Hmmm, there's certainly some anti-Jose sentiment in here and it's the usual suspects using any platform to have a dig.
Duncan Castles : Jose Mourinho on collision course with Ed Woodward over Manchester United transfers
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Hmmm, there's certainly some anti-Jose sentiment in here and it's the usual suspects using any platform to have a dig.
If I were Mourinho right now and we seemingly hadn't made any progress on any vital signings (which from our perspective, it would seem we havent), I'd be pretty upset with Eddie too. Mourinho will want to win the league this year if possible, getting his men in ASAP is so important, hes done enough in his career to warrant belief in his judgement. Just pay over the odds Ed, it seems we'll have to anyway
So many drama queens. It's a normal summer, we'll make a few signings soon.
Rugby. Why else would you go there unless you like sheep and bungee jumping.
I knew one person would miss the obvious!
If Woodward does fail to get the transfer targets in he won't be fired. He is doing to well at the commercial side, so responsibility for football negotiations will be passed on to someone with more knowhow.
Seriously the only thing Ed needs to do is give Mourinho what he wants and it basically guarantees a title, he's won it everywhere. It's worrying because things have gone completely tits up for Mourinho in the past when club execs have interfered or not allowed him to bring in his targets.
I can see some merits to this. Just increases Mourinho's popularity and control of the club.
What will somebody with more football know how do in negotiations?
"Here's £50m for player x"
"we want £60m"
"uhmmm did you know..."
Still, do you think that Matic is worth 40m, Perisic 50m and Morata 80m?
Sure what are ye all worried about. Players like Perisic and Matic won't get snapped up by other clubs anyway.
Nothing to do with what Castles is saying, I thought it before this thread appeared based on what Jose was saying and his body language at the end of the season.
Probably not, but if there's a club where that shouldn't matter that much is United. If those players get us the jump we need, they're probably worth the money. Can you risk assess/calculate how much not having a proper striker to start pre-season might cost?
Ed is probably still getting pissed up in a ditch and getting urinated on by the rugby folk after the Lions win.
Let him enjoy his summer.
Or burn him!!!
Let him enjoy his summer.
Or burn him!!!
Garbage article
That's silly. Why on earth should United spend over the odds for rejects and bench warmers when better players are going for similar prices? Its up to the manager to be reasonable and bring in players who offer value for money. Haven't we learnt anything from Fellaini's and Bastian's signings?
I agree with all you just said. Woodward has contributed our problem in terms of price hike. He boasted in 2014 we can do things other teams can only dream of etc. He has built a rod for his own back.
Apparently, because our current manager wants those rejects and bench warmers, the same guy who chose those four mildly successful signings last season.
Jose is crazy if he thinks we should pay £50m for Perisic or £90m for Morata.
How does Woody feel pressure from this? I doubt he reads the fecking internet regarding himself. It's probably the worst thing a famous person can do. Unless its like your obituary and they jumped the gun like they do sometimes. Then it's okay.
I would not be surprised if it's true. Told it million times, we are not good about closing a deals. One good summer didn't change that.
This is exactly what I saw coming.
IMO, Ed has been unable to sign any of the first or second choice names on Jose's transfer wishlist apart from Lindelof.
I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if Jose is gone by Xmas. If things don't kick on the window, I can see him languishing around 6th again by Xmas and publicly shaming the board for failing him in the transfer market.
IMO, Ed has been unable to sign any of the first or second choice names on Jose's transfer wishlist apart from Lindelof.
I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if Jose is gone by Xmas. If things don't kick on the window, I can see him languishing around 6th again by Xmas and publicly shaming the board for failing him in the transfer market.
GriezOFF put us in a difficult spot. Not knowing CL status to the last day obviously complicated things.
That said, the biggest problem has been targetting players Real are in no rush to sell (Morata and, apparently, James).
They are a circus yes, but there's also the prior relationship. It wouldn't surprise me if Florentino, fully aware of how Mourinho wants his players before preseason, is deliberately dilly dallying to troll him.
That said, the biggest problem has been targetting players Real are in no rush to sell (Morata and, apparently, James).
They are a circus yes, but there's also the prior relationship. It wouldn't surprise me if Florentino, fully aware of how Mourinho wants his players before preseason, is deliberately dilly dallying to troll him.
Maybe Woodward is waiting for an embargo on the stock market to be lifted?
Jose should have just took to Instagram and posted a picture of a jewish kid at Xmas. That'd have the trick.
Yeah I don't think we can underestimate the impact of Atletico's ban or that we were a cup final loss away from Europa League football again next season.
Pretty much my take on the transfer window so far. I think post Griezman we had to re think our entire strategy and implement plan B
Fixed. And i assume you have alternatives to both, so if those two are too expensive, why aren't you moving on?
The transfer window has been slow in general, hasn't it.
Not just with us. Hope it all gets sorted soon either way.
Not just with us. Hope it all gets sorted soon either way.
