Duncan Castles : Jose Mourinho on collision course with Ed Woodward over Manchester United transfers
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It was clear that before the season had even ended Mourinho was playing media games with Woodward.
He emphasised on more than one occasion that he's selected his targets and the process is out of his hands now.
It was almost as if he was trying to put pressure on Woodward.
He emphasised on more than one occasion that he's selected his targets and the process is out of his hands now.
It was almost as if he was trying to put pressure on Woodward.
Couldn't care less what the bald, obnoxious fecker writes. He's obsessed with Mourinho and it's really getting creepy now.
The list obviously exists but names are confidential for a reason.
The list obviously exists but names are confidential for a reason.
you could say he threw him under a bus
Not being funny - but if Jose wanted the transfer business to be easier, he shouldn't have finished 6th. That has a part to play here
Another day brings another need to write another article...how many "Morata deal very close" can you write everyday before your editor tells you to sort it out! and come up with a different story.
United are the richest club in the world so when clubs get the call, the chairmen think all their christmases have come at once.
It will be a few more weeks yet before Woody hits the panic button, he and the club still have loads of time to negotiate somewhat sensibly.
Alas Don't Panic
United are the richest club in the world so when clubs get the call, the chairmen think all their christmases have come at once.
It will be a few more weeks yet before Woody hits the panic button, he and the club still have loads of time to negotiate somewhat sensibly.
Alas Don't Panic
I'm not going to be surprised if the main reason of this lack of transfer activity mainly because Griezmann decided to change his mind and we moved to our backup option which is Morata, but Morata didn't want to talk about transfer since he had a plan for married and was on his honeymoon. I would have done the same thing if I am in Morata's situation, fully enjoy my life with my wife on my honeymoon. My guess is that Woody has talked with Morata's agent but the agent hasn't tell anything to Morata himself until the honeymoon is over. Once Morata make the decision that he will leave then we can start the negotiation with Real.
We probably already had negotiation or talks with the other targets but I think Woody would like to get the striker done first since striker is Jose's top list. And obviously if we end up spend too much on the other targets, we might end up not be able to afford striker.
Lindelof deal is too easy IMO. We probably already had agreement with the player himself in January. The money that we spent is likely probably from the Morgan and Memphis fees that we received.
I won't be surprised once Morata has make his decision (let's say if he wants to leave), then we will start put our offer to Real, when it's done and we can confirm that we sign him, Woody is probably going with pace and sign another player or two more and people will start talking great things about him again.
What are you on about? I meant I thought that at the end of the season if Woody hadn't got the players Jose wanted by the time we went on tour I.e. End of this week. I didn't have that much faith in Woody and it didn't appear that Jose did either, from his body language when he was talking about the list that he'd given Ed "since March". Please don't call me a liar.
I don't believe for one second that "nothing is being done for new transfers" no one at the club who is responsible for signings is that stupid or suicidal.
It's going to be a long season if we don't get the signings we need. With the exception of City (who probably had agreements already in place), none of our other rivals have strengthened either. It's been a strange window this one so far. Maybe one big transfer will spark some movement?
It's going to be a long season if we don't get the signings we need. With the exception of City (who probably had agreements already in place), none of our other rivals have strengthened either. It's been a strange window this one so far. Maybe one big transfer will spark some movement?
You've agreed terms with Morata for weeks, and the player already told Madrid he wants to leave, weeks ago
This hold up is all down to United being too far from Madrid's demands, yet
This hold up is all down to United being too far from Madrid's demands, yet
I would imagine that while the transfer ban changed our plans it did not catch us by surprise. While many journo's and posters did forget about it, the club was probably well aware of the chances of it happening. So yeah it meant switching gears, but if it caught the club by surprise, I would be surprised.
I doubt the CL issue made much of a difference either, initial contacts could have been made regardless of our status, and we would have had contingency plans anyways.
Whatever. It will be good if at least 1 more player joins in for the preseason, preferably that player being Morata. Our new striker is going to have to deal with the burden of high expectation from the get go and sparing games as well as loads of training sessions should help him adapt faster.
Conte and Pepe are not going around b!tching and using the media for their agenda. Sure they are strengthening, but they are not using the media to make excuses ahead of time in case they fail.
There is not a single club where this "doesn't matter". The idea that there is a business operation on this earth that can just spend whatever it is being quoted without a care in the world is something that is beyond ludicrous outside of football manager.
Honestly, how does that pressure Woodie? I mean it sounds like it is pretty much normal business. the manager puts together his list and then the guy in charge of doing the deals, gets to work. I am going to guess, that Woodie was aware he had the list and was aware of what his role in the transfer window is, so not sure he would really feel anymore pressure because suddenly Jose told the press what was pretty common knowledge already.
I mean how do people think it works? That a manager keeps his wants a big secret and only shares when he feels like it as the summer ticks by?
