What a tease, get Clara's clothes off!
Television Doctor Who
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Clara knows his name
Oh do feck off with that Amelia Pond shite already.
Not a massive fan of this normally but always watch it at Christmas. Thought Marty Mcfly was going to make an appearance, that's all I could think about for a while.
Could not hear shit throughout the episode cause my 3 year old nephew being on the hype train. Brother puts him to bed as soon as Doctor Who finishes...
I always hated my brother.
I always hated my brother.
Was decent but felt a little too rushed. Would have been better over two or even three episodes to provide some level of build up.
Aye, it's always difficult to portray hundreds of years passing in one single hour, and I don't think it was done very well here.
Peter fecking Capaldi though, 10 seconds of screen time and it was just glorious.
Right, I'm going to stick all of my thoughts in a spoiler, just to be on the safe side. There'll be stuff in there that isn't really spoilery, but might be sort of tied up with spoilers, so I think it's best that it all goes in there.
I enjoyed it, but not nearly as much as I feel I should have. If it was a normal episode of Doctor Who, as opposed to being the one where Matt Smith's Doctor finally regenerates, then I'd have been a lot happier with it. You could probably still keep it as a Christmas episode, and I'd have been more than happy with it, but because it's Matt's final episode, I just felt it needed more. More what, exactly, I'm not entirely sure.
There were a few things in there that I felt were supposed to be big moments, but left me feeling a little underwhelmed. Moffat gave us Daleks, Cybermen, Weeping Angels (for a few minutes, in a "well, I suppose we may as well put them in too" sort of way, and gave us The Silence as well. Or The Silents. Never been quite sure how that works. I didn't feel as excited for them as I felt I was supposed to, and I didn't for the crack, for Amy's cameo, for Clara's nan being River Song (I think).
The regeneration itself somehow managed to take a long time, and happen suddenly, which I suppose is commendable for a show that enjoys playing with time. I'm not sure how to get across how I saw it, but it was kind of like "drumroll...pause...drumroll...pause...drum...CAPALDI." I can only compare it to two previous regenerations (Eccleston and Tennant), and it fell somewhere between them in feel. Eccleston's regeneration, as I remember it, happened rather quickly, a brief goodbye to Rose, and that was it. Tennant went on The Doctor's World Farewell Tour, stopping off to see practically everyone he'd ever met. Matt's started Tennant in terms of looking like "he didn't want to go," and then went Eccleston as he CAPALDI'd.
Capaldi's appearance was far too brief to judge, and that's perfectly fine by me. I'm not sure if anyone will be disappointed because of that, wanting to have seen more of him, but I get that Moffat probably wants to introduce him to us slowly. We got a glimpse of him during the 50th, we got a line or two here, no point in ramming the whole chocolate bar down our throats when we can have it a little piece at a time.
I can't help but compare the episode to The Day of the Doctor somewhat, and I know that's unfair - TDotD had a longer run-time to work with, I would imagine a bigger budget, and basically it was the 50th Anniversary episode, it's bound to be more special than a Christmas episode, regeneration or no. The thing is, I absolutely loved that episode, and I think that whilst I may not be directly comparing the two episodes in terms of individual quality, I am still slightly caught up in that "50th hype," and so the Christmas special, as a return to "usual" Doctor Who was always going to be a bit of a comedown. Maybe, because of that, I'll watch this again at some point, without that feeling lurking around, and I'll enjoy it a lot more.
There were a few things in there that I felt were supposed to be big moments, but left me feeling a little underwhelmed. Moffat gave us Daleks, Cybermen, Weeping Angels (for a few minutes, in a "well, I suppose we may as well put them in too" sort of way, and gave us The Silence as well. Or The Silents. Never been quite sure how that works. I didn't feel as excited for them as I felt I was supposed to, and I didn't for the crack, for Amy's cameo, for Clara's nan being River Song (I think).
