Douglas Costa

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Oh I know, I'm not doubting the lad's ability - I've got no reason to - but I'm just not sure what there is to talk about that's worthwhile spending time on.

Was there a lot of hype when Ronaldo signed?

Not really no, Youtube was not around back then and dail up was a mutha fecka!
 
Costa - "I Dream Of Manchester United transfer"

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=656135&cc=5739



Sounds like a possibility, to be honest. I've not seen anything of him other than that Youtube video, where he predictably looks to be a bit of a footballing demon. Any Brazilian football viewers here?

I wouldn't do such things unless you want to get banned. Read the sticky in the transfer forum, Sultan makes it pretty clear not to post up Wind ups. :nono:
 
Costa price too high - agent
Gremio could price reported United target out of move

By Jon Cotterill Last updated: 22nd June 2009

Manchester United are unlikely to meet Gremio's asking price for Douglas Costa, according to the player's agent.

The highly-rated Brazilian is believed to be a target for United, as the Premier League champions eye a replacement for Real Madrid-bound Cristiano Ronaldo.

Costa's representative, Cesar Bottega, claims "informal talks" have been held but feels Gremio could price the 18-year-old out of a deal.

"I don't believe that they (Manchester United) will reach this figure," Bottega told Porto Alegre newspaper Zero Hora.

"Right now, an offer might come in at a maximum of £6.7million. But this would not be enough for [Gremio] president Duda Kroeff."

Brazilian club Gremio are believed to be holding out for a fee in the region of £20million.
 
£20m is too high for promising 18 year old player and it's good that even Costa's agent agrees, they (agents) always seem to be cnuts, so it's good to see someone who's different.

I think £6.7m is really good price for him, but no more than £10m.
 
To be fair, Gremio's stance may have been influenced by the fact that they sold Anderson to Porto for something in the region of £3.6m (or something similar), and then Porto sold him within a year-and-a-half to United for a large profit. I don't think that Anderson was fully owned by Gremio, and United certainly didn't pay the £17m that was reported — it was more likely £8m, + add-ons based on success, rising to £17m — but they obviously don't want to allow a player to leave for such a paltry sum, again.
 
Oh I know, I'm not doubting the lad's ability - I've got no reason to - but I'm just not sure what there is to talk about that's worthwhile spending time on.

Was there a lot of hype when Ronaldo signed?

I wouldn't say there was A LOT of hype, but most of us were chuffed that we signed him based on his performace against us. Prior to that, Quaresma and CR9 were the two highly rated kids at Sporting - so, he didn't completely come out of the blue. That said none of us imagined in our wildest dreams that he'd go on to become the player he is - if they tell you otherwise, they're lying.
 
To be fair, Gremio's stance may have been influenced by the fact that they sold Anderson to Porto for something in the region of £3.6m (or something similar), and then Porto sold him within a year-and-a-half to United for a large profit. I don't think that Anderson was fully owned by Gremio, and United certainly didn't pay the £17m that was reported — it was more likely £8m, + add-ons based on success, rising to £17m — but they obviously don't want to allow a player to leave for such a paltry sum, again.

Come on Gremio aren't dumb!! Around 30% of the Anderson deal probably went to Gremio which is why it was probably so high. There's only a certain amount they can demand regardless because of the players age and also the league he is playing in. He's not at the Robinho level (sold for around £22m) so i don't think they will be too unrealistic.
 
purely depends how highly rated he is by the united staff. but if there was any season we were going to pay over the odds for a player, which we usually do, this is it! so you never know, some compromise may be met.
 
I wouldn't say there was A LOT of hype, but most of us were chuffed that we signed him based on his performace against us. Prior to that, Quaresma and CR9 were the two highly rated kids at Sporting - so, he didn't completely come out of the blue. That said none of us imagine on our wildest dreams that he'd go on to become the player he is - if they tell you otherwise, they're lying.

Yeah that's what I would've thought, that he made a big impact with how he played against us in that pre-season game, but there wasn't an inordinate amount of hype.

And yeah, no-one could've expected him to become that good, his level of improvement here in just a couple of years was staggering.
 
