Dimitar Berbatov | 2010/11 Performances

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The biggest problem for Berba is that him and Rooney have never really managed to form a partnership - there have been a few signs of it happening but for the most part it hasnt come off.
 
I'm with the people who think Berba was benched due to tactical reasons...

Berbatov has scored 19 PL goals, and hasn't scored 2 years in the CL... Let him be and rest him for Bolton.

Anyhow, the other reason that we don't play him is due to the weak MF, in 4-4-2 you have to acknowledge that Carrcik and Scholes do not have the legs to do the job they once did 3 years ago, Rooney helped a lot coming down deep, doing his defensive job and mad some stunning passes, Berbatov does his fair share of defense but he doesn't do it as good as Rooney so just let Rooney focus on getting his form back.
 
The biggest problem for Berba is that him and Rooney have never really managed to form a partnership - there have been a few signs of it happening but for the most part it hasnt come off.
That's about right. Fair thing would have been allowing Berba to cement a partnership with Cheech given his form this season but life is not fair and it is perfectly understandable why Fergie would want to play Rooney into form.
 
I'm quite surprised that the inclusion of Hernandez has prompted such negative reviews of Berbatov. This sport is more of a squad game than ever. Berbatov has played a massive role in getting us to where we are this season. And he'll continue to play his role in the run in. He'll likely get the nod against Bolton and do the business against them.
 
Berbatov will play vs Bolton. He's been very good at OT against most teams so I think he'll play (and score). And Chicharito has started the last few games so I won't be surprised to see him on the bench and start at West Ham next week.
 
And Berbatov has been in poor form in Europe for ages now so I won't be shocked if he doesn't play even one more European match this season.
 
And Berbatov has been in poor form in Europe for ages now so I won't be shocked if he doesn't play even one more European match this season.

If we get all the way to the final and Berbatov doesnt get picked once even his most staunch fan boys will be worried about his future.

Or will they keep saying he is being rested or his style doesnt fit this type of game?
 
Screw it, let's play Rooney just behind Berbatov and Hernandez against Bolton and then everyone will be happy.
 
Screw it, let's play Rooney just behind Berbatov and Hernandez against Bolton and then everyone will be happy.

I don’t think that would work. At home to Bolton I would love to see Valencia Scholes Nani Rooney and Hernandez all start. It’s an incredibly exciting line up
 
Even if Berba does not start another CL game this season its not the end of his career - far from it. He is just not suited to these games when we play a different style.

Berba is great against teams who come and sit which is where Hernandez will not be as good. This is why he has scored the vast majority of his goals at home and also against Bolton we need his height ar set pieces.

I fully expect Berba to start all the home games for us in the Prem.
 
I don’t think that would work. At home to Bolton I would love to see Valencia Scholes Nani Rooney and Hernandez all start. It’s an incredibly exciting line up

Scholes is banned, I think Rooney should drop back and replace him (albeit more attacking) whilst Berbatov should take Rooney's role vs Marseille.
 
If we get all the way to the final and Berbatov doesnt get picked once even his most staunch fan boys will be worried about his future.

Or will they keep saying he is being rested or his style doesnt fit this type of game?

Aren't you a fan boy seeing as he's a United player, our top scorer and the scorer of some key goals this season?

Christ the gimpishness reaches ever more epic proportions on here.
 
Berbatov will play vs Bolton. He's been very good at OT against most teams so I think he'll play (and score). And Chicharito has started the last few games so I won't be surprised to see him on the bench and start at West Ham next week.

I agree.

I'd start Berba in the home PL games and have Chicharito start the away games as he seems to have a knack of scoring quite a few goals away from home in the league.
 
Rooney has been majestic playing in the hole with Hernandez ahead of him.

I have underestimated Hernandez. He may not be a good technical player, but he brings so much to the side. His partnership with Rooney is amazing. Berbatov should not start unless one of Rooney or Hernandez is injured or unavailable.
 
I agree.

I'd start Berba in the home PL games and have Chicharito start the away games as he seems to have a knack of scoring quite a few goals away from home in the league.

Hernandez has a big tactical role to play in away games. His movement in behind can have the effect of creating an extra bit of space for the likes of Carrick, Scholes and Rooney to operate in.

Totally agree. Sounds like a good formula. Berbahome. Hernandaway.
 
I never say that Elvis.
United comes before the player's happiness for me.If players perform very well then ultimately others will find more time on the bench
 
I think you misunderstood me Elvis.I couldn't care less about who plays in the team as long as the performance from the players is very good.At the moment (even if it might temporary), if Hernandez is keeping Berbatov out of the first 11 then I'm not gonna feel "sad" for Berba.It's the tough life of a pro footballer.
It doesn't mean that I want him gone or anything like that
 
If we get all the way to the final and Berbatov doesnt get picked once even his most staunch fan boys will be worried about his future.

Or will they keep saying he is being rested or his style doesnt fit this type of game?

It's like you're actually happy that Berbatov can't get a game.
 
I think you misunderstood me Elvis.I couldn't care less about who plays in the team as long as the performance from the players is very good.At the moment (even if it might temporary), if Hernandez is keeping Berbatov out of the first 11 then I'm not gonna feel "sad" for Berba.It's the tough life of a pro footballer.
It doesn't mean that I want him gone or anything like that

Yeah, I completely agree. I think Elvis did misunderstand because surely that's something that practically all football fans would agree with (though you did word it a bit strongly in your first post).
 
