De Gea Replacement

Who is your preferred replacement for De Gea?

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I would be very happy with Cech. Never really noticed this bad with his feet stuff. Plus its not the main thing for a goalkeeper anyway and he's solid with all the important stuff.

Never seen Leno but he has a strong rep right now so he could be an interesting choice. Lloris looks dodgy so I will be disappointed if he is the De Gea replacement. Will probably get ripped off by Levy too
 
Falcao is anything but a 'typical LVG signing', but he was available and Van Gaal himself said she was too good to turn down. Granted it never worked out but it showed he can be a pragmatist sometimes.

If this was 5-10 years ago you can make a case for LVG being stubborn with the players he goes for, but I don't think he'll turn down a keeper of Cech's caliber if he were available at a reasonable price. Its also a myth that he's not good with his feet, we've just been spoiled by De Gea and VDS who were exceptional in that regard.
 
Sunny Jim said:
Metro says we are intrested in Muslera.
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He looked a very good keeper at the last two world cups tbf, especially 2010. Looks better than Ospina and Navas, im surprised those two got moves to bigger teams. He's taller than them as well at 6'3 and probably even more agile. I'd take him for the reported price of 15M. He seems to fit the profile. Good age, height, shot stopping and good with the ball at his feet

 
Attila said:
I would be very happy with Cech. Never really noticed this bad with his feet stuff. Plus its not the main thing for a goalkeeper anyway and he's solid with all the important stuff.

Never seen Leno but he has a strong rep right now so he could be an interesting choice. Lloris looks dodgy so I will be disappointed if he is the De Gea replacement. Will probably get ripped off by Levy too
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It very much is for van Gaal. Lindegaard got replaced with Valdes because of this, I don't think he'll replace de Gea with someone who isn't capable of doing so. The keeper plays an important role in the buildup from the back and must be comfortable enough to deal with instructed backpasses, they also take part in the position play. Constantly booting it away under pressure means Cech will lose his place to Valdes in weeks..

It's not that Cech isn't good at it, but he isn't 2 footed and just not good enough on that front. Rather see a talent come in who's good at both.
 
NL Max said:
The keeper plays an important role in the buildup from the back and must be comfortable enough to deal with instructed backpasses, .
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This is very important. Throughout the year, fans have complained that we do a lot of backpasses to the GK and I think this is how we will continue to play this year, so the GK must be comfortable receiving the ball (sometimes under pressure) and dealing with the incoming ball, with his feet.
 
It's either stick with Valdes, or sign Lloris. Only two options really, if DDG does indeed leave.

Cech is a good keeper and fits my personal preference for a tall, authoritative GK but I think those two fit LvGs preference more.
 
sunama said:
This is very important. Throughout the year, fans have complained that we do a lot of backpasses to the GK and I think this is how we will continue to play this year, so the GK must be comfortable receiving the ball (sometimes under pressure) and dealing with the incoming ball, with his feet.
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Yep, this is why I'm pretty sure we're not after Cech. Krul was a better keeper than Cillessen and Vermeer at the WC, but he was terrible with his feet. Vermeer, who van Gaal said fits the profile perfectly was his number one, is exactly like Valdes: small but with great passing. When Vermeer got benched at Ajax he took Cillessen in his place because of match rhytm. Cillessen isn't great with his feet, but better than Vorm and Krul - exactly why they weren't playing.

Van Gaal wants a good passing keeper and I'm sure of it. His latest 2 times within two years he had to choose keepers he chose for them, why would he change his opinion now while he's seen how important the keeper was?

I could see Lloris as the expensive option but rather see a upcoming talent, I've read there's plenty about.
 
NL Max said:
Yep, this is why I'm pretty sure we're not after Cech. Krul was a better keeper than Cillessen and Vermeer at the WC, but he was terrible with his feet. Vermeer, who van Gaal said fits the profile perfectly was his number one, is exactly like Valdes: small but with great passing. When Vermeer got benched at Ajax he took Cillessen in his place because of match rhytm. Cillessen isn't great with his feet, but better than Vorm and Krul - exactly why they weren't playing.

Van Gaal wants a good passing keeper and I'm sure of it. His latest 2 times within two years he had to choose keepers he chose for them, why would he change his opinion now while he's seen how important the keeper was?