I wouldn't say there was A LOT of hype, but most of us were chuffed that we signed him based on his performace against us. Prior to that, Quaresma and CR9 were the two highly rated kids at Sporting - so, he didn't completely come out of the blue. That said none of us imagine on our wildest dreams that he'd go on to become the player he is - if they tell you otherwise, they're lying.

Erm.... I did!! But i knew of him before we even played them in a friendly, still to this day haven't watched that game either. Yes your right him and Quaresma were hot property but i wont lie didn't really seem him as being greater than Quaresma although i also thought Quaresma would have turned out great but he never. Actually wanted him to replace Beckham.
 
Yeah that's what I would've thought, that he made a big impact with how he played against us in that pre-season game, but there wasn't an inordinate amount of hype.

And yeah, no-one could've expected him to become that good, his level of improvement here in just a couple of years was staggering.

Fergie had him pencilled in for the following season - but that performance prompted him. Not sure we've still got first refusal on Sporting players.
 
Yeah that's what I would've thought, that he made a big impact with how he played against us in that pre-season game, but there wasn't an inordinate amount of hype.

And yeah, no-one could've expected him to become that good, his level of improvement here in just a couple of years was staggering.

let's play Gremio in a pre-season friendly!!;)
 
Erm.... I did!! But i knew of him before we even played them in a friendly, still to this day haven't watched that game either. Yes your right him and Quaresma were hot property but i wont lie didn't really seem him as being greater than Quaresma although i also thought Quaresma would have turned out great but he never. Actually wanted him to replace Beckham.

Yes, some people were aware of a young Ronaldo kid with immense talent at Sporting - but not many had actually seen him play. As for Quaresma, he's 2 years older than Ronaldo which is why he looked a better player at time. We had the chance to sign Quaresma, and I was surprised we didn't sign him. Guess the management know a little more than us.
 
Yeah that's what I would've thought, that he made a big impact with how he played against us in that pre-season game, but there wasn't an inordinate amount of hype.

And yeah, no-one could've expected him to become that good, his level of improvement here in just a couple of years was staggering.

No there was, just obviously us normal people don't really know whats been talked about at youth level. But when he made his debut at 16 everyone expected great things. If you had watched the U 18's tournment that him, i think it was they same one that had Menez, Ben Arfa, Nasri etc in aswell. They where all talking about him being hot property.
 
Fergie had him pencilled in for the following season - but that performance prompted him. Not sure we've still got first refusal on Sporting players.

I've heard that bit, but I'd heard that Chelsea, Arsenal, Madrid and Liverpool all showing interest in him contributed a bit to us buying him a season early too.

let's play Gremio in a pre-season friendly!!;)

Heh, I don't see why not!
 
I've heard that bit, but I'd heard that Chelsea, Arsenal, Madrid and Liverpool all showing interest in him contributed a bit to us buying him a season early too.



Heh, I don't see why not!

Nah, I think we had first refusal, regardless.
 
Costa price too high - agent
Gremio could price reported United target out of move

By Jon Cotterill Last updated: 22nd June 2009

Manchester United are unlikely to meet Gremio's asking price for Douglas Costa, according to the player's agent.

The highly-rated Brazilian is believed to be a target for United, as the Premier League champions eye a replacement for Real Madrid-bound Cristiano Ronaldo.

Costa's representative, Cesar Bottega, claims "informal talks" have been held but feels Gremio could price the 18-year-old out of a deal.

"I don't believe that they (Manchester United) will reach this figure," Bottega told Porto Alegre newspaper Zero Hora.

"Right now, an offer might come in at a maximum of £6.7million. But this would not be enough for [Gremio] president Duda Kroeff."

Brazilian club Gremio are believed to be holding out for a fee in the region of £20million.

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11095_5396265,00.html
 
Come on Gremio aren't dumb!! Around 30% of the Anderson deal probably went to Gremio which is why it was probably so high. There's only a certain amount they can demand regardless because of the players age and also the league he is playing in. He's not at the Robinho level (sold for around £22m) so i don't think they will be too unrealistic.

