Yes, but I think Rooney has been worth the money - that's how I would have argued the point.
But you seem to think that a top player is only worth £20m tops, which would mean Rooney would have had to be Messi-like to be worth £27m.
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But you seem to think that a top player is only worth £20m tops, which would mean Rooney would have had to be Messi-like to be worth £27m.
Interesting to see people aren't even reading posts any more. Worst offenders being 'senior' types.
How is there any argument about that? He's scored loads of goals, been a talismanic figure and for at least 2 seasons basically carried the club.
Anderson was 23 a couple of months ago. Not many centre midfielders are the finished article by then. He has been inconsistent, but he's also put in plenty of good performances. Also, I don't think he cost as much as that, certainly not before add-ons, though it's never been clear.
Do you sometimes realise how daft you come across at times?
If you're Cnut, there's a massive argument.
You're spot on there, it would appear around 70 did the trick!
Your stand is irrelavent - even asking the question was daft.
I've never said that top players are worth max £20m.
Apparently we paid £15m each for him and Nani + add-ons.
Gillespie (another Arsenal fan) once said that Rooney was "finished" at 21 years old
They must be giving them something in the water down at the Emirates
They must be giving them something in the water down at the Emirates
Well it certainly isn't success!
OK - I said Rooney was worth the money - I merely stated that if Cnut thinks that top players go for £20m tops then Rooney at £27m would appear over-priced. Don't let me stop you from trying to be clever without actually reading posts though.
Top players can go for less than £20m and for more than £20m.
Dunno what that's got to do with the Carroll transfer though, seeing as he's not a top player.
You stated it after the fact
Everyone else responded to your question whether Rooney was worth the money
Potentially a top player though.
When was the last time Stewart Downing was mentioned?
Post 296.
2 seasons ago i think
Because I'm not convinced you watch anyone except United.
Just finished watching Viking vs Rosenborg.
That point didn't actually have anything to do with Welbeck whatsoever. The point you seemed to be making was that it's a very real possibility that Carroll could go on to score 25 PL goals a season (compared to someone who's levels below like Santa Cruz).
Yes, it's just the 'senior' posters not reading things these days...
Unfortunately, Stewart Downing is simply too average to be able to command a thread of his own.
According to Al, he is not even decent, as he is not likely to cost £20m.
Some positions command higher prices than others. A decent goalkeeper doesn't cost £20m.
Ah, sp you meant decent strikers, not decent players...?
I might have said players, but the conversation was about strikers, and thus that was what I thought was implied.
Rooney's transfer was years ago, and he was widely touted by an admittedly sensationalist media as 'The White Pele'! While he has obviously not lived up to such an elaborate billing, i think it's fairly reasonable to suggest he has been widely acknowledged by the vast majority of the footballing world as a world class footballer for quite a number of years.
Carroll cannot reasonably be assumed to be anything more than a promising, young centre forward, and i certainly don't recall anyone singling him out as a potential world beater. Liverpool were simply desperate to land a CF after selling Torres and subsequently paid well over the odds, considering the level of talent he had shown up to that point.
I do agree that most of the top players will now go for extortionate amounts due to the consistently excessive fees paid by Madrid, Chelsea and now City. Maybe the fair play initiative being introduced next season will force some sanity back into the market, if we're lucky!
To be honest, it is hard to gather what you are implying, at the best of times.
Downing and Carroll will be a decent combination this season.
Should get them 5th-6th place, yes.
I've never really rated Downing.
I think he's decent, certainly not good enough for United.
I honestly hope posters don't want him here because it would be taking the transfer muppetry too far.
We don't have to sign everything that moves.
I think he's decent, certainly not good enough for United.
I honestly hope posters don't want him here because it would be taking the transfer muppetry too far.
We don't have to sign everything that moves.
He goes on the same pile as SWP, Lennon, Milner, Young and Johnson. All wildly hyped at one time but settled down to mid-table mediocrity.
Funny though, all but one of them are now playing for top-3 clubs. Unlike Arsenal
hehe, It's just like you to include Young.
He's got a bit more potential still but essentially that's what he deserves on what he's shown so far.
Good list but you forgot about Walcott.
To be fair, there isn't much difference between the likes of Lennon, Young and Johnson. Although, calling them mid-table mediocrity is just usual hyperbole from Storey.
I reckon Walcott will be added to the list in a couple years.
I reckon Walcott will be added to the list in a couple years.
Walcott is not a winger.