Tailenders up against the new ball, I guess. Was never going to be easy.
ENG v P'STAN 3rd TEST!
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Spoony said:
Well from what I saw there was doubt, so I don't agree.
How was Plunkett? I saw he didn't start too well.
Slabber said:
His guide dog kept getting in the way.
Nate said:
That took me a couple of seconds...
1-37 I think. Did well considering. Looks like Darren Fletcher though. Which I don't think is a good thing.
Where do you lot reckon this game will go? Reckon Pakistan'll probably bat till Tea tommorrow. Probably have a 70 run lead. Which will leave Pakistan chasing down a target on the last day. But there won't be enough overs to get them. Probably.
All depends on our second innings though.
Where do you lot reckon this game will go? Reckon Pakistan'll probably bat till Tea tommorrow. Probably have a 70 run lead. Which will leave Pakistan chasing down a target on the last day. But there won't be enough overs to get them. Probably.
All depends on our second innings though.
Our middle order isn't good enough. Pieterson at 5 is too high.
Spoony said:
Depends when the new ball is due.
If we can get them out with not too much of a lead we'll do ok I reckon, they haven't been uder mush pressure in the series and batting last will be.
Slabber said:
But he's a free scorer, drop him down and you risk losing some of his runs if he gets stuck with the tail.
I'd rather see him get 70/80 higher up than get 30 and be n/o while the tail go around him.
Nate said:
I like that expression.
Nate said:
If we had a proper spinner I would've fancied us. According to reports it'll take spin on the fourth. They reckon Danish will be dangerous. So, I'm a bit worried about that, especially considering we've got spastic players of legspin.
We'll see I guess. I wonder if losing that many overs will have an effect.
Nate said:
Ideally he'd bat at 6, but that's Flintoff's slot. There's no easy answer except for the pair of them to stop giving their wickets away.
Slabber said:
That;s how they play, Slabber. If they were more watchful and took less risks, they wouldn't get the runs they do. Pieterson's a justa dasher. Only got one decent stroke. He either scores with it or gets out.
Spoony said:
But you just can't play like that at number 5. He needs to graft us into a good position before he cuts lose.
Spoony said:
Nah, he's decent through the covers and pretty good legside.
In full flow he's fecking great to watch, a real banger, but he always risks getting out.
He needs to learn to curb it slighty, only a little, like in the last test he should have just chilled when he got his ton.
Slabber said:
I don't think he can play any other way. And he's South African.
Spoony said:
The overs lost are a joke really.
Spoony said:
He can. He's done it on occasions. He needs to stop speaking like a girl.
Slabber said:
I think he's a cnut. All South Africans are though aren't they.
I've never met a nice South African.
Nor have I.
Zimbos are much better.
Zimbos are much better.
What about Pakis?
Slabber said:
You were not a fast bowler by any chance ?
They're just like Irish.
Sultan said:
You were not a fast bowler by any chance ?
No I was medium-slow with a touch of swing. A Mark Ealham if you like.
Now I bowl leg-spin because I lost the ability to release the ball at the right time while moving my arms quickly.
And another thing, how comes it's ok for them to have a chucker playing? And taking wickets? That should be looked at.
Slabber said:
I was a fast bowler. Well fast medium I guess. Now I think I'd struggle to get my arm over as quick.
Which'd make me Mark Ealham-like now.
Spoony said:
If I try and bowl quick now I either bowl a beamer or bowl it straight into the ground and it whacks me on the chin.
Slabber said:
That's Irish.
You're just out of practice. I was also a dasher with the bat.
Dumpstar said:
Hair has been reported by India, Pakistan and Sri Lanka to the ICC on many occasions for his performances, they have even requested his non-involvement in any matches in the sub-continent...
They should report Rob Styles too.
The International Cricket Council is ready to consider six-day Test matches in Pakistan because of the amount of overs being lost to bad light.
The use of floodlights has made little difference to the problem, which only applies during the winter months.
