[Walters_19_MuFc]

Maybe because Garnacho rivals Dalot in the braindead department and has a questionable attitude to boot?

Let’s not pretend that Amorim resorted to this approach before encountering issues with Garnacho’s attitude.

 

[Isotope]

As a defender, his cowardice defending by shadowing 5 meters away from opponent, is the one that grinding my gears.

 

[El Jefe]

I don’t even blame him this is 100% on Amorim. Dalot has been shit every game he’s played as this pseudo left winger. There’s no more evidence needed to see if he can perform in the role because it’s so obvious that he can’t.

I wouldn’t have De Ligt in midfield so why play an average full back as a final third player in attack. Having to watch Dalot cut in a shoot as if he’s Robert Pires is a head scratcher.

Amorim needs to drop him and play someone from the reserves.

 

[jem]

Let’s not pretend that Amorim resorted to this approach before encountering issues with Garnacho’s attitude.

Well it’s not beyond the realm of possibility that he did some research on things like attitude before taking over

 

[Walters_19_MuFc]

Well it’s not beyond the realm of possibility that he did some research on things like attitude before taking over

But he initially started with Garnacho, just as he did with Rashford, which renders that argument invalid.

 

[Guv77]

As a defender, his cowardice defending by shadowing 5 meters away from opponent, is the one that grinding my gears.

And yet some people on here want him to play has a right CB of the three!

 

[Isotope]

And yet some people on here want him to play has a right CB of the three!

Yes, I was one of them. And couldn't be more wrong.

 

[Mmm-Qatarian]

I've calmed down quite a bit since watching the game, so I'll try not to fill this post with vitriolic nonsense. With that said, I think besides Bruno for very obvious reasons Dalot was probably our most problematic outfield player today.

I've said I wouldn't fill this post with vitriol, and that's actually going to be quite easy to do, because the issue with Dalot isn't one of attitude. It's simply that his left foot is nowhere close to good enough for him to be playing as a left wing-back, and frankly he shouldn't really be an option on that side.

It was really frustrating to hear the commentators talking about Dalot being one of our better players because he was on the ball frequently when this was very obviously a strategic ploy from Wolves because Dalot is such a weak point for us going forward. Wolves were very happy to let Dalot have a tonne of space on the left because he simply isn't capable of taking the ball to the byline on the left-hand side. A capable attacking left back would've had a field day with the space afforded to Dalot today.

This is why, although I agree with the people who say that a single signing isn't going to transform this side into a world-beating one, I do believe that a capable left wing-back will make a considerable difference. It's not only going to provide more of a threat for us down the left, I'd wager that it will also improve things on the right because teams will no longer be able to overload that side in the defensive phase to force us back over to the left.

 

[Rossa]

He's not a winger for this system. He does not have the pace, technical ability or vision to play such a role. Passing and shooting are complete strangers to him.
Decent RB but that's it.

Pace is the one thing he had in abundance.

 

[jem]

But he initially started with Garnacho, just as he did with Rashford, which renders that argument invalid.

But not at LWB, a position that he may well have deemed Garnacho to be a bad fit from an attitude perspective.

Let’s not pretend that Amorim resorted to this approach before encountering issues with Garnacho’s attitude.

Wait, upon reading this again, I’m confused: are you saying that he that he went with the approach of playing Dalot after experiencing issues with Garnacho’s attitude?

 

[daba]

Bored of seeing Dalot in a Utd shirt. He’s the latest player to epitomise the mediocrity running through the squad currently.

Lots of posters talking about the issue being him playing on the left, which I admit does not help, but even on the right he’s still not good enough. He wasn’t good enough as a RB and he’s even further away from being good enough as a RWB.

If there is any interest in him over the next two windows we need to take advantage of it.

 

[jem]

But not at LWB, a position that he may well have deemed Garnacho to be a bad fit from an attitude perspective.

Wait, upon reading this again, I’m confused: are you saying that he that he went with the approach of playing Dalot after experiencing issues with Garnacho’s attitude?

