Yep that's exactly it. I'd actually rather keep Eth even if it means a shit season and try and get the background stuff right at the club. I also think the sale and the greenwood situation are not helping things and are a massive distraction.
Erik ten Hag | 2022/23 & 2023/24
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Yeah, that was worries me the most. It looks like they dont give a feck
Not sure where we go from here to improve things. Other than throwing 100 mil at getting another midfielder and attacker
I don't understand why he decided to change system for the season. Feels like we're throwing away whatever we built last season and are starting from scratch again.
There is effort. In the 1st half we could have scored 3 the problem is we are set up in a way that spurs themselves could have scored 3 in the 1st. We have somehow got worse at keeping the ball whilst also pushing everyone forward.
Buy Maddison and you have to sell Bruno, which honestly probably needs to be worked towards this season.
Anyway, in order to save the season, the first step is to accept our mistake, swallow our pride and drop Mount.
I even think Scott alongside Casemiro will give us more balance than this in games like today, and in easier games we can play like last season with Eriksen alongside Bruno and Casemiro.
Mount has no business to do at United. The faster we acknowledge this and accept our mistake, the better for our season.
I even think Scott alongside Casemiro will give us more balance than this in games like today, and in easier games we can play like last season with Eriksen alongside Bruno and Casemiro.
Mount has no business to do at United. The faster we acknowledge this and accept our mistake, the better for our season.
Fans overreact all the time. However using that as an excuse to try and paint all genuine concerns with the same brush is stupid at best. Eth did well last season and he has some leeway partially because of that and partially because of how low we were when he joined us. That does not mean he is immune from being questioned or doubted. Currently we are far closer to how we were under Ole than where we want to be.
Better than wasting time. The only hope is we play the manager merry-go round till we get lucky and get the next Guardiola or Klopp.
I'm just tired of watching dogshit football.
Yep it is, but I think for the moment it's the best gamble.
People don't like to hear it but no we're not. We've have no style, patterns of play, ball retention etc that were the main criticisms.
Im sure BaldErik has a cunning plan to sort it out. Hopefully it involves finding a finisher and never playing Marcus CF and Bruno on the right ever again.
It doesn't matter, the washed player had to go. The point is the all-time top scorer of this game understood he can't extend his records under ETH's team. There's a huge problem with how he uses his forwards, I don't think he can manage Hojlund or any other #9s.
Example Casemiro! It’s a shame. Only one word: unprofessional
They're likely seeing what we're seeing. Hard to buy into it when you see Casemiro getting exposed and ran past for the tenth time. Or Antony/Garnacho do nothing with the ball again and again.
The opportunity cost of signing Mount is mounting. We could have brought in a CM/DM and CB with that stupid fee, and gone in for him next season.
been the case under 4 different managers, different personnel as well. If ETH is THE guy he has not been able to coach anything different than Moyes, LVG, Mourinho, Ole.
To me he's on thin ice this season. Unless he is able to show that he can improve a pretty decent squad (holes but still pretty decent) we should look to move on.
Ten hag still has time to salvage things, in particular if he doesn't insist on this nonsensical midfield set up of his but yeah the signs are worrying.
We're seemingly on path to yo yo between the midtable and the top 4 again, maybe the financial losses resulting from missing Europe will be enough to kick them out but I doubt it.
You want to bring Rangnick back? I wasn’t expecting that.
400 million and we can’t pass a ball
Eth doesn’t look world class at all
Eth doesn’t look world class at all
There's no more money. The chest is empty.
I wouldn't want Ten Hag spending anymore anyway
When will people start to realise there is obviously something wrong beyond who the manager is when like 6 managers have failed despite us spending a shitload of money?
The morons at the top have backed this manager well.
If that makes them morons then he's not the top manager many thought.
Can’t rely on starting 11 either by looks of it so we’re screwed…
Starting to worry. I question his tactics, his subs, and his signings. He's spent well over 100m on complete shite. Our style of play, if we even have one, is pathetic. Rashford's purple patch covered him a lot last year. If that doesn't come again, he's in trouble.
I think fundamentally that if pep had the same players he would be getting more out of them. We absolutely shit our pants after spurs scored the first - really we should have calmed down and tried to pass our way back into the game, but instead resorted to kicking it long.
you could say that about every single manager we've had since SAF though, surely we need to give him chance!
Exactly. Why wasn’t this so clear to EtH? What the feck was his thinking behind chasing Mount for so long. Caicedo was there. We had so much time to chase him.
Not sure what he or his coaching staff are doing in training. We look inferior to opposition in every way - physicality, fitness, possession, passing, finishing, defending. It’s ridiculous
Yes we have terrible owners and this sale is probably also affecting the players and coaching staff but there's no getting away from the fact that Ten Hag has spent a fortune since he arrived and we are still nowhere near good enough.
So he bought Onana. Good.
Bought Rasmus. Injured but that's not him. Let's see how that turns out.
Bought Mount. Surely he has an idea how he wants us to play, just needs time to make it happen.
Also, it's not on him to instruct every single thing our often brainless players do.
Bought Rasmus. Injured but that's not him. Let's see how that turns out.
Bought Mount. Surely he has an idea how he wants us to play, just needs time to make it happen.
Also, it's not on him to instruct every single thing our often brainless players do.
Moyes like. Even Poch has a better record.
I'm glad I'm not the one to make the call. I don't want to pull the trigger this early as it does feel incredibly jerky, but like last season, we need a turn around and quick.
New owners like Qatari will most probably sack Ten Hag if he doesn't achieve fast success.
Don't forget he spent months going after FDJ who we all knew didn't want to come here. He's in love with certain players and refuses to get off them. It's pathetic.
Is his record that bad though?
Varan, Martinez, Casemiro and Onana are all good signings if you ask me.
The less said about Anthony the better.
Far too early to judge Mount and Hojland. Can’t say Mount isn’t worrying though.
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