I do, Top
she was perfect for him, he seemed almost happy and content ( as much as he could be ) well, less tormented then, when he was with her
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I do, Top
I too agree. I hated Lumen right at the start but she definitely has grown on me throughout the season.
People are looking at it wrong. It means that Dexter is alone and has no one to share with at all. The person he has truly shared himself with can't live that life and has abandoned the dark passenger. Dexter can't change his ways, he's alone. Even Harry's been distant this series. The only way they can go forward for me is a final season of Dexter going along with no barriers to his murders, and really exploring his darker side. A sharp downfall in his whole world and finally being outed and on the run or caught.
I'll be absolutely shocked if that ever happens. Probably in a good way, because I thought this season lacked the shock-factor.
Agreed!
It was an absolutely terrible finale to a very average season.
I'm horribly disappointed with the way they handled everything.
I'm horribly disappointed with the way they handled everything.
The finale was a bit 'meh'. You always knew that Jordan Chase would be killed and it was pretty obvious Deb wouldn't find out. The actual Jordan Chase death scene was so poor in comparison to the usual standard. Even the way Dexter got the upper hand by hiding a knife (despite the fact that he'd apparently fallen down a flight of stairs with the knife either behind his back or on him somewhere) felt tacked on as if they had a limited amount of time and too many boxes to tick.
They never explored Jordan Chase's character or got him to explain the things he'd done. He became a pantomime villain, snarling and laughing maniacally.
In fact, they never even mentioned the fact that Dexter had happened upon the scene of the woman who helped Jordan and who he killed. He was a public figure who would have been recognised going to and from her house, so it isn't beyond the realms of possibility that someone would have linked Jordan Chase to the murder, which would have opened the whole thing up.
The Quinn situation is interesting because Quinn now knows Dexter killed Liddy. Ultimately they'll have to either have him killed off or have some sort of situation where Dexter breaks his code and kills him. Again, that just feels like a re-run of the Doakes storyline in the first couple of series. But this feels wrong as he knows from what Liddy said that Dexter was involved in something big, so he should surely be at least curious to know why Liddy was killed.
Ultimately, the show should be ended by Dexter either being killed or with him shedding his 'dark passenger'. Because the show has gone on so long now he's gotten out of too many close shaves and they may feel they do need the big payoff of him being exposed as a monster. Which would be an interesting way too flip it after they've worked so hard to get the audience to empathise with a serial killer.
They never explored Jordan Chase's character or got him to explain the things he'd done. He became a pantomime villain, snarling and laughing maniacally.
In fact, they never even mentioned the fact that Dexter had happened upon the scene of the woman who helped Jordan and who he killed. He was a public figure who would have been recognised going to and from her house, so it isn't beyond the realms of possibility that someone would have linked Jordan Chase to the murder, which would have opened the whole thing up.
The Quinn situation is interesting because Quinn now knows Dexter killed Liddy. Ultimately they'll have to either have him killed off or have some sort of situation where Dexter breaks his code and kills him. Again, that just feels like a re-run of the Doakes storyline in the first couple of series. But this feels wrong as he knows from what Liddy said that Dexter was involved in something big, so he should surely be at least curious to know why Liddy was killed.
Ultimately, the show should be ended by Dexter either being killed or with him shedding his 'dark passenger'. Because the show has gone on so long now he's gotten out of too many close shaves and they may feel they do need the big payoff of him being exposed as a monster. Which would be an interesting way too flip it after they've worked so hard to get the audience to empathise with a serial killer.
It wasn't bad, just really uninspiring. Not sure how believable the whole part about Deb catching them and then letting them go was. It's like they wanted to finally create the whole 'she caught him' scene, without doing anything that will seriously alter the show. So she caught him, but didn't.
We've probably been spoilt by the previous season. I'd still rank this season as third best, after 4 and 1. Better than 2 and 3. In a way it's wierd to think it was just three months ago we saw the first post-Rita episode. Now she and the whole 'How Dexter will handle is' is almost forgotten. Never expected Lumen to stay, just happy they didn't just kill her off as that would have been so expected.