To be clear, I’m speculating (and that’s all we’re really doing here) that from the beginning Amorim saw Dalot as a better option at LWB than Garnacho because whilst both are prone to brain-dead moments, Dalot seems more suited to the role from a temperamental standpoint (ie. being diligent in his defensive duties, not causing a fuss at being played out of position)

 

[jem]

Bored of seeing Dalot in a Utd shirt. He’s the latest player to epitomise the mediocrity running through the squad currently.

Lots of posters talking about the issue being him playing on the left, which I admit does not help, but even on the right he’s still not good enough. He wasn’t good enough as a RB and he’s even further away from being good enough as a RWB.

If there is any interest in him over the next two windows we need to take advantage of it.

Seriously. If Madrid are still interested, we should bite their hands off

 

[NoLogo]

Bored of seeing Dalot in a Utd shirt. He’s the latest player to epitomise the mediocrity running through the squad currently.

Lots of posters talking about the issue being him playing on the left, which I admit does not help, but even on the right he’s still not good enough. He wasn’t good enough as a RB and he’s even further away from being good enough as a RWB.

If there is any interest in him over the next two windows we need to take advantage of it.

You are spot on. Whenever I was watching Leverkusen this and last season I was actually amazed that some teams have wide wingbacks who are a consistent threat over the wings and not like ours where I would be happy if they had 1 or 2 dangerous runs per half.

 

[Walters_19_MuFc]

But not at LWB, a position that he may well have deemed Garnacho to be a bad fit from an attitude perspective.

Wait, upon reading this again, I’m confused: are you saying that he that he went with the approach of playing Dalot after experiencing issues with Garnacho’s attitude?

No, that’s not what I’m saying. Initially, you suggested that Garnacho’s attitude was the reason Amorim didn’t play him. However, I pointed out that if Amorim had concerns about Garnacho’s attitude from the start, he wouldn’t have selected him for the first game.

Fast forward a few matches, and Garnacho is back in the squad. It’s becoming clear that Amorim doesn’t see him as a natural fit for the number 10 role. With that in mind, my suggestion is to try Garnacho as a left wing-back, especially since Dalot hasn’t been particularly effective in that position. A left wing-back role, which leans more toward playing as a left winger, aligns with Garnacho’s strengths—where he’s excelled in the past—and he offers far more attacking output than Dalot.

 

[pascell]

Seriously. If Madrid are still interested, we should bite their hands off

I doubt they're still interested after seeing him play this season.

 

[Oscar Bonavena]

I don't think I can take another game watching this guy play left wing back.

 

[Superunknown]

He seems to get on the ball a lot. But, he's so bad with it. He can't play that position with confidence, although I'm struggling to think of many in our squad who can do that job either. It's such a poor squad. Shaw, then Malacia should be making that role their own, but they can't be trusted due to their shite fitness issues. We're resorting to having to play players out of position. We need to get a new player in for this position asap and then we can look to put Dalot in a more favourable position on the other side, if he makes it into the first 11 or bench.

 

[2 man midfield]

What does he do? For the love of god, tell me. What the feck does he do?

 

[Paul778]

What does he do? For the love of god, tell me. What the feck does he do?

Teams let him have the ball because they know he'll do feck all with it.

Rolling it back for someone to cross into the box where it's only Rasmus or Zirkzee against a set defence is never going to generate goals for us.

 

[Bwuk]

I really like Dalot but he’s shite at LWB.

We need to stop playing him there. He has to cut in every single time.

 

[daba]

Seriously. If Madrid are still interested, we should bite their hands off

If those rumours have any truth to them, we’ll have seriously lucked out as I don’t see many other teams in Europe putting up £40m for him.

The downside though is that it might mean Madrid don’t get Trent, which I would love to see happen just to boil some scouse piss.

 

[stevoc]

Diogo Doesn't Doalot

He's just not good enough going forward to be a wing back or play on the left. He was good as an inverted RB in Ten Hag ball and I feel he'd be a decent RB elsewhere but we need a proper LB/LWB asap. Hopefully Shaw get and stay fit (I know).

 

[jem]

No, that’s not what I’m saying. Initially, you suggested that Garnacho’s attitude was the reason Amorim didn’t play him. However, I pointed out that if Amorim had concerns about Garnacho’s attitude from the start, he wouldn’t have selected him for the first game.

