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Thought Jim was a United fan, when did he start watching?
Erik ten Hag | 2022/23 & 2023/24
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I do not think the people are turning against Ineos, just that they think they have fecked up by not sacking him yet. We can be hopeful for next season under Ineos while saying that they were massively mistaken to not have fired EtH and try saving the season.
Why are you convinced our squad is so elite when they have done nothing to show it in the last 11 years?
Christ on a bike.
Kind of happy they have briefed he's going nowhere until the end of the season. At least we know only four more games now.
Not getting relegated.
feck, that’s very bad news.
feeeeeeeeeeeck
I think given the fairly large sample size it’s too simple to say that it’s constantly bad luck on the opposition teams side that we concede so many shots but concede comparatively few goals.
Yeah about 9 months of them.
So are they going to just tell everyone no more poor performances and results then?
Quite a few I recon, they arnt poor players they are just really poorly coached.
It should be impossible for a Man Utd team to lose 4-0 to Palace or Brentford or 3-0 to Bournemouth at home.
Its completely 100% on the manager and its unacceptable
Its completely 100% on the manager and its unacceptable
Which of the teenagers on the subs bench would like him to have put in instead?
He bought 7 of them!
He's cost us so much money that we can't afford it.
The big takeaway from this season that most would agree on is that he hasn't learned from his mistakes and the teams failings right throughout the season. He's just kept making the same selections, the same formation, the same system that doesn't work and even largely the same subs virtually every game.
Were people genuinely thinking he'd go to Bayern? I know they've put themselves in a bad position but ffs.
We've had the same squad for 11 years?
Yes, i think other managers could have got some out of the XI we had on the field, or even picked an XI that wouldn't leave that back four more exposed.
The number one objective when your team is missing so many key players is to make yourself hard to bead first. Ten Hag seems to refuse to change his approach, regardless of injuries. Yet, he bleats on about how many injuries we have. The interview with Neville was pathetic - every answer led back to injuries. He may be trying to protect his own neck, but he is going in about it so much, he is building in a ready made excuse in the mind of his players.
Yes, he has injuries. But be pragmatic. Don't have 5 men ahead of the ball for the throw in. Ensure you have two sitters protecting a semi fit Evans and an out of position / out of form Casemiro.
He is stubborn and hard headed. He is making the same mistakes over and over again. Most shots conceded of any PL team in 2024. Yet, what changes has he made to try and stop it?
I knew we should have played behind closed doors as soon as Bayern started showing an interest.
The sad answer. All of them.
Yeah, it's getting ridiculous now. If our squads worse than Palace how the feck are we 8th when they're 14th?
Dunno. As an example, probably 50% of visual artists (largely the ones who didn't go through fancier fine art university courses where they're taught to think 'conceptually' and write inscrutable essays as well as going into the minutiae of movements and composition) find it difficult to describe 'what' or 'why' they do what they do: people without 1/4 of their talent but who've studied the textbooks, can write better art criticism or even teach the subject better than they can. Even very good poets find Masters courses in Creative Writing difficult at times because of the theory , despite using the same language.
Gazza had a high footballing IQ: not the most illuminating pundit, and not just because of the booze. Lots of footballers see pictures of the game and can respond to some level of pre-match game-plan along with individual instructions described to them, but asking them to put why a player does what they do into words on the spot, rather than reacting kinetically, is different. I wouldn't be surprised if Mitten, as a long-standing football journalist ( just like Jonathan Wilson or Kuper or other people who've never played the game professionally but have written extensively on it) genuinely does have a better understanding of 'what and why' when it comes to tactics than Scholes, with the latter having had managers do most of his tactical thinking for him and just 'problem-solved'' relating to discrete game moments - very well, of course - there and then...
Agree. As Carragher said - we are the worst coached team in the league. The players dont know what to do, so play off the cuff. That can work, as we have talent, but it is not sustainable.
Ole: no, too soon.
Conte: no, would probably expect to be hired permanently if he did well. And probably wouldn't even consider it if it was just for 4-5 games.
Big Sam: no, just too...something.
It would be José or Rooney for me.
Rooney: Pure gamble, but why not? (Then again, if we did well, I could easily see millions of fans demanding that he'd be given a permanent contract).
José: ...yes. That could actually make some sense. Nobody (including himself) would expect anything further, just a pure interim stint (or stunt) - nothing to lose for himself personally and the possibility of sticking it to Pep.
Ten Hag's agent pulled the rumour because even he thought it was too unbelievable.
Always seemed to good to be true.
Outside of Rashford and McTominay, I don't think that a single of our player has been here for 11 years. But outside of that none of our players have every finished a season below Crystal Palace, in fact none of Crystal Palace players have evere been anywhere near top level of any of our players.
Let's see. They're getting pretty desperate. Another public rejection and those stories are likely to come back with a vengeance, even if Arsenal also pump us 4-0
Our squad has been in decline for 11 years, regardless of the players that make it up.
Remember when Arnie went to the pub and told those lads that our squad had nothing to show for £1bn spent? He then proceeded to sanction the purchases of Onana and Antony, and the loans of Weghorst and Amrabat.
We have a real lack of quality and depth which has been exacerbated and exposed by all the injuries this season. Our team really isn’t that good anymore.
Yeah, it's getting ridiculous now. If our squads worse than Palace how the feck are we 8th when they're 14th?
I'd be willing to put my trust in Olise and Guehi but neither are guaranteed to be better than what we have. Neither have been tested at a higher level.
I'm hoping this is some poker game so they get him on a free after we sack him or something. Just make the offer, we won't need any money for him, I promise!
This reminds me of a thread on here years ago about how many United players would get into the Wolves team
That Munich link always felt dodgy and unserious
Well he’s hardly had the options for too much variation. Most games likely haven’t been approached in line with any sort of plan or vision, they have been approached as individual events to simply fond a way to get through somehow with what we have.
The biggest disappointment from me if I had to pick was that I had looked at our team last season and felt it was obvious that we just needed to improve on Eriksen and Weghorst to give us a real chance. However, Ten Hag’s initial plan seemed to be to tear up all the work from last season and try something new. And then it all went to shit quite quickly anyway with players being missing for long periods and Casemiro not bringing anywhere near the same level this season.
I think a good summer can do a lot here, and I don’t see that we definitely need a change yet.
Plz see above response to @stevoc
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