I love this England squad I love the togetherness about it . I also love the fact black and mixed race players are the shinning lights has a grandfather of a mixed race child I know there is still a lot of prejudice in this world and it’s good to have someone that looks like you to look up to.
England Euro 2024 Squad and Discussion
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Well, I have to say not surprised in the least that the FA want him to stay. In fact, I predicted it! However, it's not all doom and gloom and I still have hope as I'm pretty sure he wants to leave.
There's a lot of people in Spain that are unhappy about having black players in their team. It reminds me of the dark days of the 70s but also how far we've come.
You won't be saying that after they get embarrassed on Sunday. It's a waste of time with southgate in charge.
I would imagine he's had enough but if England won would he really not want to lead the champions of Europe into the next world cup?
England's success eh? A blessing and a curse 
Has any Englishmen ever visited the pie and bovril forum? Reading it during an international tournament is a truly cathartic experience, i've been reading it since 2018 every time an international tournament comes around, admittedly it's never quite reached the peak levels of when we got to that first semi in a couple of decades, but it's still pretty entertaining. It's genuinely on bluemoon levels of tinpot, it's borderline satire and they don't realise how diddy they sound. Some of it is genuinely funny and whilst it's their true feelings it has an element of tongue in cheek but then you get crackers like this..
"I honestly, by several orders of magnitude, care much more about England losing this than I ever have about any Scotland game."
It's like being hated by someone you don't even realise exists..
"I honestly, by several orders of magnitude, care much more about England losing this than I ever have about any Scotland game."
It's like being hated by someone you don't even realise exists..
fecking hell. Now that is miserable.
I think we'll lose on Sunday by the way but if you can't get excited making the final then when can you? Are you only allowed to be happy when you win the trophy?
Why are you making it about race?
From a black England fans perspective, it makes a difference. I know plenty of fans who are black and British that have a disconnect towards the England national team due to the culture of fans, treatment of black players in the media and historically, a lack of representation in the squad. There's a bigger black presence within the squad which many will view fondly and see that as relatability factor to being drawn towards the team/players.
I can relate to this. It's also down to the fact that people don't see black people as English no matter how long our families have been in the country, plus the general treatment day to day. I love the "Why are you making it all about race?" triggered comments. In Europe, people think that ignoring racism and race directly somehow solves racism when it only keeps it alive.
"The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was to convince the world he didn't exist."
It's southgate. I expect us to get rinsed 4-0 and the final to be an embarrassing experience. At the end of it, I think we'll be wishing we were knocked out in the semi. I thought the Euro 2021 final was an embarrassment and this could be even worse!
fecking hell. Now that is miserable.
I think we'll lose on Sunday by the way but if you can't get excited making the final then when can you? Are you only allowed to be happy when you win the trophy?
And that's not the first time either. He made the same comments regarding France, hoping that a black player scores and claiming that their teams sports suck without blacks. He sounds more like someone who wants to see black players on top, rather than someone who's happy to see players of different races play football together.
The only success England have had was in 1966.England's success eh? A blessing and a curse
My god , how do you cope being an Everton fan with that mentality.
Must be hell! Do you just never enjoy football?
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I don't watch club football, any more. Not for me.
You need an intervention
I don't know what to tell you then.
You don't watch club football and you don't enjoy England making it through the tournament into the final because you think we'll lose the final.
It sounds like football just isn't for you anymore, don't know what you get out of watching.
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I was hoping for a bit of hope/joy at watching England play. But I've got neither with him in charge. He embarrassed himself in the last euro final and I suspect a heavy beating is coming our way in this one. If I thought they could actually win I would be excited to watch. Can't even be arsed watching. WIll probably just follow on this forum.
I do think england are producing some good technical players, now so I'm looking forward to watching them with a good coach.
Club football is dead to me.
I was hoping for a bit of hope/joy at watching England play. But I've got neither with him in charge. He embarrassed himself in the last euro final and I suspect a heavy beating is coming our way in this one. If I thought they could actually win I would be excited to watch. Can't even be arsed watching. WIll probably just follow on this forum.
I do think england are producing some good technical players, now so I'm looking forward to watching them with a good coach.
Funny to see the entire country of England going into meltdown prior to a major international final, just like 3 years ago. And for a Euros, FFS. The Euros is not worth a tenth of the World Cup, in all honesty.
Of course this feeling of feverish anticipation, and the notion that every man, woman and child in the country will be watching the game will be completely forgotten once people on this forum start crazily arguing again that the freaking Champions League is a bigger deal than major international tournaments, and the 'pinnacle' of the sport. L O L....
Of course this feeling of feverish anticipation, and the notion that every man, woman and child in the country will be watching the game will be completely forgotten once people on this forum start crazily arguing again that the freaking Champions League is a bigger deal than major international tournaments, and the 'pinnacle' of the sport. L O L....
Have we really reached the stage now of mocking England fans for being excited to be in the Euros final?
Seems so
What really good coaches would manage at the International level?
Tuchel or Pochettino.....even Potter would be massive upgrade.
Im sorry but id never want a German managing the England side.
There are some unwritten things in football which cant happen and this is one of them.
I dont buy into the England Manager having to be English, but i draw the line with Germany.
This is fine.
But if the choice would be between Southgate and Klopp then i think 80% of the english people would want the german coach.
I'd be pleasantly surprised if we win just as I was when we beat City. But I will enjoy being in the final. Southgate has the luck of the devil despite being terrible at picking teams (or maybe he's really good at it and I'm terrible).
OK so Tuchel? No.
Poch, yes but would want a club to manage.
And Potter, he may well be the next guy they approach to succeed Southgate.
We've become a nation of armchair managers this time round though. He's doing well this tournament and seems to learn fairly quickly-obviously there are better managers out there, I wouldn't want him managing United for example. But there aren't too many viable alternatives in international football-it could be a case of be careful what you wish for.
Back to back finals is impressive.
Because we're a big football country, I hope the engand job is managed by an english man. So, a truly great coach is off the table. But Potter or Howe would be big upgrades.
Yeah you have no idea that's true actually. Club and International manager are different jobs
We've just seen the best club manager at these euros - by quite some distance at that - be the worst manager at the euros
Spalletti?
Well, nothing is for sure. But I'm pretty confident they would be an upgrade over southgate. At least, if they were in charge, I think England would have a chance, tomorrow.
I want us to use that pain we felt against Italy 3 years ago and many years before to drive us on
Doesn't matter if the other side is so much better.
We're getting a beating, tomorrow!
Yep, might reach a semi final or final or something. Or maybe 2 Euro finals back to back or something.
Jeez thought I was pessimistic
The english football Nation definitely deserves this title. Will be rooting for you tomorrow. Especially with Mainoo in the starting lineup.
Proper weird carry on this.
Hope either kills you or keeps you alive. For those who dread defeat tomorrow, I get it, but is it not better to live one’s life to embracing hope?
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