Which Tevez goal has been chalked off, is there a source for this?
Dimitar Berbatov | 2010/11 Performances
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Who has scored the most winners / equalisers for us?
Berba has had one goal chalked off so is he now officially on 20 goals still 2 ahead of Tevez.
Berba has had one goal chalked off so is he now officially on 20 goals still 2 ahead of Tevez.
Yep, hopefully he'll be signing that contract extension in the near future.
That's some pretty conclusive statto work there - Berba won us the league !
He's had a really good season and, what is even more important imo, after beeing dropped to the bench in so many important games this season he never came out and talked shit in public or to the media.
Top professional and one of our most important players this season imo.
Top professional and one of our most important players this season imo.
Don't think even the Berbaflop camp side will deny that Berba has been a big reason to our league success this season. However, I think those that don't fancy have reasons (not ones I agree) to knock him with.
The thought is all the points / goals Berba has got against lower opposition is not that high an achievement, that in some ways anyone else could have done that job. The view from his critics is that Berba should be getting goals/points against the top sides and that they use as a way to indict his usefulness at the club when he doesn't. For 30 mil that he should be a player that is one of the first names on the team sheet in no matter what game it and that player should be delivering on the biggest stages.
As someone that like Berbatov being at United and what he brings, I also do wish that he would be magical on the big stage more often but, for multitudes of reasons he hasn't been, part of his fault, some of it has been the overall team displays in some of the big games where Berbatov has played but, not shined.
Still, I think he gives us something different to Rooney and Chicha in his ability to hold up play and make things happen in tight areas. When you have teams that sit deep and are hard to break down, he is a player through his vision and ability with the ball create out of nothing or in the tightest of spaces. That he has managed to score against the canon fodder is a testament in itself as this season has shown, it doesn't just happen because on paper they are a weaker team.
A positive in his performance this season is that while he maybe has faded towards the end of the season, it has allowed for Rooney and Chicha to come on fresh and strong. Just like Nani carried the wing play for us a large part of the season, a fresh Valencia now is carrying on where he left off, so are Chicha/Rooney doing the same from the foundation Berba setup for the team through his contributions for a lot of the season.
The thought is all the points / goals Berba has got against lower opposition is not that high an achievement, that in some ways anyone else could have done that job. The view from his critics is that Berba should be getting goals/points against the top sides and that they use as a way to indict his usefulness at the club when he doesn't. For 30 mil that he should be a player that is one of the first names on the team sheet in no matter what game it and that player should be delivering on the biggest stages.
As someone that like Berbatov being at United and what he brings, I also do wish that he would be magical on the big stage more often but, for multitudes of reasons he hasn't been, part of his fault, some of it has been the overall team displays in some of the big games where Berbatov has played but, not shined.
Still, I think he gives us something different to Rooney and Chicha in his ability to hold up play and make things happen in tight areas. When you have teams that sit deep and are hard to break down, he is a player through his vision and ability with the ball create out of nothing or in the tightest of spaces. That he has managed to score against the canon fodder is a testament in itself as this season has shown, it doesn't just happen because on paper they are a weaker team.
A positive in his performance this season is that while he maybe has faded towards the end of the season, it has allowed for Rooney and Chicha to come on fresh and strong. Just like Nani carried the wing play for us a large part of the season, a fresh Valencia now is carrying on where he left off, so are Chicha/Rooney doing the same from the foundation Berba setup for the team through his contributions for a lot of the season.
Either this is wrong or Republic of Mancunia with the 7 winners which would equate to 21 points.
I think this uses the marginal scoring ie its the winner if its the second goal if we win say 3-1.
Outright winners berba has 3.
If you score the second in a 3-1 win you've scored the winner, that's entirely fair
It's been a good campaign for Berbatov, much better than his previous two, and he's scored more goals and looked a better player during it. But he's found himself out of the team, because another player far more suited to the teams play has been given a chance and taken it with interest. That's football
Not sure about the outright winners stat, but for the stat I posted I believe scoring a goal that proved to be a winner is worth 2pts (as it turns a 1pt draw into a 3pt win), and scoring a goal that turns out to be an equaliser is unsurprisingly worth 1pt. I think the totals are a little conservative though as, just for example, as far as I understand it Berbatov would only be awarded 2pts for the Liverpool hat trick game, despite him scoring the 'equalising' goal too (I know he scored his 2nd before Liverpool scored theirs).
Hernandez has 9 winners using marginal rule.
It counts the marginal goal as in the Liverpool case so I suspect he would be awarded 2 points for the winner and 1 more for the equaliser ergo 3 points for us.
I think he has gained us more points than other players but then how do you score the defenders for not letting them in?
Has he signed his extention or are United waiting till the end of the season to confirm it? I hope he stays.
Of course not conceding goals is just as important to as team as scoring is, but I don't think this particular comparison is attempting to judge all players and all aspects of football. It's not even comparing all aspects of attacking play - just the important goalscoring statistics.
Tevez scored for Shitty so Berba just 1 ahead 
They are tied now..
feck.
Berba will be playin against Blackpool anyway, so I guess it's down to him now.
Berba will be playin against Blackpool anyway, so I guess it's down to him now.
I assume Berba will start against Blackpool as if he does not I would expect it means he could be a starter in the CL final?
Berba likes scoring against Blackpool never fear.
I think SAF has said that the players for the CL final will play some part in either the Blackpool game or Nev's testimonial, he said it was a mistake giving them two weeks rest before Rome. I'd guess that Berbatov will start with either Rooney or Owen against Blackpool (probably Owen), and Hernandez and the other one will maybe get a half each in the testimonial.
