You guys need to chill. It’s obvious nothing is going to happen before the fa cup final. And you all are just stressing over speculation if he will be sacked or not. Have some patience and wait.
Erik ten Hag | 2022/23 & 2023/24
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At least a few of those will likely leave.
And anyone hoping for Rashford to leave I reckon is setting themselves up for disappointment.
Unfortunately we're likely to need to clear out a fair number of the signings we've made since then.
Eriksen and Casemiro are well past it. Evans similar. Antony has had two seasons of looking nowhere near good enough, and I'm not sure any manager is going to change that. There's massive question marks over Mount and Onana. Even Hojlund fits into that bracket, although he's got youth on his side.
That leaves Martinez, who has his own injury concerns, and Malacia, who looks like he's only ever going to be a back-up (if he can stay fit).
He said it is difficult for him because of injuries
Standards are very low. Seen so many who seem satisfied with the performance yesterday
I feel like we can lose narrowly to Newcastle, so long as we don't get demolished, people will be happy with that too.
Ten Hag or not, standards need to be much higher next season surely
I think he's gone. Yesterday was so very abject, in many ways. Manchester United cannot be managed by this man. He's been found out this season, simple. A dreadful man-manager; an ineffective coach; extremely poor in the transfer market; and uninspirational. Our squad are better, maybe not by much, but we are a little better than how we have performed this season.
And that's on him.
(West Ham got a v good manager btw, a shrewd move.. where were we????)
And that's on him.
(West Ham got a v good manager btw, a shrewd move.. where were we????)
I think he's going to be out the door after the final. If we win there may be a few days before we announce it.
It's obviously better than us getting beat 4 or 5 nil but yesterday was still almost as depressing.
We lose at home to Arsenal without creating even a half chance all game and it's seen as a decent performance and result. That's where we are now, that yesterday can be considered a decent day all in all. Standards and expectations are now at absolute rock bottom.
We lose at home to Arsenal without creating even a half chance all game and it's seen as a decent performance and result. That's where we are now, that yesterday can be considered a decent day all in all. Standards and expectations are now at absolute rock bottom.
He will be sacked in the days following the final, but not before. I'm stressing over the very likely prospect that Gareth Southgate will be his replacement.
Got the club chasing about season ticket renewal deadline by Friday. It's such an amazing time to be a United fan at the moment 
Basically, he's blaming the medical team, that's what I "hear"
Ideally I’d get rid of him, but if we do keep him it should be on the conditions that he has little to do with identifying the players we sign in the summer and is gone quickly next season if we see the same problems as this.
But yeah ideally, it should be the end after the final. The injuries aren’t a good enough excuse for just how poor performances have been against everyone in the league.
But yeah ideally, it should be the end after the final. The injuries aren’t a good enough excuse for just how poor performances have been against everyone in the league.
Will be oppo fans having the craic
Good post thanks for those stats, highlights what we are seeing on the pitch.
I know it works both ways. That was my point. When someone was saying we should be on less points we also could have been on more if we hanged onto some leads.
Let's say the players manage to stay fit next season. Ten Hag able to field his Best XI. Could be amazing.
The injuries killed us this season without a doubt.
The goal difference between ourselves and Arsenal is now 65 goals. That is absolutely pathetic. I am shocked at how people are taking this mediocrity Ten Hag has delivered
A lot is going to have to be done, we have 15 players out of contact by summer 2026 and you probably wouldn’t want to renew more than 2 or 3 of them. That’s not even including the players out on loan and the likes of Onana, Mount, Antony and Rashford who all have big question marks against them.
The squad has to be gutted to move forward or you renew the players we know aren’t good enough on terms that make the impossible to get rid of.
Tends to happen when you have a lot of injury prone players on your books, even after Ten Hag we really need to remedy this because we've just got so many useless sicknotes in the squad.
Worst injury crisis I have seen as a United fan. Ten Hag needs a chance to play his preferred XI next season. No coach would get consistent wins and performances out of this injury ravaged squad. We can't be blind to the results and performance, because there are shocking and they are there for all to see, but we can't be blind to the absolute injury nightmare we are in.
He'll be a great option for City after Pep $$$
We should be on less points though. Our xPTS is 11 points less than the current 54 points that we're on.
We should probably have drawn that game vs Chelsea, but should have been beaten comfortably by Brentford, Liverpool and Bournemouth during that 4 game run. We ended up taking 3 points from 12 instead of what should have been 1 point from 12.
This has been a disastrous season. We could easily be on 20+ defeats by now.
Ah, I thought that’s who you meant, didn’t realise he left.
Someone should put him out of his misery and send him back to Ajax's world class medical team.
I feel like even an absolute tonking from Newcastle will see many fans defending him and falling back on the excuses all over again.
His 'best 11' will include Rashford, Antony, Casemiro, Mount....amazing.
Yesterday he brought up players attitude, has he only just noticed that some have a rotten attitude. Was he talking about the performances or about what Rooney was hinting at that some don't want to actually play and are making out their injuries are worse than they are?
