I don't think we're going to get anything too wildly different out of Berbatov than we've had these last two seasons. Be nice if this was his best yet... But then again I want to see Hernandez play a lot, looks likea young Michael Owen to me with his pace, movement and instinct for goal. Will be an interesting season for Berbatov, hopefully he has no choice but to step it up
Dimitar Berbatov | 2010/11 Performances
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I don't think you can underestimate the what transfer in of Hernandez will do for Berbatov and even Rooney. Finally United have a player who naturally likes to play on the last shoulder of the defender and has pace. That automatically opens up the space in front of the defense for Berbatov to exploit. Last season defenders were sticking too close to Berbatov because there wasn't that constant threat. Rooney, likewise, is someone who likes to have the ball at his feet and create rather than have to wait for others to create for him. I wonder if SAF will try a 4-2-3-1 this season with Rooney, Berbatov, and either Nani or Valencia in behind Chicharito. It could really present problems for defenders and place both Rooney and Berbatov where they excel best.
Berba played deep in his first season and SAF said in hindsight he was too deep. Hernandez bringing out the best in Berba or Rooney is harking back to some notion of strikers playing in tandem when in fact now the game has moved on with the prevalence of lone strikers who can do everything and wide men who can cut inside and score.
The amount of shit that this wonderful footballer gets from spanners and idiots and keyboard heros that know nothing about football, astounds me.
He is pure class, a true team player with a remarkable touch and an instinctive feel for the game. He's also an intelligent, articulate and right-minded gentleman, who always comes across well when he addresses the media.
feck the haters.
He is pure class, a true team player with a remarkable touch and an instinctive feel for the game. He's also an intelligent, articulate and right-minded gentleman, who always comes across well when he addresses the media.
feck the haters.
Saying he's been poor isn't hating. (he did well in this game in case someones about to pounce)
Thanks. I should have chosen my words more carefully though.
Christ, I'd even forgot about that run. Well done Berbatov, we knew you had it in you... Now lets see it more often.
I'm not referring to genuinely deserved comments relating to specific incidents, or even well constructed critical analysis. Even Paul Scholes plays badly sometimes.
I'm talking about the people that can't see past the fact that he plays the game differently to your average, speedy, swashbuckling attacker. He's not lazy, and he's anything but shit.
You bad Ihni binni dimi diniwiny anitaime.
I'm talking about the people that can't see past the fact that he plays the game differently to your average, speedy, swashbuckling attacker. He's not lazy, and he's anything but shit.
You bad Ihni binni dimi diniwiny anitaime.
Who has said he's lazy and shit then?
who of you haven't?
Most posters who have been underwhelmed by Berbatov so far at United, have never said he's lazy and shit.
If I'm incorrect about that I'm sure you'll have a shit load of quotes to reply with and prove you arent talking absolute bollocks.
you mean we have to provide quotes where you say he's lazy AND shit in the same sentence?
No, I'm not going to set you a task of something impossible. In which case I dont think you should go about looking for quotes where I've ever said he's shit, because I havent. And most people, Berbahaters or whatever phrase you want to use, most of them havent called him shit either. So even grabbing two quotes from single posters saying "He's shit" and "he's lazy" in seperate posts, I doubt you'll find more than 10 people and that would be a minority of the people who have been underwhlemed by what he's produced in a United shirt.
Lots more have said he's lazy and explained why they think that. Some like myself have also given him a lot of credit for improving on his workrate, closing down and chasing lost causes and tackling, which have improved from when he first came to the club.
Its really not as black and white as you seem to be insinuating. I dont hate him, I hope he does well, but I'm not going to say he's brilliant if he played okay and scored a very good goal. Its encouraging, its not perfect.
Bar the last month or so, Berba was pretty useful last year.
Get the same or a bit better this year and I won't be too disappointed.
Great goal today.
Get the same or a bit better this year and I won't be too disappointed.
Great goal today.
I've not been gathering evidence, it's not a fecking RICO case that I'm building against the anti-Berbatov racketeers!
The fact is, and I assure you that it is a fact, that there are masses of daft spuds that support Manchester United that simply don't know their arses from their elbows, and expect all attackers to play like Messi.
These people are numerous in the extreme (we're probably talking millions worldwide) and they annoy me greatly. Whether browsing the internet during moments of boredom, chatting in the pub or supporting United from the mighty 'terraces' of OT, I stumble upon these shitfecks in droves and they irritate me beyond belief, because they are stupid, and stupid people are annoying.
Frankly, I've had enough.