Who really gives a feck if he's top scorer, you sound like a bunch of scousers desperate for a golden gloves award. He's top scorer for the Champions, that's all that matters!
Hey, don't diss the Golden Sock award, Sharky.
RACE FOR THE GOLDEN BOOT
Dimitar Berbatov enters the final day of the season as the Barclays Premier League’s joint top scorer, level with former Reds team-mate Carlos Tevez on 20 goals.
United welcome Blackpool to Old Trafford on Sunday, while Tevez’s Manchester City travel to Bolton’s Reebok Stadium. Should neither player score, or both score the same number of goals, the Golden Boot will be shared. But that’s not what Sir Alex wants.
The Reds boss has plumped for Javier Hernandez ahead of Berbatov in recent weeks but confirmed United’s Bulgarian striker will start on Sunday in a game Sir Alex predicts will feature “a few goals”.
“It’s obvious that the emergence of Chicharito has made it difficult for me to pick Berbatov above Chicharito given his performance level, his goals, his freshness and his pace,” Sir Alex explained at his pre-match press conference on Friday.
“I think Dimitar understands that and he’s never complained. And when Dimitar’s been given his opportunity he’s done his best. He’ll play on Sunday and hopefully he’ll end up as the top goalscorer.”
Reds full-back Patrice Evra, who forged a strong friendship with Carlos Tevez during his time at Old Trafford, agrees with the manager: he wants Dimitar to win the Golden Boot.
“Berba is different class,” Patrice said. “I really hope he ends the season as the league’s top scorer. Whenever I get the ball I’ll be passing to Berba because I want him to score!”
Berbatov's league goals have come at a rate of one every 106 minutes this season, with Tevez finding the net for City, on average, every 121 minutes. Take penalties out of the equation (Berbatov hasn't netted from the spot) and Tevez's strike-rate rises to one every 151 minutes.
The Bulgarian's also scored more winning goals (seven) than any other player in the Premier League this term. Fingers crossed he grabs another on Sunday...
Manchester United Official Web Site - Dimitar Berbatov and Carlos Tevez race for the Golden Boot.
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Just as we thought, great to hear and I hope he gets the golden boot he deserves.
Dimitar Berbatov enters the final day of the season as the Barclays Premier League’s joint top scorer, level with former Reds team-mate Carlos Tevez on 20 goals.
United welcome Blackpool to Old Trafford on Sunday, while Tevez’s Manchester City travel to Bolton’s Reebok Stadium. Should neither player score, or both score the same number of goals, the Golden Boot will be shared. But that’s not what Sir Alex wants.
The Reds boss has plumped for Javier Hernandez ahead of Berbatov in recent weeks but confirmed United’s Bulgarian striker will start on Sunday in a game Sir Alex predicts will feature “a few goals”.
“It’s obvious that the emergence of Chicharito has made it difficult for me to pick Berbatov above Chicharito given his performance level, his goals, his freshness and his pace,” Sir Alex explained at his pre-match press conference on Friday.
“I think Dimitar understands that and he’s never complained. And when Dimitar’s been given his opportunity he’s done his best. He’ll play on Sunday and hopefully he’ll end up as the top goalscorer.”
Reds full-back Patrice Evra, who forged a strong friendship with Carlos Tevez during his time at Old Trafford, agrees with the manager: he wants Dimitar to win the Golden Boot.
“Berba is different class,” Patrice said. “I really hope he ends the season as the league’s top scorer. Whenever I get the ball I’ll be passing to Berba because I want him to score!”
Berbatov's league goals have come at a rate of one every 106 minutes this season, with Tevez finding the net for City, on average, every 121 minutes. Take penalties out of the equation (Berbatov hasn't netted from the spot) and Tevez's strike-rate rises to one every 151 minutes.
The Bulgarian's also scored more winning goals (seven) than any other player in the Premier League this term. Fingers crossed he grabs another on Sunday...
Manchester United Official Web Site - Dimitar Berbatov and Carlos Tevez race for the Golden Boot.
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Just as we thought, great to hear and I hope he gets the golden boot he deserves.
There's nothing wrong with Berbatov but for his price tag.
Which was nothing to do with him.
A good performance should solidify his spot on the bench for the final. He should be ahead of Owen in the pecking order as it is.
Good points. I hope he stays next season, and I see absolutely no reason why he shouldn't. Who better are we going to get as thrid choice striker? There's no reason why he couldn't have a similarly crucial role to play at some stage next year. We've barely even seen a Berba/Hernandez partnership yet, which looks great on paper and could be hugely important for us if Rooney gets injured.
Berbandez worked very well when we were 2-0 down to Blackpool few weeks ago.
Very generous comments from Dimi. Well done to him.
The man is class from head to toe
Good season after everyone thought he was most certainly out. Him and Nani.
But Ferguson fought for them, he knew there was something there and now we are looking at the players with the most assists and the joined top scorer in the league
Dare I say, these were as well the two most entertaining players for us this year.
But Ferguson fought for them, he knew there was something there and now we are looking at the players with the most assists and the joined top scorer in the league
Dare I say, these were as well the two most entertaining players for us this year.
Well, not everyone.
Any pictures of him and Tevez holding a golden shoe?
Look how happy he is
Oh Berbatov, he would be the perfect player for this game, but only one side of the game, when we have the ball. Without the ball, his nonchalant strolling will give some of us headaches.
Any pictures of him and Tevez holding a golden shoe?
I hope not. I really wanted Berba to win it outright. Congrats to him anyway. It can't have been easy for him to see his goalscoring opportunities dwindle towards the end of the season.
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