Emiliano Sala: Rest In Peace
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I assumed it indicates that the plane is in bits.
Is there a black box on this type of plane?
It's not required on single prop planes I am 100% sure. However, I feel with the safety increasing in commercial air travel, it raises the question of why isn't every play fitted with them, including personal props.
Whoever was in charge of providing transport for a player who had just broken a clubs record fee, why didn't they put him on a jet? (I presume his agent was in charge of this)
Props shouldn't be excluded from carrying Flight Data Recorders or Voice Recorders as how can investigators find out as to what happened to this crash or future accident!
Agree. Flying over open sea with only 1 engine in the winter is pretty nuts anyway. If that engine dies, you're 99% dead. Over land you can at least glide and make a decent crash landing most of the time.
I think every commercial jet has at least 2 engines.
Must be quite hard for Warnock in many ways, he's probably just got to know Sala during negotiations after earmarking him as a signing.
Plane found.
RIP Sala and Ibbotson.
Amazed they found it! Thankfully the families and friends will get closure now.
You'd have to hope that the bodies are in the plane to give the families some form of closure.
Damn. Hopefully that’s some form of closure for the families.
Hopefully they’re in the plane still
Hope was always there but reality was he and the pilot were gone.
I'm glad both families and friends can put closure to this and remember them for what they brought them.
The stories about the agents and what they have done is another story but for tonight I'm glad the parents and family might be able to finally sleep, all be it very sadly.
I'm glad both families and friends can put closure to this and remember them for what they brought them.
The stories about the agents and what they have done is another story but for tonight I'm glad the parents and family might be able to finally sleep, all be it very sadly.
Hopefully, but you'd imagine they would have tried to abandon it in which case the currents could have taken them anywhere.
Pleased they’ve found the plane - that’s about as good as things could go at this stage; hopefully the families can have some closure.
RIP Sala and pilot. At least some closure.
Doubt they'd have survived long enough to be able to attempt to abandon the plane. Probably dead on impact.
Mean this in the best way possible, but let's hope that's the case. I'd much rather go that way than the alternative.
At least the families will have some closure. So sad.
Surprised so many people thought it would be impossible to find the plane, they found the Air France 447, it wouldn't be a challenge in paddy deep water (compared to the area of the forementioned flight), in a much smaller sea.
Sigh. So sad. Hope the families feel closure here. 
It's different for large commercial aircraft. The flight recorders on them planes give out signals as to where they are in the water. Also you know roughly the last known location due to their transponders reporting back to ATC's
Obviously at this stage all looks lost tragically.
But I doubt the family will
Have closure yet, not until the plane has been recovered from the sea bed.
If the plane is recovered with the main section in tack with no bodies or life raft, hope will continue for them, miracles do happen.
They will only get closure if Sala and the pilot are found alive in a raft eventually, or if the bodies are recovered in the plane.
But I doubt the family will
Have closure yet, not until the plane has been recovered from the sea bed.
If the plane is recovered with the main section in tack with no bodies or life raft, hope will continue for them, miracles do happen.
They will only get closure if Sala and the pilot are found alive in a raft eventually, or if the bodies are recovered in the plane.
I think it is pretty clear from the wording of the search team that they did find the bodies:
"This is about the best result we could have hoped for the families but tonight they have heard devastating news and in respect of the families I won't comment any further about what has happened.
"All I will say about the wreckage is there is a substantial amount of wreckage on the seabed."
More details will be revealed tomorrow.
"This is about the best result we could have hoped for the families but tonight they have heard devastating news and in respect of the families I won't comment any further about what has happened.
"All I will say about the wreckage is there is a substantial amount of wreckage on the seabed."
More details will be revealed tomorrow.
What are you expecting to have happened at this point?
Let's say they have survived the crash and got in a life raft. They're not in the middle of the Amazon, so let's assume that if they had made it to shore somehow they would, after three weeks, have bumped in to someone who could let people know they've found them. That clearly hasn't happened, so whichever one of the scenarios you prefer from there they're all just variations of them dying either quickly or slowly.
Jesus f christ. No.
What?
Very sad
They will have died on impact, this would have been a very violent crash that tore the plane apart. I would imagine they were both strapped in so probably found with the wreckage. The cushions washed up so it suggests the fuselage was ripped open, so the bodies might be lost.
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This is truly a shame. All these aircraft tragedies connected to sports are always incredibly sad to read about. I just hope his family and loved ones will stay strong.
Sad but good news for their families.
This makes me wonder why small planes like this doesn't have last safety precautions such as having parachute kit or something like that.
Any pilot can explain to me?
Any pilot can explain to me?
My condolences to the family and all those involved. It seemed the family already started earlier to come terms with it, best they could, by hiring a guy to search the sea bed, instead of a dream rescue mission. In that way it's the best result they found the wreckage so soon. Today I learned that if you crash into the sea privately, the official search won't go beyond a rescue mission and won't proceed on a mission to retrieve the body, without privately sponsored help of specialists. The worst part of this accident is that it seems so eerily similar to JFK Jr. A pilot not equipped to fly at night over water on instruments only, etc. Wasn't the thing about airplane accidents that they learn from each one how to prevent the specifics to happen again?
They probably did, it was confirmed they had a life raft too! Problem is that in those conditions, in the dark, a pilot won't know which direction he is going of certain things freeze.
There's one theory that the pilot lowers to 2300feet from 5000feet due to ice, if something froze he could have been still going lower without knowing until it's too late, they probably didn't even see the water until they were seconds away.
Didn't they have TAWS-B installed on Pipers?
I honestly have no idea, just theory I read on Reddit! Also the pilot might have panicked? All i was suggesting is they may have had parachutes etc, but they probably had no time to use them.
Also parachuting into the English channel in those temperatures? They'd be better off crashing.
Parachuting in zero visibility is non option, especially in freezing temperatures in the middle of the channel. Even if they survive the impact with the water they will have under an hour to find rescue and in the middle of the night is close to impossible. Their only chance in case of mechanical/pilot error given the circumstances was controlled landing into terrain in bright daylight setting off the ELT and getting help asap, which was not the case.
I also read that the plane is manufactured over 30 years ago. In case of mechanical failure and falling like a rock from 5k feet for example the g-force would be so strong they could barely move, let alone time to put a parachute on. You also have to factor disorientation and change of pressure if there is a loss of cabin pressure.
At least the families would have some closure after this. I know that hope dies last, but as soon as contact is lost and there were no news from them, the chances of surviving impact were close to 0.