Wharton and Mainoo’s rise has been pretty crazy. Wonder how much the former will be worth after this tournament.
England Euro 2024 Squad and Discussion
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Jamie (@Vault Dweller) are here to talk about United's dreadful home defeat at the hands of Big Ange's Tottenham Hotspur. Should this have been the end of Ten Hag? How long does he actually have left? And does Nik finally want ETH out?!
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Glad Wharton has gone but I can see him becoming a mainstay and unfortunately at the expense of Kobbie.
He hasn't complained. He didn't deem them better than those he took and frankly. I agree with him
Southgate actually making necessary decisions is a bit surprising.
There should be nothing like "at the expense of". International football involves loads of rotation. Expect those two and Rice to be regulars in whatever combo.
Counter attacks are not the same as transitions.
And he hasn’t played much in the last year. You’re making a real mountain out of a molehill on this one
It not stupid if you consider in tournaments attackers are more likely to get injured, are easier to rotate and give you the biggest chance of advancing in each round as options off your bench.
Counter attacking based teams literally play transition football.
Only disagreement I have is Branthwaite not going, think he had a strongest season out of all the center backs.
Gallagher will start ahead of Mainoo and Wharton.
Nah, I can't imagine an England first XI without Mainoo. A bigger question is Trent, I think.
If Shaw is not fit enough, who is playing left back?
Trippier, with Gomez as third choice I imagine
Isn't Wharton more of a DM (so a backup to Rice in this squad?). If I were to build a 3 it's DM (Rice / Wharton) + #8 (Mainoo / Gallagher) + #10 (Bellingham / Eze). The Trent in midfield thing needs to end and he needs to go play RB.
Branthwaite should be in instead of Toney or Watkins.
Dunk over Branthwaite or Quansah is a joke 
.......even Tomori or Dier would be better options.
.......even Tomori or Dier would be better options.Only France and Netherlands have a good defence......all other nations are struggling in these positions too.
Why have we got no LW? Was trying to think of the top of my head whilst at work what wide players we had. I thought if Saka. Grealish and Rashford obvs but Rashford ain’t going.
Which is strange considering the Italians are basically all defence. They base their play on defence first.
I'm assuming he's only picked Toney for one reason only - in case we're drawing in the last minute of extra time. I suppose that worked out well last time out.
You're forgetting Ireland who have Coleman, Duffy, John O'Shea and Doherty.
Wharton will probably fade away in a few years anyway. Happens all the time with young English players from the lower PL teams.
Portugal's options are pretty good.
RB: Dalot/Semedo
LB: N.Mendes/Cancelo
CB: A.Silva/Dias/Inacio/Pepe (who's still really good, somehow, at 41)
City will sign him for 80-90m and he'll play 20 minutes every three games.
How likely is Shaw to play? Would make a big difference to have him not just fit but in form.
I’d struggle to be convinced England are going to win the Euros if they have Conor Gallagher starting every game.
I’d struggle to be convinced England are going to win the Euros if they have Conor Gallagher starting every game.
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Think the left side of attack lacks threat, it's not Eze's natural position but he is excellent and I view Gordon being standoffish under the pressure of the tournament.
Bellingham should realistically be deployed as an 8 as opposed to a forward, I think the midfield is more balanced and has composure if he's in it.
Defence doesn't look great I think Brainthwaite and Tomori offer more. Strange Tomori doesn't get a look-in for a team that finished second in their domestic league. If he was playing in England for a top eight I reckon he goes.
Bellingham should realistically be deployed as an 8 as opposed to a forward, I think the midfield is more balanced and has composure if he's in it.
Defence doesn't look great I think Brainthwaite and Tomori offer more. Strange Tomori doesn't get a look-in for a team that finished second in their domestic league. If he was playing in England for a top eight I reckon he goes.
Yeah their CB's are pretty good.
The full-backs are nothing special.....Dalot is fine but far away from world-class........Semedo is average.......Mendes is a good talent but he had a massive injury this season..........and Cancelo is sometimes pretty good and sometimes a League Two player.
Ah, yes, he's played him there before. Do England not have one decent left back besides Shaw?
Wharton + Kobbie can play together. He’ll be like Rice was at West Ham in 3 years time - £100m player coveted by everyone.
Fair play to Southgate, he's made a lot of big and correct calls with that squad
Gordon the diving Scouse twat has had an incredible season tbh.
He can be slow getting there but I think he does eventually get it right with a lot of his choices
Ye forgot about him. Still think we’re very light with wide players. We have a lot more central players. A couple who can play wide like Foden and Palmer.
This will probably be his last tournament. So better late than never. We’ve had quite a lot of young players come through this year though tbh
No Maddison, Grealish or Rashford is a massive call from Southgate this time around.
Let’s see how it goes. Great first 11 I think, though I’m not 100% convinced by our strength in depth.
Let’s see how it goes. Great first 11 I think, though I’m not 100% convinced by our strength in depth.
Dunk over Branthwaite or Quansah is a joke
Totally agreed. I was shocked, not an England fan but Dunk is a very good player but not international level.
They definitely can. But Rice and Bellingham are immovable, so it's those 2 plus 1.
I agree. I'm not a fan of Dunk (or Branthwaite from what little I have seen) but I kinda get wanting an older player in there.
Some pretty surprising (and good) decisions for me, leaving out some big names and picking Eze and Wharton.
Somebody should have got Southgate a subscription to Serie A though, Loftus-Cheek was playing really well last season and didn't get a chance and I think Tomori is better than almost all the CBs in the squad.
Not all the time. Henderson, Lampard, Carrick, Rio, Rooney all played for teams that typically aren't challenging each season. Admittedly, they then furthered their England careers at top clubs, but there's no reason that this can't apply to Wharton.
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