Ramsdale hasn't had regular playing minutes for a long time now. My point was always that Pickford should've been phased out a long time ago for a technical goalkeeper. That point still stands and this goal doesn't really prove anything IMO.
England Euro 2024 Squad and Discussion
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Jamie (@Vault Dweller) are here to talk about United's dreadful home defeat at the hands of Big Ange's Tottenham Hotspur. Should this have been the end of Ten Hag? How long does he actually have left? And does Nik finally want ETH out?!
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Ramsdale hasn't had regular playing minutes for a long time now. My point was always that Pickford should've been phased out a long time ago for a technical goalkeeper. That point still stands and this goal doesn't really prove anything IMO.
Would it be bad to want us to get knocked out of the euros early so INEOS might change their minds on him or would it be the complete opposite and he’d be available if we went out early.
You're either missing my point or have no idea what you're talking about if you're implying Foden is big a transitional threat.
Is it home yet??
That worked because of the 5 at the back not the 4 at the back. In the Euros we lost on pens we played a 5 at the back. Maguire, Walker, Stones CBs, Trippier on the right and Shaw on the left. Maguire is a liability with 4 at the back. We also didn't have the attacking talent back then that we have now (with Palmer, Gordon, Eze, Bowen). We had a choice of Sterling, Rashford, Grealish and Saka. 3 of those players now can't even make this team and we've added more depth and danger in those areas.
We also have better ball playing midfielders now with that bum Phillips nowhere near the team and the additions of Bellingham/Gallagher/Mainoo/Wharton. We have the perfect team for a dominant 4-3-3, we have the best full back in the world at cleaning up opposition counters (Walker). Just because the manager can't find the right balance or know how to coach a dominant style and position the players properly doesn't mean we can't do it.
I also disagree with playing Foden centrally, there's a reason Pep plays him mainly on the wings (unless City have injury problems). He always looks terrible for England when he's number 10 and should either play wide or not at all.
At the end of the day the majority of our best players are in attack and finding a formation to limit that threat is ridiculous. We need to get rid of Southgate and find a manager that can coach a dominant 4-3-3.
We replay the FA Cup final tomorrow.
Would you want Rashford playing or Gordon/Bowen?
Favourites by who? Except attacking talent on paper there are lot of issues in the team. No goalkeeper. Poor defenders looking at defensive side. No leaders except Kane. No central midfield that is good enough at this level yet.
Errrm - the attacking talent back then is ten times better than the players you mentioned.
Damien Delaney former Crystal Palace player said he'd ignore tonight and still sees Euro 2024 as England's competition to lose.
That's the spirit!
I really hate this point of view (nothing personal of course). Good teams win football matches. Also, winning football matches is actually really important.
You have a perfect team for a dominant 4-3-3 when players are available but they're not. Without Maguire and Shaw the defence drops dramatically and it's not capable of that 4-3-3 to that high level in my opinion.
Trippier at LB is utterly shite.
I agree as a rule, but I do think there are times when an Intl manager flex’s a bit. Given Kane is a gimme, could have taken one of Watkins/Toney (former for me) and taken Rashford who can play wide like Gordon and cover 9 if needed. Or leave Bowen.
You can check my posts, I’ve not been positive about Rashford this season at all, but he does offer something when his good games come around, can cover the two positions and has tournament/international experience (which does count for something).
(No Branthwaite is another odd decision for me, given the CHs he has taken)
All the wide players want to come infield and play in the same pockets; and there isn’t a left back.
Itll never happen but the most balance he can put out with what he’s selected is a 3/5/2. The 4231 just gets everything congested.
Itll never happen but the most balance he can put out with what he’s selected is a 3/5/2. The 4231 just gets everything congested.
Pickford
Walker - Stones - Guehi
Trent - Mainoo - Rice - Saka
Bellingham
Kane - Watkins
Walker - Stones - Guehi
Trent - Mainoo - Rice - Saka
Bellingham
Kane - Watkins
We’ve mostly done that under Southgate to be fair.