So no grand cliff hanger waiting for the next season. Still be watching it, no question 'bout that! They'll have to think of a really good new route to take Dexter too, but it's hardly impossible.
We've probably been spoilt by the previous season. I'd still rank this season as third best, after 4 and 1. Better than 2 and 3. In a way it's wierd to think it was just three months ago we saw the first post-Rita episode. Now she and the whole 'How Dexter will handle is' is almost forgotten. Never expected Lumen to stay, just happy they didn't just kill her off as that would have been so expected.
So no grand cliff hanger waiting for the next season. Still be watching it, no question 'bout that! They'll have to think of a really good new route to take Dexter too, but it's hardly impossible.
Seems you're alone, at least in how much you disliked it.
Smashing that plate at the end was the most human thing he's ever done. Perhaps next season will actually see Dexter exploring his dark passenger...a lot of things over the course of the series seem to show Dex as someone for whom some very important choices were made by other people; Harry, Rita, the guys who killed his mom, even his brother, he is growing more and more aware of who he is and I think the character is starting to find might have more dimensions than a killer who follows a certain code.
Anyway, today's new is that Michael C. Hall and Jennifer Carpenter are filing for divorce. I don't know how that will impact the show but.. that is the news.
I think I have had enough of Dexter really. I am at 24's point in Dexter where I thought it was ok to end it.
I think I have had enough of Dexter really. I am at 24's point in Dexter where I thought it was ok to end it.
agree on the lonely part. He has realized that he can't change what he is.
I don't know what has been planned for the next season. It could be plausible that they might end the series next season and your storyline could be one of the ways it might end. But it seems unlikely, atleast in the coming season, with Harrison and the kids in the picture. In addition, with Lumens departure, it allows leeway in taking the story in a different direction.
"there is a killer on the prowl".
I don't know what has been planned for the next season. It could be plausible that they might end the series next season and your storyline could be one of the ways it might end. But it seems unlikely, atleast in the coming season, with Harrison and the kids in the picture. In addition, with Lumens departure, it allows leeway in taking the story in a different direction.
"there is a killer on the prowl".
So you won't be watching the next season then.
I am with you. Worse than season 3 for me.
That's the thing though, I'm a bit shocked at all the positivity here, the general consensus everywhere else is that this was a very poor season by the standards of Dexter. Nobody I know thought it was that good, and the finale was a major cop out and left things so bare for next season. I was too in need to sleep to go into specifics last night but...
Where to even begin with the plot holes? There's no point going on about them all, but the one that pissed me off above all else was the fact that the police also knew that Jermaine Greer was Jordan Chase, and they don't even consider looking up properties that he owned? Given that they're mad after him and trying to get warrants and 24 hour surveillance, this doesn't even pop into their heads? No, of course not, because then Dexter wouldn't be able to go and find Jordan before the cops did.
There's been so many plot holes like that this season that they've just kinda ... added in there and tried to purposely ignore for the sake of progressing the story, which gave me the impression that, unlike previous seasons they didn't have a notion where they were going with the plot, I mean the 2 brothers storyline just completely disappeared. No more talk of finding Trinity, who has killed hundreds of people. Deb gets suspended for a year, and all of a sudden she's back again an episode later, with absolutely no explanation as to why. The whole thing was a mess.
The finale itself though was the biggest let down of all, I could've forgiven the other frailties if they had the balls to actually make something of this for the Sixth season, but they didn't. The scene were Deb 'finds' Dex and Lumen just pissed me off so much, I really think they fecked up big time here, there was so much potential for a storyline where Deb knows who Dexter is going into S6, but they didn't do it, and now we're going to have the same old shit with Dexter cheekily running around and stealing evidence files (right in front of Deb today, but let's not go into that) and getting there ahead of them and getting out of these tight little spots etc etc.
And Quinn at the end, what the feck was with that? He asked for a lawyer! But Dexter makes the blood turn out as not being his (how convenient, as always) and suddenly all is well and he's there at the party happy as larry.
And Lumen, the seasons major plotline, a character I've hated throughout but finally towards the end she had purpose, she made Dexter more interesting again, and what do they do?
"Eh, I've to go, this whole Dark thing ain't in me no more, bye"
feck off. Yet again they've bottled it leaving even less potential for S6.