How do you know Jose is? I mean this story started from a DeBrun piece in which he just stated it was his opinion that Jose might be getting upset. Next thing you know we have journo's and posters here formulating a full blown crisis.
Isn't it just as likely that the journo's are making this shit up and people are falling for it hook, line and sinker?
Yeah the same Conte who all journalists including the same Duncan Castles reported he's angry and willing to leave if his targets aren't secured.
Sorry don't agree dev, Jose has never worked that way, and we all knew that before we hired him. Jose wants who he wants and he doesn't give a toss how much the club have to pay to get him what he needs. Tbf he has usually delivered under those circumstances too. He will not look at resale value or anything else, he knows what he wants and he backs himself to deliver when he gets it. It's him who will fall on the sword if he gets it wrong, so why would he compromise himself into agreeing to a scenario that he doesn't have total conviction in? Utd knew this beforehand and have to either fully accept it, or tell him right from the off that he would not have complete control over transfers before we brought him in, which i very much doubt that they did.
Jose's remit will surely have been to get us back to the top, i cannot accept that he has taken the job knowing his ability to do the job his way may be hampered at any time by execs expressing concerns over potential transfer fees or targets that they don't feel represent value for money. They backed his judgement last season, and he delivered everything that was asked for and more. So why suddenly change that policy now when the only possible outcome is to hinder our progress and undoubtedly cause friction within the club?
Abso-fecking-lutely
Apart from all the stories regarding Conte thinking of leaving as Chelsea were not doing anything in the market.
Not sure what gives anyone in this thread an ounce of confidence that Woodward can be trusted in these situations.
All of the evidence (which there is 5 years of now) points to the contrary.
All of the evidence (which there is 5 years of now) points to the contrary.
Maureen has already b!tched about his own players already. He specifically mentioned that he has handed his transfer targets to Woody with options A, B, C and whatever. That is placing the pressure squarely on the shoulders of Woody.
Good point.
He's still at Chelsea the last I heard.
Cant afford to have issue between Ed and Jose, hopefully signings are happening this week and we can get the players in before the squad leaves for preseason.
Jose's still at United too, so ?!
Come back to me with that when he has left Chelsea.
So in other words, Jose did exactly what he is supposed to do, gave Woodie his list of players and Woodie is now trying to do the job that has been his for several summers now. In others words, nothing different this summer from previous ones.
If Utd are being asked to pay €130m for Perisic and Morata it's no surprise we haven't got the players Jose wants in time.
I didn't mention anything about Maureen wanting to leave, so why are you bring that up?. I am hoping Woody has the courage to tell him to feck off if he creates a drama
I agree, I don't think that has helped but apart from City, no one has really be able to sign the players they wanted so far this window.
Just an FYI, if you want to know the actual source for all this Jose leaving BS, it is not Duncan and his "direct line" to Jose, it is something that de Brun made up a few days ago. No surprise that other journo's have hopped on board, great click bait after all.
You might look at the thread title then and understand the context of the conversations being had here.
It's a dilemma.
Either we overpay by significant amounts just to get the players in before pre-season. That has the benefit of being more prepared for the season, but also the downside of being taken for fools to a larger degree on every future transfer.
Or we take a risk and refuse to budge to unreasonable demands and hope that we can still get the players we need before the season starts.
There's no good choice here.
Either we overpay by significant amounts just to get the players in before pre-season. That has the benefit of being more prepared for the season, but also the downside of being taken for fools to a larger degree on every future transfer.
Or we take a risk and refuse to budge to unreasonable demands and hope that we can still get the players we need before the season starts.
There's no good choice here.
Woah, what a fecking madman Jose is, how dare he.
I bet rest of the CEOs, DOFs and other people responsible for transfers at other clubs are mind-reading their managers instead.
Oooops
Why should we give in to Madrid's 'demands'??????? You're overcharging for a bench warmer, and you don't us to negotiate? I guarantee you if it were the other way around, we wouldn't be taking the piss.
Dave is different as he's a world class goal keeper and it's not in our interests to let you have him for peanuts - so our stance on that is fair. However, how can you think Morata is worth 90M euros or whatever it is?
That's how it's supposed to work, but Woody can only do so much if other clubs are not willing to sell their player's or are charging United 2-3 times the price. Maureen needs to back up his CEO without running behind his back to the press.
You said Conte isn't pitching in the market about his targets not secured and when we told you that exactly what happened all journalists reported that he's willing to leave and very angry of Chelsea not doing anything in the market and he's about to crash with Roman on transfers, your replay was he didn't leave ?!
So you're willing to not believe all reports about Conte but will happily believe the same reports from the same journalists about Jose because you just hate the man, precious really.
Good job.
Wonder why controversy generally aims itself in Jose's direction. This augurs badly for the club in what is undoubtedly a damn crucial season for us. I wonder if Jose's "It's all upto Woodward' statement was putting it out there and hinting at his doubt over a good transfer window.