The guy who's face we saw close ups of again and again and again, while we were getting outplayed by relegation fodder, not looking too happy at almost every game since the takeover.
Yeah him.
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The guy who's face we saw close ups of again and again and again, while we were getting outplayed by relegation fodder, not looking too happy at almost every game since the takeover.
Yeah him.
We will be back here in November trying to blame INEOS for not giving ETH what he wants when clearly he is an incompetent manager. It’s all well now he has won the FA Cup
I think they used the term devil’s advocate which to me means the other person isn’t necessarily arguing against them cos they are pushing against it, more so they are having a healthy questioning of the thought process.
My question is why is it suddenly Wilcox? Where does Ashworth get thrown in, he's not in the club yet. What is Berradas view.
There's no point guesstimating, we can only go by what we know.
Well if we don’t secure the signings that he requires to have us progress, INEOS will rightly be blamed. You can’t keep him and then refuse to support him with the players he wants and needs.
There was pictures of fans looking unhappy, doesn't mean they know whats best.
Brailsford
“Yes there’s been a lot of instances of players unavailability but you get on with it”
“Has he done enough to merit another season? No”
Phelan I’m sorry for the shorts and setting up cones jokes over the years. You’re a good lad.
Or we will be back in here in two years when certain fans lose patience with yet another manager, and want them sacked for someone else.
At some point you actually have to give a manager time to turn it around.
Feck Phelan
Appartently these days you can base an entire season on a 6 game cup competition ignoring 16 months of terrible form. Fact is over the final 19 games of the PL season he averaged 2 points per game, which is higher than ETH has ever managed. He's got a decent track record of stabilising clubs and making them competitive. Personally, i'd much rather us play well in the league over a sustained period of time rather than scraping by and winning a cup while being dross for the rest of the Season. Reminder, we beat Wigan (league one) 2-0, took us to the 75th minute to score the 2nd goal, we beat Newport County (League Two) 4-2 letting them get back in the tie and drawn level back to 2-2 before scoring the 3rd on 68 mins. We scraped past Nottingham Forest 1-0, the Liverpool win showed good character given Diallo scored the eventual winner in pretty much the final kick of the game. But then we almost lost to Coventry. We rode our luck several times through the competition.
Now the big question and I know what your answer is, would you prefer several seasons of being dogshit in the league and Europe but getting the odd cup win now and then. Or would you prefer bringing a Manager in that could settle the team and make us decent in the league again but perhaps not winning a cup? Personally I want us to play well most weeks, so i'd ride with the sensible option over the playing dross every week but getting a cup win. That's mainly because I want to enjoy us play football most weeks rather than be frustrated that we can barely go three weeks without losing a game. The past 16 odd months have been down right miserable for me as a United fan. There's very little that makes me think Ten Hag can change that rut.
The guys not bitter at all....
The guys an arse clown. No one knew what he really did under Fergie. Done f all after. Came back to give Ole some sort of merit with people still not knowing what he was doing and no one noticed him missing since.
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He has definitively been euphemizing our season while moving the goalposts of expectation and club ambition lower in order to make his work look good. But that is not a sign of lack of personal ambition, on the contrary.
Jeez that was uncalled for "green laughing emoji
Anyway I'm also concerned about the choice of the new manager dragging as well and unless our transfer strategy decides to pursue our targets without the said managers input we could lose some precious time in acquiring our desired targets.
But maybe I'm just too jaded from all the club sale saga so hopefully it all ends well.
You don’t really. You can keep changing them until you get the right one in, which is what most clubs do.
All this over Ten Hag?
Phelan is right though, he doesn't deserve any more chance than the previous managers got based on performances.
So now he is a noone because he doesnt agree with you! he is right in what he said!
At Utrecht?
Apologies if this was posted earlier, but McKenna's signed a new deal, I wonder if this is a sign of INEOS's decision?
https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...r-interest-brighton-chelsea-manchester-united
https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...r-interest-brighton-chelsea-manchester-united
You’re attacking me for simply responding what our own managers aims are next year in response to someone noting Poch’s ceiling isn’t much more than just getting Top 4.
But yeah as an aside I do think noting that the goal for a 3rd season managing a big side, after spending probably close to 600m, being just “getting back into the top 4” is a bit pathetic
No, they’re just not rushing (or looking like they’re rushing) just because x% of United fans (social media, here, etc) are screaming about what should be done. They‘ve watched our season (some awful elements, some good) and post FA Cup, they’re having a calm, serious debate before being comfortable with a decision.
I thought he was still with us! When I saw that pop up I was like, bit harsh given you work in the club. Thought he’d just been ushered in house to work in the canteen or something.
Two trophies in two years is a pretty decent record in my opinion.
Nah I'm agreeing with you mate. He's clearly a cnut and you're clearly incredibly smart.
Just a little ironic coming from Phelan, wouldn't you say?
Our loyalty now is to our current man, not any of our former people - even the heroes of the past.
What about the 8th place finish, 14 league defeats and a negative goal difference?
Don't pretend like you think otherwise. The on going joke since he turned up was his shorts and laying out the cones.
Okay, so what I said originally really did fly over your head didn’t it??!
Personally I put every one of them as a possibility, so I don't have an answer to your question.
What about taking over a shit show of a club and starting to build something.
I think his representatives did a good job holding talks with a number of clubs to get a good deal out of Ipswich personally.
Okay, so what I said originally really did fly over your head didn’t it??!
It was just a daft point.
Disregarded mitigating circumstances outright and failed to name a successor.
You'd get better insight from Mark Goldbridge.
McKenna isn't quite English but I get your point.
Ineos will want their man in, no matter the impact it will have at the club. We are in sincere danger of hiring far worse than ten Hag and talking ourselves into very dangerous water indeed.
What concerns me mostly is Ineos making dire managerial appointments, getting as far as Ole and the executive structure being rewarded for habitual failure.
The likes of Southgate is a terrifying prospect which stinks of Woodwardian cronyism. Just no.
As, besides possibly Tuchel, there is no better candidate, I recommend we hold onto ten Hag, back him and see.
No but it would be nice to have a manager who's confident he can at least challenge for one or both those competitions within 3-4 years.
Ten Hag sounded confident on that front 2 years ago when he was appointed, recently not so much.
Because you disagree with his opinion? Show some respect man.
Nobody else has voiced a problem with it!!
Wonder why.
That’s almost sounding as though he thinks he overachieved this season in reaching 8th!
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