There's been so many plot holes like that this season that they've just kinda ... added in there and tried to purposely ignore for the sake of progressing the story, which gave me the impression that, unlike previous seasons they didn't have a notion where they were going with the plot, I mean the 2 brothers storyline just completely disappeared. No more talk of finding Trinity, who has killed hundreds of people. Deb gets suspended for a year, and all of a sudden she's back again an episode later, with absolutely no explanation as to why. The whole thing was a mess.
The finale itself though was the biggest let down of all, I could've forgiven the other frailties if they had the balls to actually make something of this for the Sixth season, but they didn't. The scene were Deb 'finds' Dex and Lumen just pissed me off so much, I really think they fecked up big time here, there was so much potential for a storyline where Deb knows who Dexter is going into S6, but they didn't do it, and now we're going to have the same old shit with Dexter cheekily running around and stealing evidence files (right in front of Deb today, but let's not go into that) and getting there ahead of them and getting out of these tight little spots etc etc.
And Quinn at the end, what the feck was with that? He asked for a lawyer! But Dexter makes the blood turn out as not being his (how convenient, as always) and suddenly all is well and he's there at the party happy as larry.
And Lumen, the seasons major plotline, a character I've hated throughout but finally towards the end she had purpose, she made Dexter more interesting again, and what do they do?
"Eh, I've to go, this whole Dark thing ain't in me no more, bye"
feck off. Yet again they've bottled it leaving even less potential for S6.
The show has completely run its course for me, they've fecked up big time this season, and it has to end next year.
Maybe the gap between seasons will refresh your interest and I suppose it's worth pointing out that a lot of people were complaining about season 3 and then look what happened with season 4.
Just a few things mate...
Maybe the gap between seasons will refresh your interest and I suppose it's worth pointing out that a lot of people were complaining about season 3 and then look what happened with season 4.
Maybe the gap between seasons will refresh your interest and I suppose it's worth pointing out that a lot of people were complaining about season 3 and then look what happened with season 4.
I think its set itself up to be a brilliant 6th Season.
The only problem I can see is theres new baggage again with the kids back... so hopefully they'll skip through the summer 
Ikor:
Here's a lot of issues I'd agree with, taken from other places:
Oversights like this do happen in the police, but yeah it seemed somewhat weak.
The brothers case had run its course, it was a Deb development story and when she shot the brother it no longer mattered. Plus I'm pretty sure the cop who screwed her over story will be back next season. Although the writers killing stories dead isn't anything new.
Had it? There were 2 of them, they killed one, I know it was a development story for Deb, but it was abandoned as soon as she shot one of them, the case was by no means closed, they'd dedicated quite a lot of time to it, and for what? Debra shooting someone?
She got suspended for a year? My recollection was she was put on filing duty for a month and when she uncovered the fact there was more than one barrell killer that was rescinded for the greater good.
Suspended/Taken off/put on files, it was most certainly not just for a month though, it was until next year or something along those lines. It was made public to the press, as if it was dead on set that she'd be stuck in the filing room and not allowed near a crime, but all of a sudden she finds some overlooked evidence and everything is all well and good again?
I'll give you the fact that the finale was a bit underwhelming but I disagree that Deb should have found out. Exploring the dark passenger that appears to be growing inside Deb should lead them to that revelation with a much better payoff.
Well we're obviously never going to see eye to eye on this then, but what I will say, is that the constant bullshit of Dexter having these glorious coincidences and cock ups by the police so that he constantly gets away with everything is becoming so unbelievably tedious and frustrating, even in this episode stealing the evidence folder from right beside Deb, how the hell would she not notice that, or at least realize later that it's GONE? Are they all a bunch of fecking retards or something?
At least if Deb found out we'd be less likely to have that crap in future.
So he asked for a Lawyer? No idea why that makes any difference whatsoever. Quinn had just got out of prison where he faced possible life, the end of his career, the end of his relationship with the woman he loves for something he didn't do. He knows Dexter could have easily let him go down for it and that Dexter didn't even though he knew Quinn was snooping around him. Not suprising he would be happy I'd say, we've no idea where the Quinn story will go though.