The regeneration itself somehow managed to take a long time, and happen suddenly, which I suppose is commendable for a show that enjoys playing with time. I'm not sure how to get across how I saw it, but it was kind of like "drumroll...pause...drumroll...pause...drum...CAPALDI." I can only compare it to two previous regenerations (Eccleston and Tennant), and it fell somewhere between them in feel. Eccleston's regeneration, as I remember it, happened rather quickly, a brief goodbye to Rose, and that was it. Tennant went on The Doctor's World Farewell Tour, stopping off to see practically everyone he'd ever met. Matt's started Tennant in terms of looking like "he didn't want to go," and then went Eccleston as he CAPALDI'd.
Capaldi's appearance was far too brief to judge, and that's perfectly fine by me. I'm not sure if anyone will be disappointed because of that, wanting to have seen more of him, but I get that Moffat probably wants to introduce him to us slowly. We got a glimpse of him during the 50th, we got a line or two here, no point in ramming the whole chocolate bar down our throats when we can have it a little piece at a time.
I can't help but compare the episode to The Day of the Doctor somewhat, and I know that's unfair - TDotD had a longer run-time to work with, I would imagine a bigger budget, and basically it was the 50th Anniversary episode, it's bound to be more special than a Christmas episode, regeneration or no. The thing is, I absolutely loved that episode, and I think that whilst I may not be directly comparing the two episodes in terms of individual quality, I am still slightly caught up in that "50th hype," and so the Christmas special, as a return to "usual" Doctor Who was always going to be a bit of a comedown. Maybe, because of that, I'll watch this again at some point, without that feeling lurking around, and I'll enjoy it a lot more.
The thing it was missing was coherence/endings. The Weeping Angels just disappeared after the doctor got into the TARDIS. The Cybermen, well, I don't really know what the cybermen were even doing - they seemed to send down a few soldiers, and then, well, nothing? The massive Dalek warfleet, is what, just hanging around? The church of the Silents, well, feck knows about them either. There was no explanation about the Doctors grave, if he saw it in the future, then it can't cease to exist. Effectively, in an episode which was supposed to wrap Matt Smith's doctor, there was little wrapping up, which certainly left me dissatisfied - and as I said earlier, it's probably because of the hundreds of years passing in a single hour. The episode was too ambitious and I don't think those ambitions were really met.
As far as I can tell, Moffat has set up Capaldi's Doctor to bring back the Timelords, which justifies leaving that unanswered, but by leaving practically everything unanswered the episode suffers.
What I didn't get about Clara's family is didn't they die and that's what the whole leaf thing was about?
TH was right (before, about the 10th doctor having used his regen but keeping his face)
All hail TH.
Also, I agree TH, something leaf life about future dead parents.
All hail TH.
Also, I agree TH, something leaf life about future dead parents.
I would love to lick out Clara. The rest of the programme can feck off.
So let me get this straight:
And yes, Clara is just
The Doctor may potentially have more regenerations now right? Capaldi isn't the last one?
And yes, Clara is just
So let me get this straight:
The Doctor may potentially have more regenerations now right? Capaldi isn't the last one?
And yes, Clara is just
He has 12 more regens, which I suppose is enough for them to be going on with before Doctaroo tires.
So let me get this straight:
The Doctor may potentially have more regenerations now right? Capaldi isn't the last one?
And yes, Clara is just
I have not watched the ep yet, but was your spoiler was kind of explained in an ep of The Sarah Jane Adventures, it was said the the Doctor had unlimited regenerations.
http://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2010/oct/12/doctor-who-immortal-reveals-bbc
I see I see. Yes, 12 more regens would most definitely take Doctor Who past the 100 year mark
Very well Pauldy. I won't spoil it for you, but there is a segment in the episode last night that made me doubt that Sarah Jane thing.
I see I see. Yes, 12 more regens would most definitely take Doctor Who past the 100 year mark
Very well Pauldy. I won't spoil it for you, but there is a segment in the episode last night that made me doubt that Sarah Jane thing.
cheers , going to watch it after the game.
That's the first bit of the new Doctor I've seen apart from the glimpse in the 50th special. Avoided knowing much about him once I heard the news for reasons I'm not sure of. Was shocked he's so old but welcome change I guess with Tennant and Smith being so young.
Dr Who is a modern day equivalent of The Emperors New Clothes. No-one likes to admit they haven't a clue what it's about.
Thank God we have an old Doctor at last. Jon Pertwee feels like decades ago!
