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Might actually be Gary Neville
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Sort of interview I bet his agent pushed to have. Get all the excuses out there for the next employer.
Why would Bayern be interested on him though?It would be quite something if a manager swap were to happen. But maybe this is the most likely such a wild deal has ever been. Tuchel definitely leaving Bayern and would happily come to United and I'm pretty sure Bayern is Ten Hag's dream job.
Honestly could be a win for everyone. I think Ten Hag's project has failed here and he's making daft decisions, but maybe he would do things differently at Bayern.
Why would Bayern be interested on him though?
Why would Bayern be interested on him though?
Rangnick most likely would have been for a season to put some things in track, and maybe bridge the gap that the hierarchy has (with the old hierarchy having left, and Kahn et al not working well). He has a pretty good reputation in building clubs and is an ok coach*.I mean they were after Rangnick and there's clearly a bit of a circus going on there right now. It's not impossible.
If we're rating manager's performances, then yes Moyes was the worst seeing as how much better his team was.Fair point. IMO though I think the moyes season was worse. Just in terms of going from winning the title to finishing 7th. This season is worse if your going of GD etc. but that still may have us finishing higher than we did in the Moyes season.
Rangnick tried to navigate the United muppet show, failed at that, and was forced to leave. EtH made United an even bigger muppet show considering the power he had and the time he was given to set things right. He is the most damaging manager we have had. post-SAF.Bayern are interested in Ragnick aswell, maybe they respect managers who try to navigate the United muppet show ?
Also need to work out why we get these injuries and deal with whoever is causing these issues, either get rid of injury prone players, the medical team or if it is the training it needs changing otherwise whichever players we bring in will get injured.The only way he can stay is if there is the mother of all clearouts and squad overhauls, because next season will be much of the same shite otherwise.
I still think he's a dead man walking.
Why would Bayern be interested on him though?
Watched the interview. You can tell there's some stuff he can't say for fear of upsetting the dressing room/board.
After doing a good job with their U23 he was rumoured to be in the mix every time they needed a new manager during the last decade. He clearly always stayed on Bayern's radar and that's not surprising considering that history. But also they decided against really going for him every time. Wouldn't surprise me if they talked about him, as they always seem do that, but also would be no surprise if they decide against that option again.Why would Bayern be interested on him though?
Sort of interview I bet his agent pushed to have. Get all the excuses out there for the next employer.
Bayern are interested in Ragnick aswell, maybe they respect managers who try to navigate the United muppet show ?
Why would Bayern be interested on him though?
Rangnick tried to navigate the United muppet show, failed at that, and was forced to leave. EtH made United an even bigger muppet show considering the power he had and the time he was given to set things right. He is the most damaging manager we have had. post-SAF.
At that time when his stock was high. And still they decided either for promising but unproved managers (Nagelsmann), complete unknowns (Flick) or bad managers like Kovac.After doing a good job with their U23 he was rumoured to be in the mix every time they needed a new manager during the last decade. He clearly always stayed on Bayern's radar and that's not surprising considering that history. But also they decided against really going for him every time. Wouldn't surprise me if they talked about him, as they always seem do that, but also would be no surprise if they decide against that option again.
Sort of interview I bet his agent pushed to have. Get all the excuses out there for the next employer.
We should be doing better even with what we have available, that's the top and bottom of it. At different points we've had different injuries, like a lot of teams this season. You talk as though we've had them all at once and for the full season. We were struggling against lower placed teams and even championship teams in the just few weeks whilst only being 2 players away from full strength.
I don't see how it is even surprising, let alone bizarre, to have supporters expecting him to be sacked. For a team of our stature it is a given that the manger normally gets sacked after a session like this. We're just a basket case though, so you don't know what daft decision we'll make next.
Or we got CP on Monday night football and Sky just doing their job?
If anything I would say it may be the Ineos/Gary Neville link which may have pushed for the interview.
Other bits from interview
He joined a club that “needed open heart surgery” as Ragnick put it.
What time has he had to put this right ?