See a post below from another board which describes it perfectly for me, amongst other idiotic things.
Torn on this because I quite liked Lumen but I'm not really sure what else they could have done with their relationship. The whole story was to develop Dexter's character and I think that had run its course when they became a couple.
Again, agree to differ, I didn't like Lumen, you did.
The brothers case had run its course, it was a Deb development story and when she shot the brother it no longer mattered. Plus I'm pretty sure the cop who screwed her over story will be back next season. Although the writers killing stories dead isn't anything new.
Had it? There were 2 of them, they killed one, I know it was a development story for Deb, but it was abandoned as soon as she shot one of them, the case was by no means closed, they'd dedicated quite a lot of time to it, and for what? Debra shooting someone?
She got suspended for a year? My recollection was she was put on filing duty for a month and when she uncovered the fact there was more than one barrell killer that was rescinded for the greater good.
Suspended/Taken off/put on files, it was most certainly not just for a month though, it was until next year or something along those lines. It was made public to the press, as if it was dead on set that she'd be stuck in the filing room and not allowed near a crime, but all of a sudden she finds some overlooked evidence and everything is all well and good again?
I'll give you the fact that the finale was a bit underwhelming but I disagree that Deb should have found out. Exploring the dark passenger that appears to be growing inside Deb should lead them to that revelation with a much better payoff.
Well we're obviously never going to see eye to eye on this then, but what I will say, is that the constant bullshit of Dexter having these glorious coincidences and cock ups by the police so that he constantly gets away with everything is becoming so unbelievably tedious and frustrating, even in this episode stealing the evidence folder from right beside Deb, how the hell would she not notice that, or at least realize later that it's GONE? Are they all a bunch of fecking retards or something?
At least if Deb found out we'd be less likely to have that crap in future.
So he asked for a Lawyer? No idea why that makes any difference whatsoever. Quinn had just got out of prison where he faced possible life, the end of his career, the end of his relationship with the woman he loves for something he didn't do. He knows Dexter could have easily let him go down for it and that Dexter didn't even though he knew Quinn was snooping around him. Not suprising he would be happy I'd say, we've no idea where the Quinn story will go though.
See a post below from another board which describes it perfectly for me, amongst other idiotic things.
Torn on this because I quite liked Lumen but I'm not really sure what else they could have done with their relationship. The whole story was to develop Dexter's character and I think that had run its course when they became a couple.
Again, agree to differ, I didn't like Lumen, you did.
Here's a lot of issues I'd agree with, taken from other places:
The whole Liddy thing was a joke. Quinn seemingly willing to keep quiet for Dexter what, because of his love for Deb that he's developed over the last 10 episodes? Is that what they were trying to have us believe? And what, Dexter says "thanks for keeping shtum Quinn, and don't worry, I'll fiddle the blood-work and get you out of this pickle"? It's funny how in other episodes, they would have the blood tests sent out of the station. You would think this would be especially important when the suspect and victim are both cops. All the other evidence pointing to Quinn, (phonecalls, hired equipment), nah just ignore that, because it's not Liddy' blood on his shoe.
To add insult to insult, they have a little cast reunion party at the end, seemingly to celebrate the continuation of some terrible casting choices. LeGuerta and Batista vow to start again. Great! It's going to be fascinating watching you re-start a relationship we never cared about to begin with. Masuka gets a girlfriend, ironically the most believable character development of the season, considering how much of a freak he is. And Quinn shows up, happy and even thankful to Dexter, whom he now knows is a killer.
One of the funnier jokes the writers played on the viewers is having Jordan Chase set a "trap" for Dexter in the shape of a bright yellow JCB in the middle of the road. It's almost as if he knew Dexter would be having an argument with Harry (about how careful to be) at that exact point of his journey. Seemingly he gave Dexter enough credit to know he was going to track him down, but not enough to think he had the eye-foot coordination to hit the brakes.
Also amusing was Deb's absolute confidence in her long-shot theories of a vigilante couple. She didn't even need to check who was behind the curtain. Couldn't possibly be say, other members of Chase's gang. She didn't need to ask who they were, have a glimpse or even get them to confirm that her theory was correct.