Fast forward a few matches, and Garnacho is back in the squad. It’s becoming clear that Amorim doesn’t see him as a natural fit for the number 10 role. With that in mind, my suggestion is to try Garnacho as a left wing-back, especially since Dalot hasn’t been particularly effective in that position. A left wing-back role, which leans more toward playing as a left winger, aligns with Garnacho’s strengths—where he’s excelled in the past—and he offers far more attacking output than Dalot.

No I was suggesting that in Amorim’s eyes, Garnacho’s attitude might not be something that would lend itself to playing a new position, one which includes its share of defensive responsibilities (again all speculation…)

 

[jem]

If those rumours have any truth to them, we’ll have seriously lucked out as I don’t see many other teams in Europe putting up £40m for him.

The downside though is that it might mean Madrid don’t get Trent, which I would love to see happen just to boil some scouse piss.

A small downside - at this point, I’d take 20 million for Dalot

 

[Walters_19_MuFc]

No I was suggesting that in Amorim’s eyes, Garnacho’s attitude might not be something that would lend itself to playing a new position, one which includes its share of defensive responsibilities (again all speculation…)

That wasn’t your original argument. However, in response to this post, the suggestion arises due to Dalot’s consistently average performances—not just in attack but defensively as well. Therefore, I don’t think it’s unreasonable to suggest that Garnacho could be more effective, especially since he’d essentially operate as a winger when in possession. As a team struggling to score goals, we desperately need more creativity in the final third. In that regard, I’d much prefer Garnacho to provide that spark over Dalot.

 

[jem]

That wasn’t your original argument. However, in response to this post, the suggestion arises due to Dalot’s consistently average performances—not just in attack but defensively as well. Therefore, I don’t think it’s unreasonable to suggest that Garnacho could be more effective, especially since he’d essentially operate as a winger when in possession. As a team struggling to score goals, we desperately need more creativity in the final third. In that regard, I’d much prefer Garnacho to provide that spark over Dalot.

My verbatim reply to your post about Garnacho not being given a shot at wingback opposite Mazraoui: “Maybe because Garnacho rivals Dalot in the braindead department and has a questionable attitude to boot?”

 

[Walters_19_MuFc]

My verbatim reply to your post about Garnacho not being given a shot at wingback opposite Mazraoui: “Maybe because Garnacho rivals Dalot in the braindead department and has a questionable attitude to boot?”

You pointed to his attitude as the reason why Amorim isn’t playing him there, even before any issues arose with Garnacho. I’d understand your argument if Garnacho had been tried as a left wing-back and performed poorly, but he hasn’t even been given a chance. Before Amorim arrived, Garnacho was our go-to player when we needed someone to make something happen. While that responsibility now seems to have shifted to Amad, having both players involved—especially when we’re so stagnant in attack—surely wouldn’t hurt. If Amorim tries it and it doesn’t work, fair enough, but for the love of God, at least try something different.

 

[jem]

You pointed to his attitude as the reason why Amorim isn’t playing him there, even before any issues arose with Garnacho. I’d understand your argument if Garnacho had been tried as a left wing-back and performed poorly, but he hasn’t even been given a chance. Before Amorim arrived, Garnacho was our go-to player when we needed someone to make something happen. While that responsibility now seems to have shifted to Amad, having both players involved—especially when we’re so stagnant in attack—surely wouldn’t hurt. If Amorim tries it and it doesn’t work, fair enough, but for the love of God, at least try something different.

I’m not saying it won’t work (hell things can hardly get worse) but Garnacho was displaying selfish traits before Amorim arrived (and had been called out for his attitude issues as early as ETH’s season; Bruno, a player loathe to singling out teammates in the press, even brought it up.) So he didn’t exactly jump out as a player you’d want to be throwing into an entirely new position nor as one who’d embrace such a position change (mind you I would’ve said the same about Antony, yet he’s proven to be relative adaptable recently.)

 

[golden_blunder]

Love his attitude but he slows attacks right down

 

[Walters_19_MuFc]

I’m not saying it won’t work (hell things can hardly get worse) but Garnacho was displaying selfish traits before Amorim arrived (and had been called out for his attitude issues as early as ETH’s season; Bruno, a player loathe to singling out teammates in the press, even brought it up.) So he didn’t exactly jump out as a player you’d want to be throwing into an entirely new position nor as one who’d embrace such a position change (mind you I would’ve said the same about Antony, yet he’s proven to be relative adaptable recently.)