The fact is, and I assure you that it is a fact, that there are masses of daft spuds that support Manchester United that simply don't know their arses from their elbows, and expect all attackers to play like Messi.
These people are numerous in the extreme (we're probably talking millions worldwide) and they annoy me greatly. Whether browsing the internet during moments of boredom, chatting in the pub or supporting United from the mighty 'terraces' of OT, I stumble upon these shitfecks in droves and they irritate me beyond belief, because they are stupid, and stupid people are annoying.
Frankly, I've had enough.
Just seen his interview with Sky - he comes across as a really nice, no bullshit sort of fella.
I was delighted for him today, some things he tried didn't quite come off but in the end his whole attitude seems to have improved dramatically. More of please!
Alright then fair enough. But the best idea is probably to go and tell them that, not post about it on a forum where only a select few and easily the minority have said what you're talking about. We both know there are a few who have said those things, just so long as we're not assuming most people who are yet to be convinced by Berbatov, have said those things. Because most of them havent.
Oh, believe me, I tell them! I take great pleasure in doing so! Up to now I still have an intact jaw, but only just!
i hope he wakes up finally.
The thing is in interviews etc. Dimi comes across as a truly likable bloke and very genuine in his determination to win and see the team do well. I really want him to succeed and I seriously hope he does.
Beautiful goal, what we need, is some more Berbalove.
20 goals this season
20 goals this season
did anyone else notice berba giving instructions to teammates about whom to pass the ball, just before the third goal?
I thought this was one of his worst games in a United shirt, to be honest. Nearly played Chicharito through, and pulled a nice ball back to him in the box, but his possession play was strangely poor and he struggled to get as involved as he normally does.
Must be living in a parallel universe.
Must be living in a parallel universe.
I think he's had plenty of worse games... But neither was he very good apart from the well taken goal. I'd say he was okay overall including marking him up for his goal.
He looked off the pace - getting caught twice whilst dithering on the ball. I think he just needs some match sharpness as he has had a nice long summer off.
Berba is not a fast starter so I don't expect him to start that many matches early in the season - ease him in.
Berba is not a fast starter so I don't expect him to start that many matches early in the season - ease him in.
Chris Coleman on Dimitar Berbatov: 'He's calm as a cucumber.'
he he, yeah i was just having a giggle at that. cool chris, cool...
Just seen his celebration on the highlights. The hand gesture towards the stands.
Taking the piss out of Benitez, a la Evra?
Taking the piss out of Benitez, a la Evra?
doubt it, nobody gives a feck a bout Jafa,
he was just saying it's over in my opinion, because we were under the kosh and he killed off the game finally
I don't believe some people in this thread. Just because you criticise some aspects of his game today you're repeating the old "Berba is lazy and shit" and instantly become a berba-basher? No you fecktard, you're saying that he could've done certain things much better today, which he could've.
I was impressed by his general link-up play with Chicharito, which we also saw with Owen during last year's pre-season, but at times he took one or two touches too many which saw us lose good opportunities. There was one instance where he with a simple pass with the outside of the foot could've released Chicharito with the whole Chelsea half to run at Hilario, but instead he took a touch too much, spun around, looked for another team-mate and Chelsea managed to get back and defend. Obviously these are things that he'll do better once he gels with Chicharito and learns the latter's patterns of movement, which will see it becoming an instinctive partnership. That said, there were still details that saw us lose out on potential goals due to his willingness to take an extra touch at times, which is probably what djemba's arse was referring to when he said something along the lines of "Same old, I'm afraid".
This game was a step forward for Berba, and I was really pleased to see him get his goal in the end, but to say that the performance was flawless and that he didn't show some minor details that have frustrated fans in the past, ie taking too many touches and decreasing the directness of our game, that's just an exaggeration just as the constant Berba-bashing is.
I was impressed by his general link-up play with Chicharito, which we also saw with Owen during last year's pre-season, but at times he took one or two touches too many which saw us lose good opportunities. There was one instance where he with a simple pass with the outside of the foot could've released Chicharito with the whole Chelsea half to run at Hilario, but instead he took a touch too much, spun around, looked for another team-mate and Chelsea managed to get back and defend. Obviously these are things that he'll do better once he gels with Chicharito and learns the latter's patterns of movement, which will see it becoming an instinctive partnership. That said, there were still details that saw us lose out on potential goals due to his willingness to take an extra touch at times, which is probably what djemba's arse was referring to when he said something along the lines of "Same old, I'm afraid".