Hopefully we can go back to concentrating on proper storylines rather than more Sex In The Tardis filler episodes.
Hopefully we can go back to concentrating on proper storylines rather than more Sex In The Tardis filler episodes.
Dr Who is a modern day equivalent of The Emperors New Clothes. No-one likes to admit they haven't a clue what it's about.
I've only seen two episodes...so I'll happily admit to not having the foggiest. To be fair, I've only recently switched on for Clara.
Poor episode, in my opinion.
Wouldn't say Capaldi is old by modern standards is he?
He's probably been an adult longer than Smith and Tennant combined. Well, probably not, but by recent Dr. Who standards he is old.
The lament of the middle aged.
Capaldi is the same age as Hartnell was when Doctor Who started.
Just got round to watching the Christmas Special and I was disappointed.
The whole regeneration thing was just rubbish, the EP could and should of been done much better.
Worst Christmas Special and worse regeneration for me.
Athough I do think Capaldi's Doctor will be very fecking good.
The whole regeneration thing was just rubbish, the EP could and should of been done much better.
Worst Christmas Special and worse regeneration for me.
Athough I do think Capaldi's Doctor will be very fecking good.
@pauldyson1uk
Worst christmas special? Do you remember the christmas special with the trees?
Worst christmas special? Do you remember the christmas special with the trees?
I watched David Tennant's regeneration and it was one of the lowest common denominator pieces of Saturday Night trash TV I've ever seen. This was at least a story.
I thought the Xmas ep was pretty good up until they aged him, where upon the concept (that he stayed for hundreds of years protecting a small village in a stalemate - which is fairly nice) outreached what they were capable of depicting well within the time and prosthetics (of all the advancements in effects, aging people a couple of decades is still something everyone struggles to do) Then the ending was complete nonsense, but no more so than any nonsense ending I've ever seen in Who (flying magic space goblin/running the Olympic torch into a stadium to inspire hope/killer reality TV shows in the future/remembering people back into existence) and the actual lasts bits of Smith were far better than the last bits of Tennant. One meditated on change and it's importance. The other whined he was leaving.
I thought the Xmas ep was pretty good up until they aged him, where upon the concept (that he stayed for hundreds of years protecting a small village in a stalemate - which is fairly nice) outreached what they were capable of depicting well within the time and prosthetics (of all the advancements in effects, aging people a couple of decades is still something everyone struggles to do) Then the ending was complete nonsense, but no more so than any nonsense ending I've ever seen in Who (flying magic space goblin/running the Olympic torch into a stadium to inspire hope/killer reality TV shows in the future/remembering people back into existence) and the actual lasts bits of Smith were far better than the last bits of Tennant. One meditated on change and it's importance. The other whined he was leaving.
OH god yes, watching it again now, by far the worst. Makes this years look like a masterpiece.
I quite liked the one with Michael Gambon where singing saved the day.
Apart from the bit where singing saved the day.
This is an inherent problem with Dr Who. The endings.
Apart from the bit where singing saved the day.
This is an inherent problem with Dr Who. The endings.
I remember there being one last season where the solution was 'think happy thoughts', pissed me off so much. Just fecking stab the aliens or something, why would they be allergic to happy thoughts?
Chanting the Doctor's name or whatever the feck it was they did in the third season finale with the Master is most definitely Doctor Who at its worst.
Just found out that Clara bird is in a relationship with Robb Stark. That's a downer.
There was one with the Olympic Torch and the power of hope which runs it mighty fecking close.
And I'm pretty sure the last Christmas special was resolved by the power of children's tears. I know it's largely for kids. But even kids hate that shit, surely? I liked good stories when I was a kid.
I'm pretty sure most of the Dr Who audience isn't children anyway, so the whole 'for children' excuse wouldn't cut it even if Children liked that bollocks.
Just saw Cipaldi in the Metro, kitted out in his DW outfit. Sorry, couldn't find a link but description below:
Purple long jacketed suit. Think Austin Powers. He looks the PART for a Doctor though!! Back to the good old days (70s). Yay.
ps. where is the spoiler button gone?
Purple long jacketed suit. Think Austin Powers.
He looks the PART for a Doctor though!! Back to the good old days (70s). Yay.ps. where is the spoiler button gone?