In the current Test between Pakistan and England in Lahore, 13 overs were lost on the first day and 19 in the final session on day one.
"It is something we have to look at," said ICC chief executive Malcolm Speed.
"Getting a full quota of overs in a Test is a priority for us."
Around 60 overs were lost during the second Pakistan v England match in Faisalabad.
But Pakistan Cricket Board chairman Shaharyar Khan said they little option regarding the scheduling of matches.
"We can't have our cricket season at any other time of the year. We have to play our season from October to April.
"Playing at any other time would not be fair to visiting teams because of the hot weather," he explained.
"This seems to me the obvious solution."
The most recent six-day Test occurred during the ICC Super Series in Australia in October. Pakistan have never staged six-day games on home soil, although the team did play five on a 1958 tour to the West Indies. And Khan confirmed they would be willing to consider extending the length of home Tests to ensure the regulation 450 overs are possible.
The use of floodlights has made little difference to the problem, which only applies during the winter months.
In the current Test between Pakistan and England in Lahore, 13 overs were lost on the first day and 19 in the final session on day one.
"It is something we have to look at," said ICC chief executive Malcolm Speed.
"Getting a full quota of overs in a Test is a priority for us."
Around 60 overs were lost during the second Pakistan v England match in Faisalabad.
"We can't have our cricket season at any other time of the year. We have to play our season from October to April.
"Playing at any other time would not be fair to visiting teams because of the hot weather," he explained.
"This seems to me the obvious solution."
The most recent six-day Test occurred during the ICC Super Series in Australia in October. Pakistan have never staged six-day games on home soil, although the team did play five on a 1958 tour to the West Indies. And Khan confirmed they would be willing to consider extending the length of home Tests to ensure the regulation 450 overs are possible.
Nate said:
Yeah, Hair told Butt to unfairly "go back to where you came from!" After which Butt was lbw'ed to Udal!
That's racist!
Sultan said:
Or are the billion and a half people in this region playing the racist card?
The guy should NEVER be invited to umpire in the sub-cont. What was wrong with Taufel and Bowden. Excellent young umpires. Not seen umpires as good as them since Dickie Bird (give or take Inzi's dismissal which Taufel should have 1/3rd known about).
Sultan said:
Hair gives some silly decisions but whenever things go wrong the respective boards would thow the racist tantrum. The players aren't angels either......
Hair has been poor but Pakistan have played a part in that as well. Afridi's pitch tampering made the umps pay more attention to what the Pakistan players did with the pitch, plus the fact that the ICC want umps to pay more attention to what players do to the pitch in general. Secondly with Pakistan appealing every other ball, you cant expect any close decisions to go your way.
Dubai_Devil said:
Yeah that's really annoying and as you say counter productive...
Dubai_Devil said:
What? Close decisions? Have you watched any of this series??? OK, the Pakistanis have hardly been angels. In fact, far from with Afridi's antics and Kaneria's appealing. But does that excuse the obvious bias against brown skinned players?
I refer you to obvious and less-obvious but nonetheless important events such as ONLY penalising Butt, not referring Bell's obvious attempts at cheating a catch to the third umpire, calling Rana Naved's 'running on to the pitch', doing the same to Kaneria. Shoaib's clear catch behind, Sami's clear catch behind. I can go on. God can I go on, and its not all moan, moan, but hard clear facts. These are not simply 'mistakes'. These are mistakes ONLY against Pakistan.
Have any English players been penalised for running on the pitch, batsmen or bowlers? Yet I don't see anything Butt doing differently. Also, look at Hoggard's wicket to wicket bowling style. He takes two/three good strides down the CENTRE of the pitch. Does the fact that Afridi made that stupid mistake excuse the fact that Hair should completely be ignoring Hoggard's running on the pitch?
English fans on here, please list the umpiring mistakes made against England during this series. I'll be interested in seeing that so we can ascertain what Dubai means by 'close decisions'!!!. Thanks.
Flintoff had a good LBW shout with a crafty slower ball not given this morning, if that helps.
That was missing the leg stump.