Tactics have been awful this year. Can't blame anyone else for that.
Injuries have forced us into some unfortunate situations, an evens/casemiro defence for instance. But then he puts erikson in front of them, making the entire spine of the team a group of older, immobile players and expecting Mainoo to compensate for all 3 with inevitable results. ten hag took our injury crisis and found a way to make it worse.
But my biggest concern with him is not even on the pitch. Its recruitment. He is obsessed with people he has worked with before. Paying over the odds for them is not down to him, but choosing them at all is. And most are not, and never will be good enough. And that is why I don't think he should be here.
Injuries have forced us into some unfortunate situations, an evens/casemiro defence for instance. But then he puts erikson in front of them, making the entire spine of the team a group of older, immobile players and expecting Mainoo to compensate for all 3 with inevitable results. ten hag took our injury crisis and found a way to make it worse.
But my biggest concern with him is not even on the pitch. Its recruitment. He is obsessed with people he has worked with before. Paying over the odds for them is not down to him, but choosing them at all is. And most are not, and never will be good enough. And that is why I don't think he should be here.
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It sounded like he was referring to application on the pitch, not that players are faking injury to not play
He is not wrong about the injuries in that department, but why are we getting these injuries, are some feigned injuries. I do wonder with some of them. Dalot is rarely injured, but I bet he is carrying knocks sometimes. Do we have a load of Louis Saha's on our hands who won't play unless 100%, or do some not want to show their heads above the parapets?
The same crap every week.
'I am such a poor fellow, all of my good players are injured, I cannot deliver with all those injuries....' bla bla bla.
Shut up you bastard! You've spent 300 million in the transfer market and bought players who are either so crap they won't even make Forest's first eleven, or injury prone like hell.
100% self inflicted.
Antony - crap
Amrabat - crap
Casemiro - crap
Weghorst - crap
Reguilon - crap/ injury prone
Malacia - injury prone
Mount - injury prone
Licha - injury prone
Onana - allright, but not worth the fee
Other than Hojlund, none of his transfers worked out.
Yet he is crying about injuries.
Even when the majority were fit we were crap.
He's just a sorry mofo, trying to find excuses for his poor performance as the manager.
'I am such a poor fellow, all of my good players are injured, I cannot deliver with all those injuries....' bla bla bla.
Shut up you bastard! You've spent 300 million in the transfer market and bought players who are either so crap they won't even make Forest's first eleven, or injury prone like hell.
100% self inflicted.
Antony - crap
Amrabat - crap
Casemiro - crap
Weghorst - crap
Reguilon - crap/ injury prone
Malacia - injury prone
Mount - injury prone
Licha - injury prone
Onana - allright, but not worth the fee
Other than Hojlund, none of his transfers worked out.
Yet he is crying about injuries.
Even when the majority were fit we were crap.
He's just a sorry mofo, trying to find excuses for his poor performance as the manager.
We saw what we played like with a largely fit squad at the start of the season though. We also saw how we performed away from home vs the top 10 last season. We've witnessed ten Hag has struggle vs the best coaches in the league across both seasons. The evidence is right in front of you.
Even when Shaw and Lisandro came back into the side in January, the team was still disjointed and conceded multiple goals while facing lots of shots on our goal.
The Wolves game at the start of the season was the biggest indicator of what was to come this season.
Our starting XI was Onana, Shaw, Lisandro, Varane, Dalot, Casemiro, Garnacho, Mount, Bruno, Antony and Rashford. Højlund was the only potential starter missing. They cut through us like a hot knife through butter.
Best case the players are genuinely injured, or it could be that the players are 'protecting themselves' from major injury due to Ten Hag's inability to rotate his first 11 so they're taking themselves out of the selection process to recover from minor issues. Worst case they're avoiding playing because they don't want to get hammered.
If players like Harry Maguire and Bruno who rarely miss games start picking up muscular injuries more than once during the course of a season, it’s probably training related or overuse due to lack of squad rotation. I don’t think our medical team is much to write about and suffers from the same neglect that’s typical of everything under glazer ownership but I don’t think the manager is helping himself with his stubbornness either.
I do wonder who is to blame for the injuries. They have one game per week but most can't seem to handle it. Seems strange
Certainly some failure lies on the medical staff. Casemiro got a second opinion in Brazil on his hamstring and they found he was injured
I'd largely agree mate if Ten Hag goes I wouldn't be surprised if ineos decide to basically draw a line under his tenure and clear out most if not all of his signings.
Hojlund is the only one who I think is safe.
True but there's only so much you can do in one or two summers. It's fine in theory to say we need 10-15 new players. But for the quality we need they'll all cost at least £30-70m each.
Then we have to factor in possible stopgap signings if we can't attract the right profile of player this summer with no CL football to offer.
The collective fanbase will look back on this season 1 day and realize just how shit it truly was
And also laugh remembering ETH was defended vehemently by portions of the fanbase for our worst season in the Premier League era
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