I could see Lloris as the expensive option but rather see a upcoming talent, I've read there's plenty about.
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Because I would think van Gaal has realized that goalkeeping in the premiership is a different beast than in any other league. Passing ability for a goalkeeper is all good. But his main job is still to stop goals. The amount of aerial ball and physical contact that the keeper has to deal with here means that he has to adjust to that if he's not from this league. I think Valdes is good enough goalkeeper in all other aspect of his game. But I don't know whether he could learn that fast enough to become a reliable no 1.
 
reelworld said:
Because I would think van Gaal has realized that goalkeeping in the premiership is a different beast than in any other league. Passing ability for a goalkeeper is all good. But his main job is still to stop goals. The amount of aerial ball and physical contact that the keeper has to deal with here means that he has to adjust to that if he's not from this league. I think Valdes is good enough goalkeeper in all other aspect of his game. But I don't know whether he could learn that fast enough to become a reliable no 1.
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I very seriously doubt that, he isn't going to change his fundament from his style of play. He's never hinted at that before either and he signed Valdes so he obviously deems him good enough and wants his keepers to be able to pass. Wether he'll be 1st or 2nd choice I'm not sure but I rather see a talent come in who's physical and good with his feet to rotate with Valdes. I don't see the point in buying another stop-gap keeper like Cech when we could look to settle that position for many years to come if we buy someone younger who does fit the profile.

We've seen how important de Gea's passing and handling of backpasses was this season, I'd be terrified if we get a keeper who doesn't know how to deal with them. It'd be even more suicidal than Valdes at corners vs Crouch.
 
Loublaze said:
He looked a very good keeper at the last two world cups tbf, especially 2010. Looks better than Ospina and Navas, im surprised those two got moves to bigger teams. He's taller than them as well at 6'3 and probably even more agile. I'd take him for the reported price of 15M. He seems to fit the profile. Good age, height, shot stopping and good with the ball at his feet

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I also prefer Muslera

Whenever I've seen him I found him a very good goalkeeper. Reminds me of De Gea in fact, tall, agile, good shot stopper and not bad with his feet.
 
NoArroJusBeta said:
I also prefer Muslera

Whenever I've seen him I found him a very good goalkeeper. Reminds me of De Gea in fact, tall, agile, good shot stopper and not bad with his feet.
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This

I hear Arsenal are also in for him. Whats wrong with them? They just can't buy a decent keeper can they? They shouldn't have overlooked Muslera over Ospina. Anyway, if I had the choice between Muslera and Lloris i'd go for the former. Lloris is not worth 30M. Also, feck Spurs and Levy
 
Flying_Heckfish said:
It's either stick with Valdes, or sign Lloris. Only two options really, if DDG does indeed leave.

Cech is a good keeper and fits my personal preference for a tall, authoritative GK but I think those two fit LvGs preference more.
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Why ?

Lloris will be extremly expensive knowing Spurs and Valdes is questionable at best. Was watching the Cl final yesterday with a mate that is a Barcelona fan and I asked him what he though of Valdes in his last season at Barca and if he was any good. He said he wasn't good at all, found him very doddgy with slippery hands and prone to making silly errors. He was very glad Valdes left, did not consider him good enough for a club that has the ambition to win the Champions league or compete for a title and it is exactly the feeling I have always had when watching Valdes play for Barcelona.

Cech is an alternative

Muslera is also an alternative

Also don't see why Leno couldn't be an alternative (altough not linked with him yet)
 
I've tried to be positive about this but deep down know we will be worse off whoever we get mainly because every other gk in the world parries/punches for fun and we have one who actually holds the ball, getting rid of so many problems before they even become them.
 
AKDevil said:
I've tried to be positive about this but deep down know we will be worse off whoever we get mainly because every other gk in the world parries/punches for fun and we have one who actually holds the ball, getting rid of so many problems before they even become them.
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You're very negative. De Gea is not the beginning and the end. If we can improve our defence next season we don't even necessarily need a great goalie, or our new keeper won't have to bail us out as much as De Gea did this season.
 
AKDevil said:
I've tried to be positive about this but deep down know we will be worse off whoever we get mainly because every other gk in the world parries/punches for fun and we have one who actually holds the ball, getting rid of so many problems before they even become them.
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I feel the same, we are pretty much downgrading regardless, you can't underestimate how valuable a keeper who catches the ball and holds it is, especially in the PL where box melees are common.
 
Seriously, how many goalkeepers in this world can boast having good passing ability while being excellent at the prime quality a goalkeeper must have first and foremost (stopping shots)? What we need beyond individual skills is a goalkeeper who commands his area. After all, it's no coincidence that so many great teams of the past also had goalkeepers as part of the main core of leaders.

It'd be even more suicidal than Valdes at corners vs Crouch.
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Really? No, there's nothing more suicidal than that in the Premier League.
 