To add insult to insult, they have a little cast reunion party at the end, seemingly to celebrate the continuation of some terrible casting choices. LeGuerta and Batista vow to start again. Great! It's going to be fascinating watching you re-start a relationship we never cared about to begin with. Masuka gets a girlfriend, ironically the most believable character development of the season, considering how much of a freak he is. And Quinn shows up, happy and even thankful to Dexter, whom he now knows is a killer.
One of the funnier jokes the writers played on the viewers is having Jordan Chase set a "trap" for Dexter in the shape of a bright yellow JCB in the middle of the road. It's almost as if he knew Dexter would be having an argument with Harry (about how careful to be) at that exact point of his journey. Seemingly he gave Dexter enough credit to know he was going to track him down, but not enough to think he had the eye-foot coordination to hit the brakes.
Also amusing was Deb's absolute confidence in her long-shot theories of a vigilante couple. She didn't even need to check who was behind the curtain. Couldn't possibly be say, other members of Chase's gang. She didn't need to ask who they were, have a glimpse or even get them to confirm that her theory was correct.
Sonya never even bothered to book the magician for Harrison's birthday party.
Nice continuity error in the red car with Harry, Dexter had white gloves orginally and then suddenly was wearing black gloves.
Nice continuity error in the red car with Harry, Dexter had white gloves orginally and then suddenly was wearing black gloves.
1) What the hell happened with the Santa Muerte killers? Deb shot one of them but isn't the other guy still out there? Did they just drop the case?
2) Aside from the rest of the season, there were too many 'happy' coincidences in this episode too: a) Crashed car at the camp that was stolen from the other crimescene, are they not gonna connect those two facts. b) Dexter having that knife from his kill kit on him before getting out of the crashed car (and Chase not checking him for weapons). c) The plastic sheeting conveniently seperating Deb from the 'vigilantes'.
3) LaGuerta is stupid as we know, but come on, even if the bloodwork got him off, is she really that dumb not to have thought that Quinn asking for a lawyer and being connected to a dodgy cop with a van full of surveillance gear MIGHT have had something to do with Dexter seeing as he was reluctant to give up on that investigation for so long? I mean, jesus.
2) Aside from the rest of the season, there were too many 'happy' coincidences in this episode too: a) Crashed car at the camp that was stolen from the other crimescene, are they not gonna connect those two facts. b) Dexter having that knife from his kill kit on him before getting out of the crashed car (and Chase not checking him for weapons). c) The plastic sheeting conveniently seperating Deb from the 'vigilantes'.
3) LaGuerta is stupid as we know, but come on, even if the bloodwork got him off, is she really that dumb not to have thought that Quinn asking for a lawyer and being connected to a dodgy cop with a van full of surveillance gear MIGHT have had something to do with Dexter seeing as he was reluctant to give up on that investigation for so long? I mean, jesus.
One thing that disappointed me was Debra never got to kill anyone. I thought the purpose of the story with the 2 brothers was to show Deb didn't feel any emotion when she killed 1 of them, and in a way was similar to Dexter. I would've thought by bringing that into the season, they'd have her kill Jordan Chase or Quinn or even Lumen.
I hope they build on this in the next season. It's like her investigation of Harry's past in season 4 - she spent all that time finding out Harry's past, discovers Dexter is related to the Ice-truck killer and then nothing.
In my opinion it would have been good if she discovered Dexter was the one who was killing Chase's goons and then she tries to go after Dexter in the next season, with her new found 'no-emotions when I kill someone' character.
I hope they build on this in the next season. It's like her investigation of Harry's past in season 4 - she spent all that time finding out Harry's past, discovers Dexter is related to the Ice-truck killer and then nothing.
In my opinion it would have been good if she discovered Dexter was the one who was killing Chase's goons and then she tries to go after Dexter in the next season, with her new found 'no-emotions when I kill someone' character.
FWIW Cina, I agree with you regarding and the season.I would have loved not to
Ikor:
Had it? There were 2 of them, they killed one, I know it was a development story for Deb, but it was abandoned as soon as she shot one of them, the case was by no means closed, they'd dedicated quite a lot of time to it, and for what? Debra shooting someone?
