An assembly of big names means that the team is by design largely built around big names otherwise you said nothing. A team that has at the most 2 or 3 big names isn't an assembly of big names, if you have 10 or 15 then it makes sense. Here you listed 8 players across 8 years and the majority didn't even play together, we never built an assembly of big names.
And it's also dubious to consider the signing of two young talents like Sancho and Pogba as big name signings. Those are normal signings of the best prospects by a big club.
Ok so you explain to me what I meant when I used those words. Lets leave it at that. It isn't adding anything to the current debate.
Problem is, this season is heading into disaster territory under this coach. It's almost neglectful to allow him to continue.
I'm at the stage where I hope the Glazers step in and tell Ineos to get rid of this fecker.
I agree. And I totally agree, that something should be done about it. As I said, I am only worried about the successor. If it turns into a RR situation, we won't get something out of it, if it turns into an Ole situation, it is just as bad. I never had too big of expectations for the season to begin with so it would be fine for me to end in no mans land as long as we can improve on some things. But undeniably, even that doesn't look too likely at the moment.
That logic simply doesn't hold. There is a point at which performance and results reach a level which simply isn't sustainable anymore. When that happens, a change must take place - not "for the sake of it", but because continuing with someone who demonstrably is not capable of delivering and who you no longer think is going to get to that point is self-evidently irrational and counterproductive. If management still have confidence that EtH will turn this around and deliver successful football, then that's fine, they should stick with him (and I'll hope they're seeing something I'm not). But if not, going on with him until "the right candidate is available", whatever the feck that is, is the height of bad judgment.
I am worried, that if we bring in the wrong guy, we will simply prolong the drag. I agree with you, keeping everything as it is, is bad. But changing it up only to end up in another Ole cycle is even worse in my eyes. As long as that doesn't happen, I agree with sacking him. But for now we don't know about the current set of decision makers and what they are capable and incapable of.
The cost and uncertainties of change is not a good enough reason to continue with something that you know isn't good enough and isn't going to work out. What does it say to the players, the football world at large and the fans if you do that? Who are you then, as a club? "Yeah, we knew that project was dead, but we didn't really know how to fix it, so we just let it slide until a solution turned up"?
Well yeah kind of?
I mean, at this point, sacking the manager is already admitting that they made a mistake last summer. But sacking him now without an at least good plan what to do, is following a bad decision with a dumb one. At least in my eyes. Also I think, stuff could be handled differently internally and externally. Given that we now have some continuety in the club, it would be much harder for a player to simply "don't give a shit" even when they know the manager will leave at christmas or in the summer. It could be agreed that Ruud and ETH share the position, internally, or what ever, that he has us play like today without the more "complex" ideas he tried to implement. I know, it is far from ideal but I am seriously worried about adding in another factor in the formula.
Do you seriously think decision makers won't "lose face" if they do that? Pretending not to have made a mistake that is obvious to everyone else is the surest way to lose face, and ensure that your face stays lost for a loooong time.
Also, I assume there actually is a contingency plan. If not, given the circumstances, it's the most stunning oversight this club is guilty of this century, which would be saying something.
Well yeah, I don't really like to run on hope, not my nature but that is what I said, I have no objection as long as there is some plan in place.
Definitely. But going for the manager once again can also be seen as impulsive and reactive. Every school of thought has its edges. I can see why people want him sacked, I also don't think, he has it in him to turn it completely around. But just getting rid is often just a special effect. It ups the mood for a little while but thats about it. And just for the record, I'd be happy to get rid of half the squad and the manager so it isn't as if I am afraid of going at it - it just doesn't sit right to make the manager pay alone for things the whole group lacked to do.