It's like you're actually happy that Berbatov can't get a game.

I am pleased that Rooney is getting back to his best and very excited by Hernandez. And right now these would be my choice for pretty much every home game

Away from home/tough games I am fine with 4-5-1 (Rooney up top)

I hate looking at a glum 30 million pound man warming our bench. I do feel sorry for him. He has had a good season and I was impressed how he overcame his indifferent 1st 2 seasons. But I dont see how or why he should be content with the current situation.

I also dont see how Fergie can justify one of our highest earners being a 3rd choice striker especially when it comes to a new contract this summer. He is also ineffectual when he comes off the bench and in no way an impact sub.

I think something has to give
 
You just want Berbatov out, full stop?

I think it looks like Sir Alex is still quite happy to have Berbatov play a lot of the home games, and Hernandez is still growing. Let's say we let go of Berbatov, that leaves us with Hernandez, Welbeck and Rooney - is that really substantial?

If Rooney's injured, which he inevitably will be every season, Berbatov will come in and form a very effective partnership with Hernandez or at times Rooney will be moved back to the left along with those two. If Berbatov's price wasn't taken into consideration then I don't really see what the problem is? A top class strikeforce to rotate between with plenty of variety in style - it's a blessing not a curse for me.
 
And fans say it's players who have a lack of loyalty......

They're the ones who sign contracts and are expected to honour them. I dont know about you, but I never signed anything when Berbatov was bought saying I'd always care about him
 
I think it's interesting how when we first signed Berbatov people said he would be more suited to the Champions League and that was the reason we bought him. Three years on and he isn't getting games much less goals.
 
There is no point getting rid of Berba unless we go all in for Lukaku!!!

I suspect Berba will get a one year extension, Owen is moved on and Welbeck returns leaving us with Berba, Rooney, Hernandez and Welbeck - nice blend of experience and youth.

Even off form Rooney is still our most lethal striker so SAF will always give him more playing time to recover his form.

When Berba joined many complained why he was getting more game time than Tevez but SAF thinking was he needed to offer Berba as much time to bed in and he was correct.

Berba should not take him being dropped as a sign of poor performance or SAF no trusting him its sinply horses for courses.
 
Fergie's none selection of Berbatov may have something to do about the injuries in midfield and having to play Rooney much deeper. Hernandez's pace & movement are probably more suited to having to play Rooney further back.
 
I think it's interesting how when we first signed Berbatov people said he would be more suited to the Champions League and that was the reason we bought him. Three years on and he isn't getting games much less goals.

They said he just needed a stage and he'd be a superstar. Some said 25-30 goals a season. They said he'd be the key to breaking teams down.

It doesnt matter what they said, they got it wrong.
 
There is no point getting rid of Berba unless we go all in for Lukaku!!!

I suspect Berba will get a one year extension, Owen is moved on and Welbeck returns leaving us with Berba, Rooney, Hernandez and Welbeck - nice blend of experience and youth.

Even off form Rooney is still our most lethal striker so SAF will always give him more playing time to recover his form.

When Berba joined many complained why he was getting more game time than Tevez but SAF thinking was he needed to offer Berba as much time to bed in and he was correct.

Berba should not take him being dropped as a sign of poor performance or SAF no trusting him its sinply horses for courses.

I think Berbatov will get more than a year's extention if he's happy enough playing the squad game and only playing certain matches. The problem will be his wages and having to pay him a lot of money to do the job.

However its like others have said earlier in the thread, if Hernandez or Rooney get an injury suddenly he's back to being a very important player. It would cost a lot to replace him (on this season's form anyway) and said player might not be open to spending lots of time on the bench.

Regardless, any time Berbatov gets a chance off the bench he needs to take it. His record off the bench is terrible for a very good striker.

The same with european matches. Any time he does get the chance to play one in the future, he has to make sure he gets that goal that stops his poor record and says we can count on him in those matches. He simply needs to take his chances when he does get them, as Hernandez has done.
 
Reading the last few pages you'd think he had a stinker of a season and was to be shipped out in the summer, not the Premier League's top scorer, who most teams would kill to have. How fickle football fans are.
 
I don’t think anyone has said or implied than Feeky. I think for me anyway it is confusion or at least in two minds about the image of a top quality 30 million pound striker sitting on the bench. It doesn’t sit well with me. But at the same time I think Fergies team selection has been 100% justified.

In fairness people have answered that in saying I should be happy with him as an option and it shows great squad strength.

It’s an odd one which I cannot think of a good comparison. Maybe Dwight Yorke but he turned to shite. Not the other way around like Berbatov
 
There's an obsession with the £30m. Jesus. Forget it. It's an inflated market, there was a bidding war with city and we effectively offered them compo not to report us for opening talks without permission. Judge him on whether he's been a good player for Manchester United, not his price tag. Obviously it's to be considered, but not to the obsession that it has been. I doubt if we'd be in a position to challenge for no.19 without Berba this season, what would that bring in in prize money and increased prestige etc.
 
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