I agree it's newer, that was just a bad photo to compare. It's definitely not 40 overs agreed, I'd estimate around 25-30 so it's getting towards 40 now.
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I agree it's newer, that was just a bad photo to compare. It's definitely not 40 overs agreed, I'd estimate around 25-30 so it's getting towards 40 now.
Jimmy really just has been surprisingly bad
My guess would be more around 15 may be 20 at a stretch. Even the lacquer's not completely off on that ball
It’s gonna be a tight one isn’t it
It's a lot newer. Look at the difference its made this morning compared to yesterday...it's actually given England a chance of winning the test.
Yeah I would have Australia as favourites as I don't think England have much besides Woakes and Wood
You can't attribute it all to the ball.
How has he been this bad, everyone else is basically doing whatever they want with it while he is bowling like he still has the old one to bowl with.
All 3 dismissals this morning have come from some movement. Woakes bowled exceptionally well with it.
That's come after rain overnight, overcast conditions and moisture in the air. The conditions have changed too and are perfect for it moving unlike yesterday. It's obviously not just the ball unless we're saying only new balls move in the air and ignoring that the ball moves in England in these conditions regardless of the ball age?
It's a combination of various factors, but I'd say the ball age is probably the significant one for today. But obviously, you can have a ball that does wonders but you still need to put it in the right places, and Woakes did that with his dismissals.
Where is Tongue? Would've given Head a hard time
England need to break this partnership before lunch
Aussies cakewalking this
Broad's been unlucky not to get a wicket today
Think we’ve lost this one!
Worried now ?
someone get the balls out again!! time for a new one 
That batting collapse has cost the game 60 odd for 6 I think it was. Can't imagine England pulling this back
Any moaning from Aussies about the ball the umpires gave England won't match the moaning from many English folk about the Bairstow stumping at Lord's.
Hasn’t helped, but if you can’t defend 400 in a fourth innings, it doesn’t say much about the bowling. Looks like it’s a innings too far for this attack.
Defo! Aussies Favs from here but plenty can happen. Going to miss the next two hours annoyingly.
See you all on the other side.
Yep. England would have declared at 400 anyway even without the slogging.
It's was a 4th innings starting on day 4 though. Why is everyone discounting that? We've batted that quickly it started as a 3rd innings pitch.
This is why England batted on in the last test as well
That's a drop
They would have batted through to lunch and could have been 450 plus ahead with recognised batters
This is going to be controversial 
Clear drop by the rules isn't it he even knew himselfThis is going to be controversial
What a horrible drop and a desperate review.
Need this pair out before it gets down to 130. Otherwise, it's over.
Would love to have seen the reaction in here had that been Bairstow
Stokes has dropped a tied series… could be worse
HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAH
That's a terrible drop by Stokes. Really poor in the context of the match and series.
Why the feck would you throw away the ball, that is a level of dumb I have never seen in any game
Can't remember seeing anything like that before.
Sums up this series really. Some truly baffling costly moments.
Stokes will be slaughtered for it and rightly so. Awful mistake. Brilliant catch to begin with.Would love to have seen the reaction in here had that been Bairstow
Bazballing catches. Catches in test cricket always take too long.
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