete lack of cohesion, the rambling substitutions of a mad man and the complete ineptitude of man-management.
There is no rhythm, there is no cohesive direction, all there is now is a guy who knows he's out of his depth and probably wrecked from poor mental health.
We just need to put him out of his misery at this point.
As an isolated game, getting a 0-0 draw at Villa Park when they had an extra days rest and played their European game at home while we had to travel back from Portugal and then visit their ground... is not a bad result.
The bad result was Spurs and before that Liverpool
The fundamental problem is the complete lack of cohesion, the rambling substitutions of a mad man and the complete ineptitude of man-management.
There is no rhythm, there is no cohesive direction, all there is now is a guy who knows he's out of his depth and probably wrecked from poor mental health.
We just need to put him out of his misery at this point.
He'll be staying. It's the cheapest option for a club that has lost £260m in the last 3 years.
If Ten Hag is our manager at the end of the international break, this forum will need to be institutionalised.
Myself included.
Myself included.
I know but it can't go on like this we are an absolute shambles.
That was sarcasm mate. I wanted him gone in the summer.
This isn’t INEOS though, the decision lies with Berrada a Manchester United employee with zero affiliation with INEOS other than they hired him.
We're 7th if we reverse the table ? Turn that frown upside down count of thinking ? I'm sure there are some alternative facts out there we can use.
The word "still" is funny. As if the last two games had given any reason to ease the pressure on him.
This is all taking way too long and if we are that hesitant to make decisions going forward than lord help us.
Well Ten Hag would have less than 2 years left on his contract so we would be paying that sum over that period. 7-7.5m a year over next few years? Sounds better and affordable, but don’t know whether we can do that or not.
I'm really curious if he actually believes that. He dropped De Ligt and Martinez today so he clearly doesn't trust the players. He abandoned his usual gung-ho tactics to go more compact today so he also clearly doesn't believe in his own system. I'm not sure what exactly will click with more time.
I just can’t. I just can’t anymore.
We’ve scored five goals in seven games. And three of those were in one game against a very poor Southampton team. Only Palace and Southampton have scored the same number of goals or fewer.
That is atrocious. So better than what? What is the benchmark you’re using here for comparison?
I don’t know if you’re being purposely obtuse or if you just do a really good disingenuous impression. Same end, nonetheless.
Yes, I’m commenting on the sentiment by journalists by saying “I can’t believe what I’m reading, these are supposed to be the data driven football people.” What’s the monumental assumption here? Please answer. Because what I implied is that if they’re indeed data driven football people, there’s no way these reports are accurate, and if the reports are accurate then they can’t possibly be the former.
Your first mistake. Taking what journalists say as gospel and accepting it as accurate.
He surely has something on them at this point. And they worried they will leak it if they fire him. Feck me! Grow some balls and do your fecking job as executives and get him the feck out. Just cause not firing one manager worked 30 years doesn’t mean they are all the same.
To be fair, Villa have a weaker squad and a lot more injuries to key players.
McGinn (captain), Onana and Ramsey all start if available.
That was Cash's first appearance in over 6 weeks + they lost Konsa to injury early in the 1st half. Bailey carrying a knock as well.
Mings and Kamara are still recovering from serious knee injuries.
It sort of explains why they were flat after having to do a lot of defending vs Bayern.
We were only missing Shaw and Mount in terms of potential starters.
Sunken cost fallacy
All they need to do is get a journalist to ask him how he feels about Marc Overmars if they want to paint him in a bad light.
Him and Seg probably have everyone at those P.Diddy parties threatening to release.
The man sounds absolutely Teflon at the moment and he couldn’t have started the reason any worse.
Your reading comprehension is not my damage, it’s yours. The first sentence is literally “I can’t believe what I’m reading”
Read this slowly, as many times as you need to get there:
I'd love it if we called his bluff and did that.
That’s where the clubs standards are at these days, where a couple of draws are deemed good enough to keep the manager who currently has us sitting 14th in the league with a negative goal difference. Pathetic.
How confident are we that he still goes within the next few days? Our form can’t be ignored. The result today means nothing. He played that way to hang onto his job.
Tbh I dont remember who won the fa cup 5 years ago either. I can look it up on google, but I will forget within the next 1 hour or so. Real Madrid won 36 league titles and 15 CL, they are the biggest club in the world (its funny that people here laugh at Real Madrid underachievement in the league yet they won nearly twice as many title as you do). I read somewhere that Barcelona won over 100 trophies or something but who cares. Its all about the CL and the League.
And they have executive authority over him, the Glazers ceded that to them and if they wanted him gone he would be. If the football people he has around are twiddling their thumbs he should be reading the riot act and if Ineos read one to him he would act. You don't just get Berrada in and leave the club on autopilot, that's negligence.
If by "there" he means The Championship, then he's right on track.
I can’t see it
I feel like when the time comes, I’ll know. I had that “feeling” with all the others (bar Mourinho, who I thought would be given longer)
I don’t think we’re there yet with Ten Hag for some reason
I just listened to Neville and honestly couldn't believe what I was hearing. Like he is purposly trying provoce the fans. "Before the game you would have snapped hands off for a draw", "eased the pressure", "kept the wolfes at bay" and some other crap about buying time. After a fecking draw against Villa that fielded Ross Barkley and Tielemans in midfield and sees us at 14th place in the table. After spending millions. I get the sense these guys are living in some parallel universe. Their delusion reaches other dimenions at this stage.
Also talked about how it would take the "new structure" 2-3 years to fix this team. Why? You see other teams with much less economic power do it in 6 months. Staggering the amount of excuses.
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