You make a good point, although you have also inadvertently made Gremio's argument for them. They knew that Anderson would likely be sold within, at most, three or four years. That cannot be said of a player that they sell to United, so any deal involving a "percentage of next sale clause" may never result in an increased fee, overall. Gremio probably feel that they need to make the maximum amount from United in any potential deal.
 
From The Times (does this give the story some respectability)?

United to sign 'new Cristiano Ronaldo'


Douglas, 18, has been closely monitored by United for more than a year


Manchester United have opened talks with Grêmio about signing Douglas Costa, their highly rated Brazil Under-20 attacking midfield player, as Sir Alex Ferguson steps up his search for the new Cristiano Ronaldo.

Douglas, 18, has been closely monitored by United for more than a year, but despite interest from a host of leading European clubs including Real Madrid and Inter Milan, Ferguson is confident of signing the player this summer as the Barclays Premier League champions continue to look to Brazil for potential stars of the future.

As well as signing Anderson, the Brazil midfield player, from Porto in July 2007, United have plucked three Brazilian players — the Da Silva twins, Rafael and Fábio, and Rodrigo Possebon — from relative obscurity in the past two years.

John Calvert-Toulmin, United’s principal scout in Brazil, recommended that Ferguson sign Douglas last summer, but the manager has opted to wait until now to make his move. Douglas is rumoured to have a £21 million release clause in his contract with Grêmio, which has four years left to run, but United hope to secure him for less than that. Any deal would be dependent on the player getting a work permit.

Douglas, who is left-footed and has been likened to his compatriot, Ronaldinho, the AC Milan forward, underlined his burgeoning potential this year when he helped Brazil to victory in the South American Youth Championship.

“There have been informal conversations and I believe United would match those values,” Cesar Bottega, Douglas’s agent, said yesterday. “At the end of the Brasileirão [the South American league championship that ends in December], Douglas will be worth at least twice that.”

United are also understood to have agreed a £5.5 million deal with Corinthians for Dodô, a 17-year-old defender who is expected to join the club next February, although given that he has a Portuguese background and holds an EU passport, that proposed transfer is not expected to be complicated by red tape.

Carlos Alberto, Brazil’s World Cup-winning captain in 1970, accused United this month of “raping Brazilian football” and has urged Fifa, the sport’s world governing body, to intervene to prevent the country’s most promising young players from being lured away by Europe’s leading clubs, but United are proud of their expanding operation in South America.

As well as employing two full-time scouts in Brazil, United secured a deal last year with Desportivo Brasil, a youth club owned by Traffic Football Management and a subsidiary of the largest sports agency in Latin America, that gives them first option on more than 120 teenagers whose development in São Paulo is being overseen by Carlos Alberto Parreira, the country’s 1994 World Cup-winning coach.
 
It's basically everything we've heard in the last two weeks, combined into one article and making it look very informative... though it reveals nothing new.
 
Carlos Alberto, Brazil’s World Cup-winning captain in 1970, accused United this month of “raping Brazilian football”

Raking?
 
I would be happy with Douglas Costa, Valencia and Benzema, it sounds ridiculous but its a possibility. cock on keyboard time
 
Torres and Benzema, now you're being greedy.

Benzema, Valencia and Costa would be ideal. 3 young players with huge potential and desire to suceed.

Damn right. They were top of my wishlist too a few days ago.

We could potentially buy these 3 players from just the Ronaldo money alone. That to me would be a fantastic investiment and will push the team forward not backwards.
 
17 million euro's tops. robinho went to madrid for 23-24 from santos when he was 21. this lad (mind you i want to see him at united) is no where near he level robinho was when he left so all this talk of 20 million quid is bollocks.
 
I think Gremios evaluation will drop

How often do players' release clauses get paid completely?
 
Four days ago his agent was saying that United would match the figure wanted by Gremio, now he has they are not going to match it.

Going from 20 million pounds to a 6.7 million pound offer is weird.
 
why is his agent talking .. are we seriously interested

this isnt the .. clubs are interested , give him a new contract ..


time for the removal of my .....
 
So in 1 article his agent says United cannot match his fee while in the other article he says United can match the fee.

I am confused?
 
I bloody hate the media transfer bollocks. Could be worse, we could have to put up with Marca in this country.

O wait, we still have to.
 
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