A new player, i.e. we should be aiming for much better than him because he's had a terrible season. Just like England should be playing plyers other than Rashford because he had a terrible season. One final is not enough to pick a player, form is accrued over games plural, not game singular.
You can tell it was instructions. Mainoo with us always makes those runs into the box, it seems he had the instruction today of just standing in between their 3 midfielders and not risking the run into the box. He payed completely different today to how he would with us.
Okay - so your argument is Arambat isn’t a starter because we can magic up a new player. Fair enough.
Is this wuminator with a secondary account?
I can’t fathom how some can’t grasp the fact that 2 years is a tremendously long time in football. Saying MR was englands best player 2 years ago…counts for absolute nothing where we are today.
Judging by wiminators parameters we should also take Welbeck instead of Kane. He has more trophies so that must mean he’s more capable.
Aye. I've no problem with him as england manager tbf. Stylistically not my cup of tea but his tournament record is really good. Especially compared to where we were when he took over.
Shaw will be back in the group stages and I do believe that Guehi is good enough but I do get your concern. The safe option would be to do what you said but why the hell would he bring so many attacking players to then play 5 at the back...
Great post. really logical points.
Imagine if waistcoat is managing him/us week in, week out?
Because he isn't a good coach and doesn't understand how to resolve problems quickly enough.
I think Guehi is okay but it's a drop off and he's rusty. Also Trippier at LB is just shite.
I think if we got Southgate It would be the first season in my lifetime I'd check out of without a ball being kicked....Imagine if waistcoat is managing him/us week in, week out?
Well we won't be able to play Iceland, so I'm sure it will be fine.Imagine if waistcoat is managing him/us week in, week out?
Why the feck do you keep linking us with Southgate you weirdos.
Stop believing everything you read with football rumours. That is not going to happen.
Stop believing everything you read with football rumours. That is not going to happen.
With so many changes and little to no playing time with each other I don't see England getting as far this time. Hopefully they can surprise and the manager finds a few good formations and player combinations. Currently it looks very difficult to get a good team balance.
A month or two ago I was expecting a more settled team.
A month or two ago I was expecting a more settled team.
INEOS might not be the greatest thing since sliced bread, but they have to be smart enough to know the uproar this would cause. Talk about starting off on the wrong foot. No way this happens.
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Anyway to get back to the point on how we'd do this Euros. We'll do enough to get to the first top team and then lose. Could be the ro16 or the final, depends on the luck of the draw. Pretty much like every tournament in my lifetime.
Yep. Away, from the southgate issue, we need to finally crack how to produce good enough players to actually win a trophy. Because we've been going around in cricles with decades.
He plays on the wing because he isn't good enough to play centrally for City. Will be funny when they get someone like Musiala or Wirtz after raving for years about how Foden will eventually stay in the middle.
Unfortunately for him, Saka is a better right winger than him as well. And it's obvious that he's not ideal on the left. You need a fast powerful runner on the left if you have Kane and Saka as the other two forwards. Foden is none of those.
It's unlucky for him but Foden should be the first player off the bench, none of this "best English player" and "first name on the team sheet" nonsense.
That's not been the case for the last ten years?
Hence why I said. Like every tournament in my lifetime.
Not just the last 10 years mate. Since 94. Well when we qualify for the tournament.
Very silly post.
The teams in the group stage will be more difficult than Iceland. It will be interesting to see what his first choice 11 is for the first game. I still can’t see us beating the best teams sadly eg France. Southgate is out of his depth when it comes to in game tactics.
No my argument is that he shouldn't be a starter next season due to one game, i.e. we should be looking to replace him. Maguire was one of our best CBs this season, should we be going into next season with him as our number one choice, no. It's a really simple idea and you're being wilfully obtuse. Your view of rewarding mediocrity is exactly why we have stagnated as a club.
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