This game was a step forward for Berba, and I was really pleased to see him get his goal in the end, but to say that the performance was flawless and that he didn't show some minor details that have frustrated fans in the past, ie taking too many touches and decreasing the directness of our game, that's just an exaggeration just as the constant Berba-bashing is.
Bit careless a couple times with the ball but, that doesn't make it his worst game. He actually seemed to do a lot of running today, trying to get behind the defenders and closing down. From that side he had a good game.
Good signs with forming a partnership with Chicha but, I am still convinced that he and Rooney will work as well - they don't necessarily have to play the ball to one another but, the work Berbatov does to say get the ball to the wings and then to Rooney is still foundation of a good partnership (something that happened on a few occasions last season) - they have a very good understanding in the middle of the partk but, need to translate that to the final 1/3 and even more so inside the 18 yard box.
Good signs with forming a partnership with Chicha but, I am still convinced that he and Rooney will work as well - they don't necessarily have to play the ball to one another but, the work Berbatov does to say get the ball to the wings and then to Rooney is still foundation of a good partnership (something that happened on a few occasions last season) - they have a very good understanding in the middle of the partk but, need to translate that to the final 1/3 and even more so inside the 18 yard box.
not his worst but not his best. TBF in our first real competitive match I wasnt expecting much from anyone but if he can pull a goal and some good interchanges on poorish form, then good form bodes well.
really think he will mesh well with hernandez aswell. Owen type runs with 18 year old owen pace.
Berba-revival:
This will be the year he comes through in flying colors. Excellent appearance, yesterday!
This will be the year he comes through in flying colors. Excellent appearance, yesterday!
i saw him play in Warsaw (Poland-Bulgaria game) he was directing all his team mates all half long (he played only 45 mis). He often does in United games as well.
i think he could be a good coach in the future
Lets hope so. An inform Berbatov could be the key to winning the Champions League this year.
I have to say this, Berbatov has to be one of the more sympathetic players our there. In terms of skills, potential and the character he seems to possess I seriously hope his season will be successfull. His skills are sublime and his talent undisputed, what lacks is a steady run of quality-performances. Hopefully he feels more confident in himself this year around. I am for sure one of the doubters when it comes to this player's chance of becoming a success with us, that said: nothing would make me more happy than if he proved me wrong. He must be a terrific guy to have in the team in terms of the culture. He has the potential of becoming one of the greatest or one of the flops. One can't want anyone to be a flop, can one? No. Fingers crossed and thumbs up.
Something that I realized with some of the analysis of his performances yesterday is the comments that he didn't see some passes that were on and lost possession.
His normal games usually consiste of where he is good with the ball and plays quite a few passes on for people but, either because they don't score or he doesn't - his performances get put down as another mediocre / useless performance.
The idea that he maybe dallied one or two times when a pass was on for Chicha makes the performance weak is a bit strange unless we examine every player out there to such minutia.
Parts of his game weren't per norm but, then obviously the goal and other times when he was making runs or working hard for the ball, his calm when it came necessary to dictate play when Chelsea were on the front foot and we needed to close out the game - that all makes for a pretty good performance.
One time he won it and then ended up taking 2-3 players on and lost it but, the commentators said "United fans will like that from him" - personally I find that a bit condescending - as a fan I appreciate hard work but, that should not be what is going to endear me to Berbatov if I was a "basher" - his goals/assist/creativity is what will make me appreciate him. Can he get on the ball enough and influence the game - that is more important than him being a tryer.
His normal games usually consiste of where he is good with the ball and plays quite a few passes on for people but, either because they don't score or he doesn't - his performances get put down as another mediocre / useless performance.
The idea that he maybe dallied one or two times when a pass was on for Chicha makes the performance weak is a bit strange unless we examine every player out there to such minutia.
Parts of his game weren't per norm but, then obviously the goal and other times when he was making runs or working hard for the ball, his calm when it came necessary to dictate play when Chelsea were on the front foot and we needed to close out the game - that all makes for a pretty good performance.
One time he won it and then ended up taking 2-3 players on and lost it but, the commentators said "United fans will like that from him" - personally I find that a bit condescending - as a fan I appreciate hard work but, that should not be what is going to endear me to Berbatov if I was a "basher" - his goals/assist/creativity is what will make me appreciate him. Can he get on the ball enough and influence the game - that is more important than him being a tryer.
Hopefully Berbatov can continue his class start to the season. Really looking forward to seeing this combination with Hernandez. Given their apparently complimentary styles, it really feels like a good match.
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