That is a very good point tbf, it's usually either total conviction in Mourinho and his methods, or a complete breakdown in executive relationships! Let's hope Ed is just trying to play hardball with other clubs regarding the deals and it is not a battle of wills between the board and Jose.
You don't have a clue if we aren't.
There haven't been any rumours regarding alternatives to Perisic, no one has any idea and in case of Morata, it's Belotti who has a release clause of 100m.
As is usually the case, look closely enough and you'll see Mourinho is the one being an unreasonable tit. Clubs have to be willing to sell. If they aren't, or they want loads more money, and your best negotiating advice is "Just pay whatever they want, Ed", then you're not really offering much.
So let me get this straight.
If you are anti Mourinho, this story must be true, because it vindicates your opinion that Mourinho is a dick and is antagonizing everyone in the club seeding his own downfall.
If you are anti Woodward, this story must be true, because it vindicates your opinion that Woodward is clueless and an utter failure in the transfer market and must be replaced with a director of football.
So either way, this story would appeal to everyone.
Wow. Seems Duncan Castles is smarter than we give him credit for.
If you are anti Mourinho, this story must be true, because it vindicates your opinion that Mourinho is a dick and is antagonizing everyone in the club seeding his own downfall.
If you are anti Woodward, this story must be true, because it vindicates your opinion that Woodward is clueless and an utter failure in the transfer market and must be replaced with a director of football.
So either way, this story would appeal to everyone.
Wow. Seems Duncan Castles is smarter than we give him credit for.
good lord so you are saying that Jose was upset with transfers at the end of the season, after all that is what this thread is about. You have been whining and crying like a little spoiled child since the season ended. You either have to be wumming or are just very young and this is your first ever transfer window.
Also a quote from you from earlier in the thread.
Which proves your comment about it not being about Castle and the other journo to be a 100% lie. So on top of everything else you can't even keep track of what you yourself post.
We need a director of football. Woodward is too much like Florentine Perez in who he wants
They are José's targets ffs.
Sounds like Castles is winding up the fans.
If Jose is annoyed though, he'd better keep that shit out of the media. That's not where it belongs.
Evidence shows that Ed will get the transfers done, as he's already demonstrated as recently as last season. The only reason things might be going slow would be due to circumstances out of his control.
If Jose wants certain targets, he might consider first of all, not to choose anyone from Real Madrid for eg, as he knows Perez is a cnut and very difficult to deal with.
Lastly, every club would love to have all their main targets in before pre-season, but the reality is it's not always possible as we're not the only ones in control of whether or not the transfer goes through. Furthermore, if the manager wants us to overpay for the underwhelming targets we're hearing about, then I don't blame Woody for standing firm (if that is happening).
If Jose is annoyed though, he'd better keep that shit out of the media. That's not where it belongs.
Evidence shows that Ed will get the transfers done, as he's already demonstrated as recently as last season. The only reason things might be going slow would be due to circumstances out of his control.
If Jose wants certain targets, he might consider first of all, not to choose anyone from Real Madrid for eg, as he knows Perez is a cnut and very difficult to deal with.
Lastly, every club would love to have all their main targets in before pre-season, but the reality is it's not always possible as we're not the only ones in control of whether or not the transfer goes through. Furthermore, if the manager wants us to overpay for the underwhelming targets we're hearing about, then I don't blame Woody for standing firm (if that is happening).
Let s completely ignore the fact that Woodward is the CEO of a bussiness, and his primary concern is keeping the board happy and the investors' pockets full, investors who have had rather low subcidies ( spelling ) for the last 2 years and are probably causing quite a bit of a stirr so woodward is in no condition to pay over the odds for every single player ( despite the " just give them what they want " posts, that would add to more than 30 mils each window)
Lets also completely ignore the fact that the window is moving at a snails pace and no major transfers have yet to b completed by any teams.
Other things that neex ignoring:
-we are targeting players from teams as ri h as we are, and in no desperation to sell before acquiring their own targets.
-Jose is probably not idiotic enough to put woody under significantly more pressure especially showing our desperation to the clubs we re trying to negotiate with.
-Woodward has been a massive success in his career ( he managed to buy manchester united for the glazers despite them not having half of the needed money and he made us a worlwide money generating machine ).
-by the words of my betters, duncan castles is a bold headed c#nt used intermittenly by mendes for his own gain.
Lets also completely ignore the fact that the window is moving at a snails pace and no major transfers have yet to b completed by any teams.
Other things that neex ignoring:
-we are targeting players from teams as ri h as we are, and in no desperation to sell before acquiring their own targets.
-Jose is probably not idiotic enough to put woody under significantly more pressure especially showing our desperation to the clubs we re trying to negotiate with.
-Woodward has been a massive success in his career ( he managed to buy manchester united for the glazers despite them not having half of the needed money and he made us a worlwide money generating machine ).
-by the words of my betters, duncan castles is a bold headed c#nt used intermittenly by mendes for his own gain.
From Mou's perspective, he's given a list with, one must assume, several options for every position of need
Surely, they can't *all* be too expensive. If they are, there's something wrong with either Mou or the people in charge, and certainly between the two parties