Slabber said:
I see you understood my point then?
ENG v P'STAN 3rd TEST!
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I see you understood my point then?
crappycraperson said:
we've beaten all those sides away.
You have NEVER.
You're crap at cricket.
AND SA pitches are nothing like the ones in England. You're too young to understand, kid.
Well played Pakistan superb stuff by their bowlers. Shoaib really bowled well on a pitch that offered nothing to the fast bowlers. What a slower ball as well, not really the most well disguised slower ball you will see but his length was spot on, hence the way it looks like a beamer and dips right at the end.
That is normal though. The home team usually has conditions which suit them. During the Ashes England prepared pitches which would scuff up the ball thus bringing reverse swing into play, something they probably knew that many of the Australian batsman weren't familiar with hence them looking so clueless when playing it. Though some of the deliveries Jones and Flintoff pulled out even some of the best players of late reverse swing would have struggled against.
Even the Aussies have pitches that favour them. At the start of a test match the pitch will favour the fast men but by day 4 or 5 the pitch will get worse and Warne will come into play.
India will prepare the pitch to suit to their bowlers not England's bowlers. The whole point of playing away is to see whether the team can change their game to suit the conditions they are in. I wouldn't be surprised if they took England's main weapon (reverse swing) out of the equation by using the Kookaburra ball which has been used in this series. We have seen that this ball does not reverse swing much at all. They know England's batsman do not play spin well at all so they will probably have pitches that Kumble, Harbarjhan and Murali Kartik will excel on. Though last time the Aussies were playing they had some pitches which oddly enough favoured the Aussie bowlers, found that very strange....
Spoony said:
That is normal though. The home team usually has conditions which suit them. During the Ashes England prepared pitches which would scuff up the ball thus bringing reverse swing into play, something they probably knew that many of the Australian batsman weren't familiar with hence them looking so clueless when playing it. Though some of the deliveries Jones and Flintoff pulled out even some of the best players of late reverse swing would have struggled against.
Even the Aussies have pitches that favour them. At the start of a test match the pitch will favour the fast men but by day 4 or 5 the pitch will get worse and Warne will come into play.
India will prepare the pitch to suit to their bowlers not England's bowlers. The whole point of playing away is to see whether the team can change their game to suit the conditions they are in. I wouldn't be surprised if they took England's main weapon (reverse swing) out of the equation by using the Kookaburra ball which has been used in this series. We have seen that this ball does not reverse swing much at all. They know England's batsman do not play spin well at all so they will probably have pitches that Kumble, Harbarjhan and Murali Kartik will excel on. Though last time the Aussies were playing they had some pitches which oddly enough favoured the Aussie bowlers, found that very strange....
I dont think they use the kookaburra in india.
And Warne can turn it on concrete
But he will still get hammered by the Indians.Slabber said:
That really was shocking, even aussies commented that pitches favoured them.JazzG said:
Fecking dumb groundman.
crappycraperson said:
India just aren't that good. Good at home on doctored pitches. Crap everywhere else, except in Pakistan, which also has doctored pitches.
I'd ban them both from holding home tests until they sort the pitches out.
No bounce = no tests.
Whole thing about doctored pitches if crap, pitches on sub continent tend to be turning ones "naturally", infact to make them more pace friendly we need to doctor them by exporting sand or even ready made pitches from abroad. We exported a couple from NZ for our domestic competition.Slabber said:
Pakistan and Sri lanka have almost the same pitches as us but still niether has as good a home record as us. Whether english like to admitt it or not, winnind a test series in India is a major achievment for other teams, infact aussies said it was more important for them to win here than to win ashes.
As far as away tours go, admittedly we are a bit shit, only when it comes to tests though, we do alright in onedayers. If anybody would have watched us playing away in last 4 years, would have observed that we have played quite well, deserved to win a couple of series but opposition either holded on or we bottled it slightly. It was widely acknowledged that we were the better team in the series down under against the aussies. Even during our last england tour, you lot were trying to avoid defeat in the last match of the series.
crappycraperson said:
Doesn't India have any sand?
crappycraperson said:
If you believe that, you'll believe anything.
