I don't think so. Kobbie was the first player mentioned in Southgate's first interview last week... it would be a hugely controversial call from Gareth to leave him out at this stage
England Euro 2024 Squad and Discussion
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Jamie (@Vault Dweller) are here to talk about United's dreadful home defeat at the hands of Big Ange's Tottenham Hotspur. Should this have been the end of Ten Hag? How long does he actually have left? And does Nik finally want ETH out?!
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Our scouts have reccomended to the clowns in our football recrutinent deparment players like Jesus, Gavardiola, Enzo Fernandez, Alvarez all before they hit the big time to end to else where. All ignored. They also said Antony was worth 25m. The dunces in the front office paid 4 times that....I could go on for days
I see better wherr you are coming from.
To be fair: Rice shouldn't be needed to dictate from deep when his literally the best in the ranks at protecting and shielding the back 4 to recycle the ball from there. It should be his partners that have that job. That is why he and Phillips worked well. That is why he and a natural deep lying play dictator like Wharton, Mainoo or TAA will surely work.
England's prior problem was they had no other deep lying passers in the ranks. Plus No cover for Rice as a protecter if Phillips started alongside hin. Now Southgate actually has viable options. If Gareth is smart he doesn't keep trying to shoe horn box to box ball winners like Gallagher in Or like the press/fandom want attacking midfield playmakers like Bellingham or Foden into that role.
He must go with Wharton, Mainoo and TAA. as the guys to play with and cover Rice.
I 100% agree
At that moment when Ten Hag stock was still high, he demanded Antony, his favourite player or a way to pay off his old club, at all cost so the management had to satisfy. I fully support INEOS's strategy of not letting manager to dictate our transfer, similarly to the most successful club in the world Real Madrid. At least only until we find a manager that can prove himself worthy through 4-5 seasons with success in player management.
The entire hulabaloo about Antony is his price. Which is entirely on the football department. Those fools who would buy a tiny bag of everyday peanuts at £1000
I doubt it. TAA out performed him comfortable yesterday.
In midfield he didn't.
His best period of the game was when he was moved back to RB.
Me neither, that's why I think Mainoo could be so important, England doesn't create many players that can do what he does.
What exactly do other clubs, including Palace pay their scouts for if not to find players like Garnacho?
What exactly does City pay their scouts for if not to find players like Mainoo?
You can’t sign them all.
Interesting to see how it goes. With the expanded 26-man squad, he should have 15 spots to divvy up to the midfielders and attackers and he can accommodate more options in my view. And Gordon, Eze and Grealish all offer something different. I'd be inclined to take all of them - Gordon if England need to sit deep to contain and counter; Eze for his strength and 1v1 ability; Grealish for ball retention and winning free-kicks.
For me he had a much better second half regardless of role. Gallagher to me looked lost all game till he was taken off
I would take trent as a more attacking right back option off the bench but cant imagine him starting in midfield against a decent team
Gallagher looked pretty much the same as he does in every England game but Gareth likes him
His play during the season has earned him a chance to audition for a place. I can't knock Southgate for giving him a fair chance. I'll strictly knock him if he makes the squad ahead of either Warton and/or Mainoo
Fair enough. I disagree. Gallagher had a decent game. Did a lot of the grunt work in that midfield that Trent wasn’t doing and he was passing it well enough too (not as well as Trent or Wharton when he came on, but decent). For some reason Southgate plays him as the deepest lying midfielder which doesn’t suit him at all.
My prediction the 6 players left out of the final squad, beside 1 GK:
1. Dunk
2. Guehi
3. Watkins
4. Quansah
5. Mainoo
6. Gordon
The main reason for GS to leave Mainoo out is as good as our Mainoo is, he lacks defensive capa compared to the rest of the choice while GS is a defensive-minded manager. He would likely prefer to have 2 proper DMs to sit tight in the midfield rather than a DM + a box to box player like Mainoo. Plus he also has Foden and Palmer to play alongside Bellingham if he needs more attack. I also feel that somehow Shaw might make it in time, even if he is not 100% fit, he is still one of best left back in the world and GS has noone else. Trippier is far away from being good enough.