Yeah I think it probably had for this season as the bigger story took over. It obviously isn't just Deb shooting someone though is it, it is Deb shooting someone and liking it. It isn't the first time they'd killed a developing story though.
Suspended/Taken off/put on files, it was most certainly not just for a month though, it was until next year or something along those lines. It was made public to the press, as if it was dead on set that she'd be stuck in the filing room and not allowed near a crime, but all of a sudden she finds some overlooked evidence and everything is all well and good again?
I'm 99% sure that when she confronts Laguerta she tells her it will be for about a month and probably less.
Well we're obviously never going to see eye to eye on this then, but what I will say, is that the constant bullshit of Dexter having these glorious coincidences and cock ups by the police so that he constantly gets away with everything is becoming so unbelievably tedious and frustrating, even in this episode stealing the evidence folder from right beside Deb, how the hell would she not notice that, or at least realize later that it's GONE? Are they all a bunch of fecking retards or something?
At least if Deb found out we'd be less likely to have that crap in future.
Yeah that is our opinions differing. I'll add just because we didn't see him put the file back doesn't mean he didn't. Oh and is it shocking Deb would probably not suspect Dexter? Hell she almost married the ice truck killer ffs.
Here's a lot of issues I'd agree with, taken from other places:
The whole Liddy thing was a joke. Quinn seemingly willing to keep quiet for Dexter what, because of his love for Deb that he's developed over the last 10 episodes? Is that what they were trying to have us believe? And what, Dexter says "thanks for keeping shtum Quinn, and don't worry, I'll fiddle the blood-work and get you out of this pickle"? It's funny how in other episodes, they would have the blood tests sent out of the station. You would think this would be especially important when the suspect and victim are both cops. All the other evidence pointing to Quinn, (phonecalls, hired equipment), nah just ignore that, because it's not Liddy' blood on his shoe.
I did think something similar myself but thought perhaps Laguerta had the blood work done by Dexter in order to keep it as in house as possible, no point in creating an outside furore before they knew Quinn had done it. You'd like to think as soon as something with a member of a team happens it would move to a different department/station but I've no idea how these things work.
The other evidence was circumstantial, the blood was the only real evidence against him.
To add insult to insult, they have a little cast reunion party at the end, seemingly to celebrate the continuation of some terrible casting choices. LeGuerta and Batista vow to start again. Great! It's going to be fascinating watching you re-start a relationship we never cared about to begin with. Masuka gets a girlfriend, ironically the most believable character development of the season, considering how much of a freak he is. And Quinn shows up, happy and even thankful to Dexter, whom he now knows is a killer.
What did you want, them to all be killed off? It's the cast they have and give or take a few is the cast that has been in it from early on.
One of the funnier jokes the writers played on the viewers is having Jordan Chase set a "trap" for Dexter in the shape of a bright yellow JCB in the middle of the road. It's almost as if he knew Dexter would be having an argument with Harry (about how careful to be) at that exact point of his journey. Seemingly he gave Dexter enough credit to know he was going to track him down, but not enough to think he had the eye-foot coordination to hit the brakes.
Do we know that was a trap? Plus even if it was Jordan would have probably expected Dexter to have been panicked (he'd said as much), distracted and speeding in an area he wasn't familiar with.
Also amusing was Deb's absolute confidence in her long-shot theories of a vigilante couple. She didn't even need to check who was behind the curtain. Couldn't possibly be say, other members of Chase's gang. She didn't need to ask who they were, have a glimpse or even get them to confirm that her theory was correct.
No arguements there, didn't like that at all.
Sonya never even bothered to book the magician for Harrison's birthday party.
Nice continuity error in the red car with Harry, Dexter had white gloves orginally and then suddenly was wearing black gloves.
Really? That is just nitpicking. We saw about 5 minutes of the party, who's to say the magician didn't arrive before/after.
Name me a show that doesn't have continuity errors, they all do, even the best ones.
1) What the hell happened with the Santa Muerte killers? Deb shot one of them but isn't the other guy still out there? Did they just drop the case?