No bounce = no tests
I know it hurts but accept it aussie wanted to win here more than some over hyped trophy which they have been retaining with ease.Slabber said:
Slabber said:
That's not really the problem. SA and Aus have bouncy wickets. The rest don't. I reckon the conditions in NZ are virtually indentical to ours. I reckon a good wicket has a bit in it for everyone. Bit of movement for the seamers, some spin later on after day four and decent enough conditions for the batsmen once they've got in. Pitches in Pakistan were dead. Had nothing in it for anyone bar the batsmen. Although if you can bowl 95 mph you've got a chance on any wicket, and Akhtar proved that, although his amazing dipping slower ball did the trick in Lahore. The wickets in India however will be tailor made for their spinners. . . and I bet they'll turn from day one.
crappycraperson said:
They were saying it to wind up the English, and with a touch of arrogance after winning the Ashes for so long. You can bet your bottom dollar they'd take getting the Ashes back over everything else.
Slabber said:
No one gives a stuff about India. Even Pakistan would rather beat England.
Spoony said:
Not even the Indians. That's why it's such a shithole.
Slabber said:
England 1 - 0 India.
Ashes win was a fluke as it did nothing but triggered the usual big talk from the media and false expectations from the fans. If they wanna win some overseas series, England must frequently tour and be trained to beat average teams like New Zealand, West Indies and Zimbabwe. A 3-0 thrashing from Australia, South Africa and India cannot take them anywhere.
England beat SA in SA last time around. And we beat WI 3-0 away and 4-0 at home. You ignorant twat.
Normal service resumed?
I feel much more English now.
I feel much more English now.
Slabber said:
Thats simply not enough. You must take more frequent trips to Zimababwe and West Indies to gain experience.
vijay said:
Slabber said:
why are you so confused?
Fecking loon.
Yeah lets go to Zimababwe who are so shit some want their test status taken away.
Yeah lets go to Zimababwe who are so shit some want their test status taken away.
I think Vijay is feeling lonely since he's been banned from the General and wants some attention.
The indians despite having a strong batting line up have collapsed today.
Pity the rain washed out nearly four days, could have been a good match.
Pity the rain washed out nearly four days, could have been a good match.
Slabber said:
He's trying to be funny.
Go with it.
4-46
GiggsysGirl said:
4-46
And another game in your thread which we lost.
What a rubbish thread this has turned into.
England have been very good in the last year or two. Achievements have been beating Australia at home, England and Pakistan away(im not aware of others). We were very good for a period before that.. we beat Australia at home twice, Pakistan away once, England at home, and came very close to beating Australia in Australia.
Dont know what the arguments are about. England are looking good ATM, they were awful against Pakistan in the test series but they will learn from it. We too seem to have gotten it right after a poor run of form. Things are finally looking competitive in the cricketing world after some time.
England have been very good in the last year or two. Achievements have been beating Australia at home, England and Pakistan away(im not aware of others). We were very good for a period before that.. we beat Australia at home twice, Pakistan away once, England at home, and came very close to beating Australia in Australia.
Dont know what the arguments are about. England are looking good ATM, they were awful against Pakistan in the test series but they will learn from it. We too seem to have gotten it right after a poor run of form. Things are finally looking competitive in the cricketing world after some time.
Actually, if you do your homework, you'll find South African pitches are very similar to English ones.Spoony said:
You're insecure about everything, aren't you?Spoony said:
England 1 - 0 India.
Gloryhunting Ihni binni dimi diniwiny anitaimeWibble said:
Ern said:
Yes. That's right.
Weirdo.
Thank you for further illustrating my point.Spoony said:
Ern said:
Yes. That's right.
Weirdo.
Nice ODI today.
Knighthoods all round.
Knighthoods all round.