ArmandTamzarian
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Still some hope they have survived.
I don't think it was his choice Cardiff made a fuss about wanting him over as quick as possible so he could start playing .
Still some hope they have survived.
Just a poor timing by Ronaldo, hope he deleted the tweet though.
Was it some old plane Sala flew with?
You can disagree that it's not inconsiderate or at the very least bad timing, fair enough. But there's a time and place for everything imo and this was neither imo.It's people like yourself and Lineker who create the issues that aren't there. You two should pat yourselves on your backs.
It's not looking good now
As bad as it sounds I hope that is a real quote and not some bullshit someone has made for 'likes'.
Also, people rushing in here to stick it to Ronaldo are pathetic.
They're not playing this weekend so guess it's light training and days off this week and real preparation would start Thursday-Friday for their game next Tuesday.
That said if it was Sala's first day I doubt he'd have wanted to cause issues by arriving late and claiming it was due to a faulty aircraft so can sadly understand why he thought the chances of an accident were very minimal.
For the record I'm sure Ronaldo didn't know what had happened when he Tweeted that. It should be deleted though. I just can't believe someone actually brought up "well he's a Messi fan so..." over this
Virtue signalling. Lineker loves doing it. It wasn't a greatly timed tweet from Ronaldo but there was no need for Gary to draw even more attention to it when it was obviously just an unfortunate coincidence. If he really cared about the sensitivity of it, I'm sure he would know how to get in touch with Ronaldo's people directly rather than calling it out to the world.Whatever, but I'm pretty sure if it was Messi who had posted it, he probably wouldn't take the same view. He'd probably view it more like I'm viewing it.
What was the purpose of him quoting it exactly? He knew how the masses would react especially being that it's Ronaldo.
Nope. Even worse:
Everything surrounding it makes it seem like it really wasn't safe at all. Awful stuff.
There is no hope, it will be like Leicester I'm afraid. Just hope the authorities can find everything they need to find so the family can get closure and we can hear what went wrong.
Virtue signalling. Lineker loves doing it. It wasn't a greatly timed tweet from Ronaldo but there was no need for Gary to draw even more attention to it when it was obviously just an unfortunate coincidence. If he really cared about the sensitivity of it, I'm sure he would know how to get in touch with Ronaldo's people directly rather than calling it out to the world.
Their Chairman said he made his own flying arrangements. I think he only went back to Nantes to say goodbye, he'd already been over to Cardiff and signed etc.Why fly your record signing in a small crap plane.. I thought there was enough commercial airplanes going to Cardiff?
Their Chairman said he made his own flying arrangements. I think he only went back to Nantes to say goodbye, he'd already been over to Cardiff and signed etc.
Jug Ears just likes to pontificate. He thinks his opinions are important to the country.
Attention seeking constantly.
surely they'll find the remains of the plane though?
When things need to happen at short notice in the football business then you take the resource that's available at the time. A lot in the business is fudged and sorted out however and whenever - it is run in a surprisingly amateur manner considering the amounts of money involved.
A number of different people could have been responsible for arranging this player's transport. It could have been either of the two clubs involved, his agent, some shadowy 'fixer' or even himself. I doubt any of those people would have much of a clue about the risks involved in different types of light aircraft, nor would they much care - until something goes wrong.
It's amazing isn't it how even a bit of knowledge leads us to take a totally different view? If my employer decided I needed to be ferried over the channel in a high performance light aircraft in last night's weather, then I'd have been all over the whole thing like a rash. I'd be checking the weather to the nth degree, sussing out the pilot and learning all I could about the aircraft. I'd have been acutely aware of press-on-itis. But someone with no interest in aviation at all (excuse the assumption), he just gets on the plane when he's told and trusts that everything will be fine....
I doubt it. As others have previously mentioned, it was a small aircraft and so it would be difficult finding something like that in such large volume of water. Also, with strong currents around that area, who knows where the debris will end up. I don't think we will ever find out what happened as I doubt they will find the black box.
"Need to happen at short notice." It wasn't deadline day.
You can disagree that it's not inconsiderate or at the very least bad timing, fair enough. But there's a time and place for everything imo and this was neither imo.
I agree. The football community is small, and this was big news yesterday. In my opinion, Rondalo should habe more self awareness.You can disagree that it's not inconsiderate or at the very least bad timing, fair enough. But there's a time and place for everything imo and this was neither imo.
Yes, I actually believe all air traffic should be cancelled until they're found.So should we condemn stuff like the BBC “Higuain flies to London for a medical” report then?
Yes, I actually believe all air traffic should be cancelled until they're found.
Their Chairman said he made his own flying arrangements. I think he only went back to Nantes to say goodbye, he'd already been over to Cardiff and signed etc.
I agree with this. It's not a horrible misjustice, just shitty timing and an unneeded post. I would say it was his team that posted it on a schedule, so it wouldn't be Ronaldo's fault. But should be taken down for the time being.You can disagree that it's not inconsiderate or at the very least bad timing, fair enough. But there's a time and place for everything imo and this was neither imo.
You can expect a silly answer if you're asking silly questions though.Don't be silly.
Like I wrote in a earlier post here the plane was an odd choice to say the least. An oversea flight with winds 15-20 m/s with a single engine is really not what this plane was designed to do.. Its usually used for inland trips. Plains and fields in the USA for example.The aircraft model he was flying on is the "Piper PA-46," a light aircraft that holds 1 pilot and 5 passengers. First introduced in the 80s; it is actually known for it's frequent accidents and inability to handle adverse weather conditions which is what Emiliano's plane likely encountered when he reached the English Channel from France which is where the aircraft lost radar contact. It really is devastating.
Also, the audio of him speaking about being scared and the plane looking like it's about to fall apart was allegedly sent when he was still on the ground. He was supposedly saying it because he really wasn't impressed by it. That's why he later then added the line "If you don't hear from me in an hour and a half, I dunno if people will come to look for me." It was said in jest but turned out to be an utterly tragic coincidence. Condolences to his family.
Normally not no.. The regulations are pretty simple actually.I'm not sure to be honest. Need one of our resident pilots. @arthurka
Like I wrote in a earlier post here the plane was an odd choice to say the least. An oversea flight with winds 15-20 m/s with a single engine is really not what this plane was designed to do.. Its usually used for inland trips. Plains and fields in the USA for example.
Normally not no.. The regulations are pretty simple actually.
Voice recorder
Large 4-engine turbine powered
Large 4-engine pressurized planes
Multi 10+ passengers
Multi 20+ passengers
Multi with rotor 6+ with 2 pilots
Flight data
Multi or rotor 10+
Multi or rotor 6+ with two pilots
Large planes operating over 25.000 ft
Large turbine powered airplanes
Turbine transport CAT planes
Was it not the cardiff's owners plane ?
From the Cardiff Chairman, Mehmet Dalman:Was it not the cardiff's owners plane ?
“We spoke to the player and asked him if he wanted us to make arrangements for his flight which, quite frankly, would have been commercial. He declined and made his own arrangements.
“I can’t tell you who arranged the flight because I don’t know at this stage - but it certainly wasn’t Cardiff City.”
You can expect a silly answer if you're asking silly questions though.
If Messi posted it it would be far worse given there would be a much lower presumption of ignorance given the nationalities involved, in my opinion. But Messi didn’t post this. I don’t know why I’m engaging this hypothetical since it’s you making this a “Messi v Ronaldo” discussion.Whatever, but I'm pretty sure if it was Messi who had posted it, he probably wouldn't take the same view. He'd probably view it more like I'm viewing it.
What was the purpose of him quoting it exactly? He knew how the masses would react especially being that it's Ronaldo.