A lot of air traffic controllers and experts on aircraft on the caf today.
Emiliano Sala: Rest In Peace
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Nice change from the usual football managers and agents, isn't it?
True,they’ll be back in management again shortly the transfer window is open.
Are you seriously comparing crashing a plane in the channel during the winter to sitting on a raft with supplies in the pacific ? Well, there you have it, that explains why you think there's a possibility that there are survivors after the plane crash. There's an extremely short list of people who survive long exposure in this type of climate, even with immersion suits.
Mathew Bryce is close, but even that was during may, winter time and he'd be dead.
The majority seem to be in agreement
The key point is that it depends on conditions, time of year
And rightfully so. I don't see why Ronaldo has to pander to people like you or Lineker. He knew exactly what his intentions were when he posted that and I'm 100% sure it had nothing to do with the Sala incident. It's badly timed, of course but that action has already been done. Lineker was the one who chose to make the link and connect the two. Interestingly enough, I saw the pic just as I found out about the news and didn't even make the connection in my head until Linker quoted the tweet. I looked at the comments too. They were mostly positive until Linker came in and obviously influenced the masses; bringing the wrong attention in the most unnecessary way. Ronaldo probably shouldn't have posted it but I don't think he's obliged to remove it either..
I don't think this is strictly true, assuming you mean driving to the airport to fly. You have a bigger chance of dying per plane trip than per car trip. It's just that you drive so many more times, and for much shorter distances. It's per mile that aviation safety record truly shines versus a car.
Apparently smoke spotted on a island around the channel where the plane went over. Investigators are going to check it out but are not confident It is any major lead.
Ah, so sad.
At least he did get to experience being a pro-player at what he loved.
But yeah, just really sad.
At least he did get to experience being a pro-player at what he loved.
But yeah, just really sad.
The family asked that it not be published and it be taken down.
Having said that, it seems the audio was made on the ground, and he might have been jesting, from the tone he uses.
RIP
Speechless tbh.
RIP to him
Incredibly tragic. Makes one think we should really cherish everyday we have in this life.
Terrible for the family to leave that ray of hope. It'll make it very difficult to find closure.
Something I find horrifying is that if Sala doesn't speak English and if the pilot of the plane doesn't speak Spanish then communicating with each-other during an emergency would have been horrible, that plane probably had different emergency procedures compared to others Sala flew on too.
It's all so tragic especially as he had doubts about the plane, many of us would have refused to go on it but given that he's probably been on 100's of flights before I guess he could probably joke / think something could happen but not actually believe that it would.
It's all so tragic especially as he had doubts about the plane, many of us would have refused to go on it but given that he's probably been on 100's of flights before I guess he could probably joke / think something could happen but not actually believe that it would.
"The chances of survival is remote" - I find that to be insensitive because they're basically saying they could still be alive. I understand you don't want to be definitive just in case they do somehow miraculously get found, but the family and friends will be distraught at that comment.
Oh man this is shite news. Kept hoping they'd be found on a life raft or something like that. Best wishing to all involved.
On a side note - don't all planes have to be fitted with a black box or is that just commercial and not private ones?
On a side note - don't all planes have to be fitted with a black box or is that just commercial and not private ones?
Not really, it's just a polite way to bring across the message that there's no chance left he's alive. Agree that it sucks for the family though, it'd be better if they found them.
Feck sake, that’s terrible. My thoughts and condolences to the families. Fecking tragic situation that no one deserves to be in.
It says extremely remote. I’m not sure how else you could sensitively imply that he’s likely dead.
Absolutely tragic news my thoughts and prayers go out to his family and the pilots.
I know this is the last thing to matter but I was curious. In a situation like this where Cardiff payed 15M to Nantes for him and contracts were signed and now as we know he has tragically passed what happens? because technically Cardiff just lost 15M. Is there like a fair play situation where the clubs agree to each get half of the 15M? Obviously the family will get his salary I'm assuming but in general what would happen?
Once again I know that's the last thing on the mind of the clubs but it is a situation they will come across so I am curious.
I know this is the last thing to matter but I was curious. In a situation like this where Cardiff payed 15M to Nantes for him and contracts were signed and now as we know he has tragically passed what happens? because technically Cardiff just lost 15M. Is there like a fair play situation where the clubs agree to each get half of the 15M? Obviously the family will get his salary I'm assuming but in general what would happen?
Once again I know that's the last thing on the mind of the clubs but it is a situation they will come across so I am curious.
Cardiff will get their money back via insurance
Awful news. I always had the faint hope he'd wash up somewhere on a raft or something. RIP
But shouldn't Nantes get something since a contract was signed and their player has now passed ?
They will anyway, she means getting the money back from an insurance company, not Nantes. Nantes should get the transfer value in full, since it had already been finalized.
Cardiff might get reimbursed by the insurer, though from what I read sometimes clubs take a few days to have all that paperwork ready, so there's a chance they might not, depending on whether the insurance was already active or not.
I would think there would be complications over the fact he hasn't been found too, life insurance doesn't pay out until you're missing, I think it's, 7 years.
Footballer / Football club insurance could be different of course, they might just have to prove he can't play. Which is evident.
This whole event has been so incredibly sad, he had just taken the step up, made the big time, was realising his dreams, and it's all snatched away from him and his family in a single moment.
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ahhh I understand now will be curious to see how it all unfolds. For now though my only hope is he did not suffer and that his family finds piece somehow.
What bothers me is reports said it took the plane 4 attempts to get off the ground why didn't they switch planes or just call off the flight for another day. Then the irony of his last post " the last goodbye" it almost seems like things like these are "planned" by the higher up its so sad.
The sea is so vast. I hope the families of the two men can somehow find closure.
I've flown over the channel more times than i can count. Surreal to have the world focusing on this part of the world, for such a sad situation.
I've flown over the channel more times than i can count. Surreal to have the world focusing on this part of the world, for such a sad situation.
You cannot convince me that a whole airplane has disappeared with no trace despite the advancements in radar and satellites
Imagine this was some elaborate insurance scam.
Pretend the plane is going down, switch off the sensors and land somewhere. Keep the player missing for a week or 2 until the insurance money is paid out, then suddenly makes a miraculous return.
Sounds like a hollywood film plot.
Jesus mate have some respect.
Wut?
Not cool.
I've never heard the reasons for the failed take off attempts, but whatever it was you have to wonder why they persisted.
That said, we don't know the two events are linked, and I don't know whether that's common or not for planes like this.
@RobinLFC I know what you're both saying, but technically you're still leaving them with a thought that they could still be alive.
Listened to the sister basically beg the search team to keep searching as he's a fighter, heart breaking stuff.
I suppose if they were to say there is no possibility of them surviving this long and then suddenly turn up they'd look silly, but it just feels like they're covering all possibilities which won't put the families at ease.
Guess I just feel sorry for the people close to these unfortunate guys really, no doubt the rescue team, and everyone trying to look for them have done everything humanly possible to find them.