This is an "entirely new role" for all of them, but I argued that it's much closer to the position Garnacho played under Ten Hag, given how advanced Amorim wants his wing-backs to operate. The reality is that Dalot has contributed next to nothing in that role, and I have serious doubts about Malacia regaining his best form after his injury. It's obvious we need to bring in a proper left wing-back, but for now, as I mentioned before, there's no harm in giving it a shot.

 

[ScholesBrain]

His unnecessary pass to Bruno leading to the red card epitomizes him and our whole team.

 

[NinjaZombie]

Having the ball a lot doesn't mean you had a good game. Dakota doesn't have it in him to play lwb. Not agile enough, too slow on the ball, doesn't take on players. Kept playing the same kind of passes that Wolves funnelled him into as well.

 

[Shaw's Shank Redemption]

Isnt Mazroui as two footed as Dalot?

I remember people saying Mazraoui can play LB.

If thats the case i dont know why we are playing the less technical player on his weaker position.

Whilst i do think its time Antony comes in to the first 11 for a few games - i think swapping Mazroui to LWB and Dalot to RWB would suit this squad much more whenever amorim decides to use these two.

 

[poleglass red]

The high five man. Hopefully he high fives Ruben when he leaves. Shit player.

 

[Xeque_279]

I don’t even blame him this is 100% on Amorim. Dalot has been shit every game he’s played as this pseudo left winger. There’s no more evidence needed to see if he can perform in the role because it’s so obvious that he can’t.

I wouldn’t have De Ligt in midfield so why play an average full back as a final third player in attack. Having to watch Dalot cut in a shoot as if he’s Robert Pires is a head scratcher.

Amorim needs to drop him and play someone from the reserves.

Like who? Amass is not ready yet.

 

[RedIan]

Isnt Mazroui as two footed as Dalot?

I remember people saying Mazraoui can play LB.

If thats the case i dont know why we are playing the less technical player on his weaker position.

Whilst i do think its time Antony comes in to the first 11 for a few games - i think swapping Mazroui to LWB and Dalot to RWB would suit this squad much more whenever amorim decides to use these two.

Is dalot two footed? You could have fooled me,, cuts inside all the time playing on the left. Hes a decent RFB and a very poor LFB

 

[Richter]

Opponents now leave him open when he plays as a Lwb much like they did when we had Wan Bissaka as a Rb.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

Opponents now leave him open when he plays as a Lwb much like they did when we had Wan Bissaka as a Rb.

Yeah that was obvious. Whereas Amad and Maz were getting swarmed whenever they got the ball on our right flank.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

You pointed to his attitude as the reason why Amorim isn’t playing him there, even before any issues arose with Garnacho. I’d understand your argument if Garnacho had been tried as a left wing-back and performed poorly, but he hasn’t even been given a chance. Before Amorim arrived, Garnacho was our go-to player when we needed someone to make something happen. While that responsibility now seems to have shifted to Amad, having both players involved—especially when we’re so stagnant in attack—surely wouldn’t hurt. If Amorim tries it and it doesn’t work, fair enough, but for the love of God, at least try something different.

I’m not saying it won’t work (hell things can hardly get worse) but Garnacho was displaying selfish traits before Amorim arrived (and had been called out for his attitude issues as early as ETH’s season; Bruno, a player loathe to singling out teammates in the press, even brought it up.) So he didn’t exactly jump out as a player you’d want to be throwing into an entirely new position nor as one who’d embrace such a position change (mind you I would’ve said the same about Antony, yet he’s proven to be relative adaptable recently.)

Garnacho’s poor defending and inability to get up and down the pitch have been among his biggest flaw whenever he’s played on the wing. Playing him in a position where those flaws will get even more exposed would be madness. And that’s without even getting into the terrible form he’s been in for basically this whole season. He really shouldn’t be starting games in any position until he somehow finds his mojo again with some decent cameos off the bench (yesterday’s effort was the exact opposite of a decent cameo)