Ronaldo sabotaged him when he walked in the door.
Greenwood , Anthony scandals
Sancho messing
Rashford going off the rails
Savage injuries ON TOP of this drama
And you wonder why things have been so bad ? Maybe things at United are not comparable with other clubs because open surgery required you to rip the heart out.
Conceding 20 shots per game to teams like Luton and Brentford isn't entertainment, it's a disgrace.
We generally look to be on the backfoot and get battered for long periods in every game - it's not entertaining
He can't truly believe it. Just thinks he can pull the wool over everyone with such basic analysis as clean sheets = perfromance was good.Clean sheets doesn't mean we were great, just that our keeper saved a lot of shots and got lucky with poor finishing
Using just a changing back 4 as a reason why a bunch of international footballers are concedeing nearly 30 shots to Newport or whatever is not a a good excuse
Our standards are lower than they were in Moyes season"Next season can’t possibly be as bad" is now the reason to keep him. Like, not only is the bar hilariously low but also these expectations are not based on anything but faith and luck Do we have a lot of gamblers in our fanbase?
I've said this before but it genuinely amazes me that of all fanbases, it's United fans bringing into question how important a manager really is and whether it's possible to judge if he's doing a good job or not.
Why though? Ronaldo has no history of sabotaging managers, even when he had trouble with managers (Mourinho and Santos at the end) he behaved professionally. EtH has the distinguishment to be the only manager ever who couldn't make the top goalscorer in the history of football score. Who then scored loads immediately after leaving.
The Greenwood scandal happened before EtH came, so that was not an unknown. There were rumours that EtH knew about the Anotny scandal, and for what is worth, Antony missed just a month, right?
A complete self-indicted wound.
Yep, players lose form.
Ah, the unprecedented injury crisis where United actually doesn't even make the top 5 of most missed days by injuries this season in EPL.
I am not, I think I've figured out why things have gone this bad.. We have 2 serious problems: a non-existent structure (which is hopefully getting fixed) and a bad manager. We need to fix both if we want to progress.
I believe his original reason for signing Onana and Mount was that they would allow us patterns of play so we didn't have to rely so heavily on Martinez and Shaw.Came till post about this, genuinely think it’s crazy he thinks we can’t have patterns of play because we are missing Martinez/Shaw and makes no mention about how awful we are in attack.
We are only entertaining because we are very bad and extremely open. I don’t think it’s the sort of entertainment people are after.Like I said, the price of trying to play gung-ho football with bang average and incompatible players.
We are lacking in many departments but you can't seriously suggest we lack entertainment value?
The thing about Newcastle, Chelsea or even Brighton for that matter is that when you watch them play, you can see that having better players could lead to them getting much better results and being competitive. You don’t have that feeling with United, it always feels like we are on the verge of a total collapse and lucky to still be getting results way above our performance levels. It’s not something better players will fix because we are set up horribly.I think the problem is that despite all the issues this season, we have been abject. Newcastle have had worse results but they have played far better than we have in general despite that. Chelsea have the same issue they have had for a few seasons. They cannot put the ball in the back of the net.
The xPts chart shows you where you should be if the xG for a game plays out and we should be hovering around relegation instead of top 6. Newcastle and Chelsea should be higher than they are. There are very few teams in the league with as good a delta between "should" and "are" as us in the league. Tottenham, West ham and Villa basically.
I think that if we had shown any real hint of progress in any department this season we wouldn't be discussing EtHs departure. The reason we are is because there has been none. Yes, with a solid back 4 we would have been far better off. Good managers don't go between "should be in a relegation battle" to "should be easily top 4" based on injuries, no matter how bad.
Bayern can hire crap managers and take gambles because, unlike us, they have the brains to sack them when they fail.
We are only entertaining because we are very bad and extremely open. I don’t think it’s the sort of entertainment people are after.
I get Sky sports new in my feed and they are always quoting the back page of the rag, as if it's gospelI genuinely don't know what you're going on about, but I'm guessing quite ironically you are more aware of headlines of the dirt sheet known as The Sun than I am.