And then there are players like Fred and Dalot who at first couldn't get a game at all and are now starting for us. Point being there's no need to generalize on a few examples.
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And then there are players like Fred and Dalot who at first couldn't get a game at all and are now starting for us. Point being there's no need to generalize on a few examples.
To be fair there was never the same amount of fan obsession with either of those as there was with Kagawa, Mkhitaryan or even Perieira at one point but yes, some players do turn it around under different managers. Fair point.
Fred had a thread on here "why did we buy Fred?" and I do think there was some pressure. Not as much as #freeKagawa but still. Dalot to a lesser extent.
Looking forward to Everton game
Me too. Will be routing for him
If he’s good at Everton or Tony in Spain, not sure it tells us anything we didn’t know. Both are good players but there is a difference playing here than for most teams, the shirt just fits differently and comes with the weight of expectation. I can’t remember many senior players going out on loan and coming back to do well at their respectful club.
I'm surprised he can't afford a sat nav.
Not in the Everton squad today?
Cup-tied.
He is cup tied, won't play
I think the main difference is that Tony has had plenty of chances whereas Donny hasn’t.
He def didn’t and should have got more, that is no doubt. Still an absolute mystery why he didn’t and I could only put it down to his competition was Bruno and not Fred or Scott.
We must understand why Ole and Ralf refused to give Donny a proper chance: United simply have too much quality in midfield already.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/man-utd-van-de-beek-26136570
"In the end, it’s a question of competition," explained Rangnick when asked about the Dutchman's omission.
"Like Paul Pogba, I see him in the centre of midfield as one of the 6 or 8 positions and we have quite a few other good players in those positions, therefore he didn’t get much game-time.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/man-utd-van-de-beek-26136570
"In the end, it’s a question of competition," explained Rangnick when asked about the Dutchman's omission.
"Like Paul Pogba, I see him in the centre of midfield as one of the 6 or 8 positions and we have quite a few other good players in those positions, therefore he didn’t get much game-time.
They seem pretty impressed with him on an Everton forum, after his sub appearance.
A couple of highlights from the posts: “ Should start every game “ “best player on the pitch “
https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/donny-van-de-beek.114474/
A couple of highlights from the posts: “ Should start every game “ “best player on the pitch “
https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/donny-van-de-beek.114474/
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Just 30 minutes tonight, once he's finished with this loan spell it's probably best for United and the player to let him go back to Ajax.
Just!? Poor lad must be knackered.
The passes at 39 and 1:17 were good.
Starting today. Really hope he manages to do well. I remain unconvinced though.
Had big hand in Everton's first goal.
Playing in a midfield 2 by the looks of it.
Mind boggling that Ole and Ralf refused to give Donny a proper chance. Maybe he is shit in training, but in competitive play he’s vastly superior to McTominay. Putting in a great shift under Frank right now.
Nice to see him starting and doing well. The energy from that Everton team is something.
DvB has been brilliant so far. His technique and football brain are so far ahead of everyone else.
He's had a good half. Good involvement for the first goal. Other than that been fairly quiet, but he has done what's been asked of him. Seems to be playing very deep though, not that much involved in the final third.
I for the life of me can’t understand why he’s been so badly treated at United
Glad to see he is doing well. I stepped away from the game for a bit.
What does this say about Ole and now ,arguably more importantly, Ralf if Beek is a success in midfield for Everton ?
Flashes a a decent player and people asking if RR knows what he’s doing. This place man.
McTominay plays like Zidane against Leeds if we want a comparison.
stop it mate, stop; this hurts. we know he is good, we just don’t understand why he wasn’t given a fair chance when it was only Fred or Mctominay who we would’ve dropped.
Played well, faded a bit in the second half, put that down to match fitness but a good solid performance, with lots of composed play. He doesn't have an expansive passing range but he is good at the short stuff and when around the box he takes up good positions, and the willingness to get his foot in will be appreciated by their fans.
He's got 23% of the votes for Motm on the Everton forum. Sounds like he had a good game
Outstanding today for Everton.
Ralph knew with pogba Fernandes and lingard he needed to play elsewhere.
The thing with Van de Beek is that Everton is probably his level. Will be nice to see him play as an 8 properly and not be asked to be a 10... But for United's needs, he's not the sort of player we need as our 8. Regardless how he does. He can be a good player but the wrong player stylistically for our needs.
I see your point, but don’t we need players like Donny right now who can pass and now while we rebuild the squad to the level we expect?
Stylistically, we’re pretty shit this season.
He's a player who is always moving and looking for the forward pass. Surely he fits us a lot more than some of the static and clumsy players we've got in the team?
United fans on here keep saying it is the players. We have a lot of quality players and dvdb is showing that again just like Lingard did at west ham last season.I reckon he came in and scoffed at the way we played under Ole, he seems to demand to play the he wants/has learnt to play. That got the coaches backs up and they refused to play him. By the time Ralf came in, his not match fit, and fighting behind pogba, mct and Fred.
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