Loublaze said:
He looked a very good keeper at the last two world cups tbf, especially 2010. Looks better than Ospina and Navas, im surprised those two got moves to bigger teams. He's taller than them as well at 6'3 and probably even more agile. I'd take him for the reported price of 15M. He seems to fit the profile. Good age, height, shot stopping and good with the ball at his feet

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Dont know much about him, but Youtube makes him look good, how did he reach up and get that after 28 seconds, looks Brave as well.
 
Red For Ever said:
Dont know much about him, but Youtube makes him look good, how did he reach up and get that after 28 seconds, looks Brave as well.
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He's been totally overlooked over the years it seems. His distribution is also very good. He could be a great bargain signing for us.
 
NL Max said:
I very seriously doubt that, he isn't going to change his fundament from his style of play. He's never hinted at that before either and he signed Valdes so he obviously deems him good enough and wants his keepers to be able to pass. Wether he'll be 1st or 2nd choice I'm not sure but I rather see a talent come in who's physical and good with his feet to rotate with Valdes. I don't see the point in buying another stop-gap keeper like Cech when we could look to settle that position for many years to come if we buy someone younger who does fit the profile.

We've seen how important de Gea's passing and handling of backpasses was this season, I'd be terrified if we get a keeper who doesn't know how to deal with them. It'd be even more suicidal than Valdes at corners vs Crouch.
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Because I don't think Cech was that bad at passing. He may not be as good as Dave or Valdes, but it's still passable enough. And I van Gaal has demonstrate in the past he's flexible enough to change when the situation requires it. And Cech hardly a stop gap. If he came here now he'll be younger than van Der Sar when he came here. If he can give us 6 season like Edwin did, it'll hardly be a stop gap.
 
I think we'll end up getting a keeper who's at a similar level to Valdes and Van Gaal will let them battle it out for the number 1 position in pre season. I can't see us spending too big when we have requirements in other areas. Or maybe another youngster to be Valdes' understudy for a year or two? There isn't really an easy option unfortunately.
 
Oddboy said:
I think we'll end up getting a keeper who's at a similar level to Valdes and Van Gaal will let them battle it out for the number 1 position in pre season. I can't see us spending too big when we have requirements in other areas. Or maybe another youngster to be Valdes' understudy for a year or two? There isn't really an easy option unfortunately.
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We have unlimited budget.
 
GlastonSpur said:
There's no such thing.
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We have a budget that is sufficient to buy anyone we want who is available and address all our issues. Doesn't matter if it takes €50m or €250m.

We could probably buy Tottenham and make them our reserves.
 
Sarni said:
We have a budget that is sufficient to buy anyone we want who is available and address all our issues. Doesn't matter if it takes €50m or €250m.

We could probably buy Tottenham and make them our reserves.
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Does it matter if it takes €500m or €1,000m? If so, the budget is not unlimited, which is the simple point I made before you chimed in with your "ooh-look-at-us-and-and-all-our-money". You'd probably be happier if MUFC stood for Moneybags United Football Club.
 
GlastonSpur said:
Does it matter if it takes €500m or €1,000m? If so, the budget is not unlimited, which is the simple point I made before you chimed in with your "ooh-look-at-us-and-and-all-our-money". You'd probably be happier if MUFC stood for Moneybags United Football Club.
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No, we cannot spend €1bn but it'd not be feasible to spend €1bn in our position and be within squad limit. There are 18-20 players here who have to be registered next year, we can only sign 5-6 players maximum.
 
Lloris' quotes are interesting.

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co...anchester-united-transfer-news-lloris-9409511

"I think every player wants to play this competition because it’s a high level and we work for that, we work every day for that and I hope to get there and there’s a chance in my career to play Champions League.

"For the moment there is a goalkeeper at United and we are watchful of his situation.

"You have to keep a certain calm with all this.

"If things should happen then they’ll happen naturally."
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If there was ever a player angling for a move to a club....
 
He's on his way. Always worried by how nervous/flappy he looks at spurs. Scrutiny/pressure will only be greater at united.
 
ThanksBoss26 said:
Yes, I think he fancies it. Prising him out of Spurs is a different matter though.
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He's put himself in this position though, you don't move to Spurs if you want to go to a big club later.
 
Sarni said:
He's put himself in this position though, you don't move to Spurs if you want to go to a big club later.
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...like Bale and Modric?
Personally I would prefer Cech, I think he is a better keeper and we don't have to deal with a pain in the ass like Levy.
 
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