E3 2011

I don't know what to think of the wii 2 controller.

I'd heard rumours that Nintendo were developing new motion technology to go with a virtual reality headset which was to be the centre piece of the wii 2.
 
Weaste, most people grow out of being console fanboys by the time they are Twelve. For the moment I am reserving judgement until we hear things like price, relationship with the Wii and the extent of graphical capability. Though for the time being, the fact they are both trying to hold on to their wii audience and move back to the mainstream market and have the commitment of some major third party publishers is encouraging.

It's a turd!
 
It's a turd!

We are going to have to wait and see on that. It is going to be very interesting to see what the relationship between WiiU and Wii is, the issue of the cost of the controller is paramount though I don't think it will be anywhere near as expensive as many expect it to be. They made it very clear during the presentation that it won't operate as a standalone device, free to operate independently. I am guessing so to keep the cost down it will be light on internal machinery required in a handheld and instead wii just use wifi to beam imagery to and fro with the home console.

Obviously you are the technical guy and I know little on this front but I imagine it will be something along these lines they are trying to do, combine that with an update of the Wii as opposed to building a new console from the ground up then I don't see it being uncompetitive with the launch prices of X360 and PS3, that however depends on how next gen it is graphically.

If it is clearly a step in front of the present generation then I can see it being successful but if it is no more powerful than X360 and PS3, and costs lets say £300 compared to a £100 X360 with a full catalogue of games with its successor on the way then it would be problematic.
 
News - Videogames - Yahoo! Games - Yahoo! Video Games

The successor to Nintendo Wii combines high-definition graphics with an innovative controller that has a built-in touch screen, and is promised to arrive next year.
Nintendo thinks it has found the solution to giving everyone exactly what they want, while also something new. Something that is comfortable but also a surprise. Something we’ve always had but at the same time something new. They’re calling it ‘Wii U’.
What’s in the name? Well, just briefly the name Wii referred to We as in everyone. The ‘U’ refers, guess what, to you. A gaming system that’s right for everyone but also a perfect fit for only you. We are paraphrasing Nintendo here, hopefully it all makes sense.
The most striking feature of all on the new console is the controller. It incorporates a huge 6.2-inch touch screen capable of displaying high-definition visuals comparable to those produced by Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3.
For those that want them, the large touch screen is surrounded by numerous buttons and sticks: two analogue sticks, the cross-key direction pad, A, B, X, Y buttons on top, L, R, Z and B buttons at the back. It has a rumble feature built in, accelerometers, gyroscope, and an outward facing camera. Last but not least its own microphone and speakers.
The new controller’s most basic and useful feature is that it allows you to continue playing a Wii U game even if somebody needs to watch the TV. The TV image is immediately and seamlessly transferred to your controller the moment Dad switches to football or News at 10.
At this point we need to point out that the Wii U controller is not a portable games console – it needs to communicate with the main console plugged in at home to function. However it can be used anywhere in the house, away from the living room if needed. You could be playing the new Ghost Recon or FIFA football while tucked up in bed. Not that we’re recommending such a thing.
Nintendo’s video demonstration showed the Wii U controller functioning as a graphics tablet, and how easy it is to transfer the fruits of your labour onto the nearest telly – with a flick of the wrist. There can be games made solely for the Wii U touch screen, such as Othello, it can be used to magnify sections of the screen – perfect for if you’re the Wicket Keeper in Cricket (Or a catcher in Baseball) because you can focus only on your hands while the batter on screen takes in the full view.
One of the best and most surprising new uses was as a golf tee for Wii Sports, placing an imaginary ball on the Wii U controller on the floor, then standing over it with the Wii remote to swing. We also liked how a virtual throwing star (shuriken) could be flicked toward targets on screen from the controller. It can be used as a scope for a gun or camera, enlarging objects as you move it around.
Even if you have absolutely no interest in games, the Wii U controller can be used for video calls across the secure Nintendo Network. You can even have a video call in progress while playing a Wii u game on the TV. It can also enhance web-browsing, again somebody could be searching the internet for a funny video clip and immediately transfer this to the telly upon finding it.
In summary, Nintendo intends the new console to create a strong bond between games, TV and the Internet. In turn this is hoped to create a strong bond between you, your friends and your family.
There are only two games confirmed for Wii U right now. The first is ‘Smash Bros’ which will also share features with a new version of ‘Smash Bros’ for Nintendo 3DS. Of more widespread interest though will be ‘LEGO City Stories’ from TT Games, a new instalment of the 60 million selling series
To feature an world game packed with LEGO vehicles. This will also be released for 3DS.
Other than that, Nintendo is currently showing off eight demos.
The first shows off what the hardware can do visually, a beautiful high-definition – almost photo-real – representation of a bird flying around a Japanese temple gardens. The cherry blossom of the trees, and the bark of the trees, is extraordinarily detailed. After the bird plucks a flower in its beak then drops it into the lifelike pond, a Koi Carp leaps from the water.
In a demo called ‘Shield Pose’ the Wii U controller demonstrates how the gaming space exists all around you, requiring that the controller is positioned to defend against arrows fired from all directions. ‘Chase Me’ provides different viewpoints for players holding a Wii remote or Wii U handset, the latter displaying a birds-eye view of the game-world so that you can see who’s closing in on you.
In a sci-fi shooting game scenario, two players aim Wii remotes at the pilot of a galactic fighter looking down as though from above. The best known characters are displayed in a version of ‘New Super Mario Bros’, dubbed ‘New Super Mario Bros Mii’ in which your Mii plays alongside Mario, on the TV or the Wii U controller.
Nintendo has already gained the support of the world’s biggest games publishers, chief among them Electronic Arts that has already formed an unprecedented partnership with Nintendo for Wii U. EA CEO John Riccitiello joined Nintendo President Satoru Iwata on stage to say that Wii U is a perfect fit for the new EA direction of games, evolving from things you can buy to places you can go. Riccitiello named ‘Battlefield’ and ‘Madden’ specifically, thrilled at the possibilities.
Other publishers listed include Namco Bandai, Ubisoft, Warner Bros and THQ whose Danny Bilson referred to the new system as boasting “The Swiss Army Knife of Controllers”.
To close the Wii U presentation, Nintendo’s showreel featured the following games. All of them look at least on par with what you are already getting on PS3 and Xbox 360, but with the cool controller shenanigans going on besides:
Aliens Colonial Marines (SEGA)
Darksiders II (THQ)
Dirt (Codemasters)
Metro Last Light, (THQ)
Ninja Gaiden 3: Razors Edge (Tecmo Koei)
Tekken (Namco Bandai)
Tom Clancy’s Ghost Recon Online (Ubisoft)
In short, we are honestly hugely impressed by Nintendo Wii U. If the price is right in 2012 the urge to own one will be almost irresistible. Look out for the hands-on report here on Yahoo! UK Games.

