Hopefully that will be the last time you quote someone with little knowledge like me and save your arguments for people with high IQ standards here, like the Ten Hag fans for example.
Erik ten Hag | 2022/23 & 2023/24
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Hopefully that will be the last time you quote someone with little knowledge like me and save your arguments for people with high IQ standards here, like the Ten Hag fans for example.
Was it for Ole and Jose? If Liverpool and Chelsea didn’t have a nightmare last season do we even get top 4?
Whose fault was it to bring Evans back and wasted the budget on players like Mount, Antony? We've not progressed, we've regressed. There's zero style of play and we still rely on individual moments rather than actual team play. That trophy is a mickey mouse trophy most fans don't see as important unless it's to defend ETH. Top 4 is bare minimum for this club. I'm sorry, but there's no excuses.
It's the same routine for every manager for the past decade. Some folk on here would've been stood on the tip of the titanic as it was sinking saying it'll all be fine and calling everyone idiots for panicking
We didn’t play well at all. United lacked control in this game. We had moments but there wasn’t any period of time United had them defending with their lives.
Rashford had few opportunities to play the perfect pass inwards but he ruined it trying to dribble 3 defenders at a time. Højlund gave us a bit of a target man when he came on, he was refreshing but it was a little bit too late.
Ten Hag’s philosophy in big away games is worrying and equally questionable. He does not have the tactical nous or the game intelligence to win these games. Having Bruno/Eriksen together away from home is a recipe for disaster. They are useless defensively.
This has been answered a few times. The answer is yes. No team that has gotten that number of points as us has missed out on top 4.
In a season when Liverpool and Chelsea had awful seasons, newcastle almost bottling it, and we still nearly finished outside the top 4...yeah. Ole also finished 3rd, but even then people wanted him out.
Ole didn't win a trophy. And you can't use hypotheticals to deny progress. I could say "if Arsenal and City didn't have worldie seasons we could've won the league"
What a joke comment. Typical of the modern fan. We had a bad result, even though we actually played well? Sack the coach - next shiny toy please.100% agree.
other than threaten him, there is no way to made him to leave.
can try throwing him into the reserve or youth team.
He already changed the style.
Brother, go find me a premier league season when a team gets 75 points and doesn't get top 4
One of the worst posts I have seen on this forum.
It's not one bad result, we've been playing like shit since the cup final. The players have gone i to the season unprepared and unfit playing crap football and suicidal tactics. This is all on ETH.
Some people on here are as thick as two short planks. Absolutely zero ability to think criticially whatsoever. None.
Moaning about ten Hag saying that Martial played "Very well"......... Think about what question he was asked to answer. Please, for the love of God, just use your neurons?
The Martial comment was made right on the back of the question, "Did Hojlund change the game when he came on?". It's quite obvious that ten Hag couldn't have just said that Hojlund was a lot better than Martial was, so, ten Hag praised Hojlund and then gave Martial credit too so as to not draw criticisms when comparing them both.
He's protecting Martial, which is fine. A manager does that. If he has a problem with the performance of the individual it'll happen in the changing room.
Moaning about ten Hag saying that Martial played "Very well"......... Think about what question he was asked to answer. Please, for the love of God, just use your neurons?
The Martial comment was made right on the back of the question, "Did Hojlund change the game when he came on?". It's quite obvious that ten Hag couldn't have just said that Hojlund was a lot better than Martial was, so, ten Hag praised Hojlund and then gave Martial credit too so as to not draw criticisms when comparing them both.
He's protecting Martial, which is fine. A manager does that. If he has a problem with the performance of the individual it'll happen in the changing room.
Signing a CB would have put pressure on him
Who cares about 75 points? It was netter than Ole, wow. Not as good Arsenal or City. Not even better than Jose.
Ah yeah, incompetence, not injuries, right?
People didn’t want ETH out. Wonder why.
Geez, you'd think we played like Klopps Liverpool and lost 5-4
Yeah. He needs to fix this promptly
Delusion.
Yes, this is our first bad result and everything has been great up until now. How can silly people ask these silly questions?I'm stunned that we agree on something.
These people are either lying or deluding themselves.
We got 75 points. When did 75 points not finish top 4? Plus you could add that if it was in doubt, we'd have prioritized it more and put less focus on cups. As it is, we were fine in the league so were able to push more for cups.
Dumb fecking argument.
Everything I have seen so far suggest that we will struggle to finish top 5 this season. Still early days but I see absolutely no progress since last season expect for Höjlund's promising cameo today. Casemiro is in rapid decline and Antony is very limited in the final 3rd. Of course ETH will not be sacked soon but I doubt he will survive missing out on CL.
Edit: watched Brighton yesterday and they are on another level. De Zerbi seems good...
I hate when people say stuff like sack him etc because it derails the thread completely. There are aspects about today which it would be nice to discuss but now the whole conversation will be about how silly it is to talk about sacking him
It negates your point of Chelsea and Liverpools terrible season effecting our top 4 finish.
I think a lot of us forget the mess that Ole left us in.
We were so open Arsenal had 1 shot on target in the first half and didn’t create much else up until the 80th minute of the game
Yes he needs a board that cane give him DOF and players that are competent and can cut it in todays top football field and fight for the Premier League & Champions League titles every season.
Don't have money to sign a CB to replace somebody who refused to leave.
Ten Hag made Maguire 5th choice CB. And stripped him of captaincy. And accepted west hams bid. That's about all you can do.
How does two big teams having stinkers not affect our position? Even then, Liverpool recovered and got close to beating us to top 4.
He has called out Antony and he has been dropped for Bruno at RW more than once
Could have signed one on loan, could have signed Bella Kachop for 8m from Southampton. The club needed to help the manager here.
When did he call out Antony?
When? And to what?
The season is 4 games in
A few times last season. And even at the start of this
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