After the clusterfeck of the club shooting then perhaps the case was taken off them? Maybe that story will continue next season.
2) Aside from the rest of the season, there were too many 'happy' coincidences in this episode too: a) Crashed car at the camp that was stolen from the other crimescene, are they not gonna connect those two facts. b) Dexter having that knife from his kill kit on him before getting out of the crashed car (and Chase not checking him for weapons). c) The plastic sheeting conveniently seperating Deb from the 'vigilantes'.
Didn't realise he'd stolen it from the crime scene but yeah that is a little lame if true.
3) LaGuerta is stupid as we know, but come on, even if the bloodwork got him off, is she really that dumb not to have thought that Quinn asking for a lawyer and being connected to a dodgy cop with a van full of surveillance gear MIGHT have had something to do with Dexter seeing as he was reluctant to give up on that investigation for so long? I mean, jesus.
Aye she is stupid, maybe she will think it but what evidence has she got pursue it? It's a leap of faith to take as a viewer that Dexter is a character that not only is a killing machine but also an expert on blending into the background and avoiding suspicion.
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Oh and something to lighten the mood a little
You're very generous to the writers Ikor, you seem to have a lot of faith that all this coincidental stuff is actually plausible and not down to them constantly making calamitous feck ups
I can't stop thinking that they rushed Jordan Chase (who had the potential to be a very special character) kill.We never got to understood his proper reasons for becoming what he is (it was very briefly explained).As a main "bad guy" I thought they wasted his character.
You're very generous to the writers Ikor, you seem to have a lot of faith that all this coincidental stuff is actually plausible and not down to them constantly making calamitous feck ups
It's a TV show mate, you shouldn't expect 100% realism everytime.
Obviously not Dwayne, but if you did look at my earlier posts you'd realize I'm saying all this in relation to previous seasons, where they never had as much plot holes or inconsistencies or near on miracles that helped Dexter get out of awkward situations. The writing in this show has gone so downhill.
I think there were probably more plot holes in that finale than the entire first season.
So how will it end? Like, the whole thing.
Surely there's not many ways it can go?
Surely there's not many ways it can go?
This is for me the biggest problem.It's something which hasn't evolved from season 1.
I really expected at the very least to see Debra finding about him so it would bring big changes for the 6th season.Big (but logical and interesting) changes are what make series last even longer without the boredom
My understanding is that the original writing staff are no longer associated with the show. I do agree that there were a fair few indulgences as far as plot goes this season, they may have been rushed.
One thing to consider is that Dexter knows what he is doing and does it very well. He also has a great cover and no one suspects he is capable of any of what he does. He hides in plain sight, as Harry trained him to.
Some of the other things you mentioned are understandable in my view. The FBI took over the Trinity case and Miami Metro are just a local police force, you can expect a bit of bumbling along in some investigations.
My bet is the series will finish with Dexter killing himself.
I disagree, it would be rare for a serial killer to take his own life.
When the series does close I reckon it will be faily open ended, life goes on so to speak.
Nah, I think he'll be on death row.
I hope they don't go down the route that's being hinted at with him losing his 'dark passenger' and ending up all happy.
I hope they don't go down the route that's being hinted at with him losing his 'dark passenger' and ending up all happy.
Him geting caught would make an excellent final season, I'll give you that.
His childhood coming out for everyone to know, his life as he made it, Trinity and Rita, etc. You could almost imagine a jury acquitting him.
His childhood coming out for everyone to know, his life as he made it, Trinity and Rita, etc. You could almost imagine a jury acquitting him.
I have a feeling the final scene will be him sailing away on his boat with a sunset in the background. He'll probably symbolically throw his kill tools in the water too.
Good one, the boat has been pretty important to him for the entire series.
Slice of life. Love that name.
Cina is being way too critical and Ivor is being too generous. It's somewhere in the middle.
Is it?
Nobody has found anything to contradict the plot holes I've pointed out so far.
Take a look at this thread Sol, it seems you're the ones being too generous. The season has had poor reviews, and the finale has had poor reviews so far.
(US) Dexter Season 5 Episode 12 - "The Big One" (SPOILERS WITHIN) - boards.ie