I haven't seen the demo, but reading this article makes it sound potentially good.

I think the alleged photo-real graphics on the demo, video chat feature, Internet browsing and the zoom feature are interesting.

It's like a mish mash of a tablet pc, games console and mini tv in one. If they get it right then it could be amazing, but it might leave developers with almost too much choice and end up failing to fulfilling its potential.

As Weaste said, the controller pricing could kill it, but then with the way games are increasingly focused on online multiplayer rather than in-house multiplayer, it might not be too much of an issue. It could be interesting to see what happens with this over the next few months.
 
What I am trying to work out is why do you unveil the next generation when it clearly isn't formalised, when you have no games to show but just technical show pieces. You don't need to show a new console at E3, it is a big enough event to have a standalone press thing over, when the software is ready.

Though I am sure we are all happy a Lego game will be produced for WiiU.
 
It's exactly the same as remote play, but you can't take it out of the house. The thing is, it will be compulsory, so at least it will get used, but it's another clear example of Nintendo ripping Sony's experimental ideas off. It's stupid and shit!

Was the Move not ripped off from Nintendo?
 
But they did really, Nintendo showed how to make it a success and Sony said I will have a piece of that.

You almost come across bitter against other companies. Surely you must have something nice to say about Nintendo and Microsoft. Go on try it
 
But they did really, Nintendo showed how to make it a success and Sony said I will have a piece of that.

No they didn't, that's the point, they simply didn't have it mature enough to the point that they believed it could be the standard control mechanism. They still don't believe it either.

You almost come across bitter against other companies.

You have not read enough of my posts over time to actually be able to write that. I'm not full of bullshit, I basically say things mostly based on fact. Richard Marks was wiggling a wand around connected to a PS2 in late 2000, it just happened to be a foam ball on the end of a pencil. Sony invested a lot of money into that - Kinect is a copy of it as well. The difference being, as I said, Sony did not have the confidence to make it the standard control mechanism. It now seems even Nintendo have moved away from it.
 
It seems the Dreamcast VMU was ahead of it's time. I remember seeing it and thinking how cool it would be in a couple of years time when we would have fully playable console games on a detatchable portable. Alas that never transpired. Now it seems that the VMU was something of a prophetic device.
 
No they didn't, that's the point, they simply didn't have it mature enough to the point that they believed it could be the standard control mechanism. They still don't believe it either.



You have not read enough of my posts over time to actually be able to write that. I'm not full of bullshit, I basically say things mostly based on fact. Richard Marks was wiggling a wand around connected to a PS2 in late 2000, it just happened to be a foam ball on the end of a pencil. Sony invested a lot of money into that - Kinect is a copy of it as well. The difference being, as I said, Sony did not have the confidence to make it the standard control mechanism. It now seems even Nintendo have moved away from it.

meh, if it wasnt for Nintendo, it is unlikely Sony would have ever entered the console market. So you at least have to thank them for that
 
Is it just me or have both the GameSpot and Youtube streams been acting up?

Oh and that's #10,000 for me!
 
Ahh YouTube's working for me now.

Can't stand IGN's Hilary Goldstein, if it wasn't bad enough that his name was Hilary, he's also a shit reviewer who also has a voice like nails on a blackboard.
 
I'm not a tech head, so I'll just say... pardon?

It's using a POWER 7 if the rumour is true. They are getting that idea because POWER 7 has embedded RAM. It's a server chip though, and I don't think that it comes in 3 core versions, but maybe IBM did a custom job for Nintendo. It's a bit of an overkill, especially looking at the size of the box, which to me seems like it has passive cooling.