1. Dunk
2. Guehi
3. Watkins
4. Quansah
5. Mainoo
6. Gordon
The main reason for GS to leave Mainoo out is as good as our Mainoo is, he lacks defensive capa compared to the rest of the choice while GS is a defensive-minded manager. He would likely prefer to have 2 proper DMs to sit tight in the midfield rather than a DM + a box to box player like Mainoo. Plus he also has Foden and Palmer to play alongside Bellingham if he needs more attack. I also feel that somehow Shaw might make it in time, even if he is not 100% fit, he is still one of best left back in the world and GS has noone else. Trippier is far away from being good enough.
Southgate would be a fecking idiot to leave Mainoo out.
He would, but selfishly hope he does leave him out. Kid can rest and continue his form for us next season. I don’t really care much for how England do. The Beckham hate in 98 still remains unforgivable
I don't think GS will use him that much anyway if he gets picked. The experience being in Euro and training with top players will be invaluable to his development.
Seeing Trent, Gallagher and Wharton performed in that match, it is difficult to see Mainoo be picked ahead of them. Unless GS sacrifices more of his good wing forwards, then he can keep all of the CMs.
Trent was poor until he was moved to RB.
Mainoo was motm on his debut and his last game (fa cup final)
Not a chnace he doesn't go, he'll be starting later in the tournament.
Also I'd not only take Eze I'd start him, he's unplayable.
Mainoo is better than all of them.
He is all fans' favourite, not just United fans. He also tends to perform well and score in big cup matches, that may be taken into account. Curtis Jones and Maddison might be the casulty if both Gordon and Mainoo is picked.
I don't care if he will be played or not, if he gets to stay and train with England top players throughout Euro that would be huge for his experience and motivation.
He'll play, he's fecking mint.
Makes sense to be fair. Foden and Bellingham both ahead of him and it's tough to even discount Eze on form.
Reckon other 6 will be Trafford, Dunk, Quansah, Jones, Bowen and Watkins. Would like to see Toney and him both go, however with all those wide forwards I just can't see that happening.
No he didn't. He was always very clearly part of the front 3. He took up deeper positions because the team often sat deep. Defensively he'd either sit in front of 2 midfielders, or drift wide to form a bank of 4. He always had 7 players behind him at all times
Toney going over Watkins would be scandalous.
Talk sport going mental over the Madison decision, they just can't understand it 
Completely ignoring the fact that he's been below average since his return from injury.
Completely ignoring the fact that he's been below average since his return from injury.
Seems a bit harsh that it's been leaked before the other omissions though, like you've been so wank we're not even giving you the final warm up game to have another chance. Southgate always seemed to have a bit of a vendetta against Maddison initially but thought he was over that. I'm not disagreeing with him not going to be fair, he was never going to be a starter and after the 2nd half of the season form Eze is much more worthy of a place and a more exciting player, just thought it seems harsh!
Think that Eze performance swung it. He probably had a slim chance making it prior to that but after Eze played well and looked comfortable it made it an easy choice to drop him.
Feel for him a little as if Euros in Jan he would have made it but he didn't perform well in the latter stage of the season and he plays in an area where England are stacked.
Childish.
Yeah it was always likely he would be cut. Really tailed off in the second half of the season.
I get the feeling he walked after being told he wasn't gonna be in the squad, which is why this is the only one to have leaked.
That man's ego is hilarious. Maddison is nowhere near good enough to throw a strop and leave the squad early after being rightfully dropped.
Agree his form has not been great towards end of season, Rashford will have been as disappointed as he had never let England down, but must have known his form this season put his spot in the squad in jeopardy. He dealt with it in a much more dignified manner. As others have said Maddison likely thinks Southgate has never rated him anyway.
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