Problem is you lot are having to come up with these excuses practically every game. At some stage you just have to admit it's not good enough. If you can't see that it's not good enough then I can't help you, nobody can. The standards are in the gutter, from the club to the fans. Accepting and even excusing this crap is another low point. I'm not saying a 'new low', because I heard all the exact same excuses for the exact same standard of football under Ole.
I struggle to see how you can hang your hopes on us playing better football when martinez and shaw return.I imagine it's because when the defence is settled and able to control games, you can have Mount further up as an attacking 8, along side Bruno, pushing the counter press. However, without that control, you end up with this basket ball like game that we've been seeing plenty of.
I may be wrong but I imagine once the defence is back, our style of play will be very different to what we're doing right now.
Not just two playersYou shouldn't bother. Standards here have been in the toilet for ages now. The managers are guilty of it too.
Our own manager is excusing our lack of control/disjointed performances because of Shaw/Martinez missing. If our entire style goes to shit because of just 2 players missing, then you wonder how competent the coach truly is.
I have no idea how he’s managed to take us so far backwards from where we were last season. We are such an awful side and the gap is growing all the time. New coaches come to the league every year, new players come every year, and those around you continue to improve.
Not just two players
A centre back and left back
That worst team was going head to head with Bayern who also barely beat them by one goal. People need to stop pretending like we should have beat them 5:0 or something (even though we had chances to beat them 3, 4:0), they are not that bad.
Didn't say I was but I suspect the manger is.I struggle to see how you can hang your hopes on us playing better football when martinez and shaw return.
You shouldn't bother. Standards here have been in the toilet for ages now. The managers are guilty of it too.
Our own manager is excusing our lack of control/disjointed performances because of Shaw/Martinez missing. If our entire style goes to shit because of just 2 players missing, then you wonder how competent the coach truly is.
Didn't say I was but I suspect the manger is.
Being loyal to players who consistently deliver bad performances is ten hags biggest flow. Mctominay, Rashford, bruno, Anthony should all have to work their way into the team from the bench over the next few weeks but Ten hag fears and just continues to play them... game in, game out. Ole had the same exact flaw where he continued to stick with Maguire and others rather than bench them. End result will be the same if ten hag doesnt wake up and smell the coffee
2 players missing does not absolve 'shit on a stick' football in every single game.
I have no idea how he’s managed to take us so far backwards from where we were last season. We are such an awful side and the gap is growing all the time. New coaches come to the league every year, new players come every year, and those around you continue to improve.
Shocking signings and an inability to decide how he actually wants to play. His decision to want to try to form a team that plays “the United way” or whatever with quick transitions while also trying to implement his Ajax principles is idiotic. We are stuck with a group of players that don’t really fit together under one style and we are now good at nothing in particular.
Today was the last straw for me if I’m honest. Watching him trot out McT/Bruno/Antony/Rashford etc over and over while we sit in some stagnant shape in possession that hasn’t improved at all was shocking.
No one is accepting anything. But some people have enough common sense to see all the injuries and context around the current situation and are willing to wait when the manager has run of games with actual healthy team. There is no "cult of manager" bullshit, no excuses, I and many are willing to admit it is time to move on from ETH but doing that in current circumstances is silly. You can call everything you don't agree with "excuses" but it wont change the fact that we are missing literally our whole defense, which is one of the most important part in ETH's game.Problem is you lot are having to come up with these excuses practically every game. At some stage you just have to admit it's not good enough. If you can't see that it's not good enough then I can't help you, nobody can. The standards are in the gutter, from the club to the fans. Accepting and even excusing this crap is another low point. I'm not saying a 'new low', because I heard all the exact same excuses for the exact same standard of football under Ole.
Agreed. Clueless faux *********** from what I can see. Concerning that he seems completely oblivious to it too and seems totally convinced that the team is on track, and more often than not, ‘played well’.
2 players missing does not absolve 'shit on a stick' football in every single game.
Knowing our board we will do something idiotic like that.Please for the love of god have a backup plan. I suspect they'll hold out hope for an Arteta style turnaround and, after a drubbing from one of our rivals, give up.
I will lose my shit if we panic sign Conte after this.
Not sure how good of a coach he is or can be but I know for damn sure we're not seeing the best of him at the moment.
My opinion at the moment is he's basically looking to survive matchday-to-matchday because he knows regime change is coming and he's not exactly expensive to get rid of given the length of his current contract. He's basically very short-sighted in the way he's building this team and it's a matter of time until it comes crashing down (could be as early as Sunday).
For me, if he is to have a second chance with new money coming in, we need him and the new director of football to sit down and EtH lays out his plan to get us playing well. He then gives the new guy the profile of player(s) he needs and just gets a list from which to pick.
The signings made under him are underwhelming mostly, except for Casemiro, Eriksen and Martinez. Out of those, only Martinez would be classified as his proper signing, the rest were proven in Europe or in the PL. But they're also old.
Not sure about that.That's no way he should be getting any chance under a new regime.
He has shown he is completely out of his depth, totally stubborn with a serious lack of man management skills at this level.
We are playing worse football every week with no signs of improvements and recent wins have mostly come on efforts of players he's been trying to get rid off
If we have a new regime with new owners, Director of Football then we need a new manager too who can actually make the best of that.
I agree with you2 players missing does not absolve 'shit on a stick' football in every single game.
If players in both teams finished their chances then judging by xG we would have been lucky to get away with a draw, let alone a win.This place can't even join late UCL win. In reality it should've been 3-0 or 3-1 before 70minutes mark had players finished their easy chances but sure let blame manager because that what United supporters do
I would take that if we actually integrate youngsters in the team likes of Mainoo, Mejbri , Gore , Amad to see if they are ready to contribute or not who knows they might surprise us .Not sure about that.
I don't see him getting sacked before the end of the season because most new managers worth their salt want a full summer.
I envision a long goodbye LvG-style, with us finishing 6-8.
