De Gea Replacement

Who is your preferred replacement for De Gea?

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HabeasC said:
For a billion, we could buy four Spurs
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One for each boot. That'd be enough for two cowboys. Two cowboys would be enough to round up ten cattle. Ten cattle would almost be enough to form a football team made up of several varieties of cow ... but you'd still be short of a jersey between the sticks.
 
SonnyTheHaloPro said:
If we sign Lloris he might even end up being better than De Gea, you never know.
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I like Lloris, but at 28, I don't think he's going to suddenly jump up a notch. I think we'd basically be getting a slightly worse De Gea (significantly worse with the ball at his feet) for what should be his peak years. Safe move and a smart one, but I don't think the ceiling is that high.

In terms of price, if there was ever a swap that made sense, it would be something like Rafael + 12 for Lloris, with Spurs getting the money to buy a very good keeper and a better right back than Kyle Walker who Van Gaal doesn't seem to rate but has the enthusiasm Pochettino likes.
 
NoPace said:
I like Lloris, but at 28, I don't think he's going to suddenly jump up a notch. I think we'd basically be getting a slightly worse De Gea (significantly worse with the ball at his feet) for what should be his peak years. Safe move and a smart one, but I don't think the ceiling is that high.

In terms of price, if there was ever a swap that made sense, it would be something like Rafael + 12 for Lloris, with Spurs getting the money to buy a very good keeper and a better right back than Kyle Walker who Van Gaal doesn't seem to rate but has the enthusiasm Pochettino likes.
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Dunno man, look how sick VDS was even into his late 30's, Same with Buffon. Plus Lloris has incredibly fast reactions, you don't really lose those when you age. If we get Lloris this summer he can be our keeper for the next 8-10 years easily imo.
 
SonnyTheHaloPro said:
Dunno man, look how sick VDS was even into his late 30's, Same with Buffon. Plus Lloris has incredibly fast reactions, you don't really lose those when you age. If we get Lloris this summer he can be our keeper for the next 8-10 years easily imo.
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I think Lloris relies more on athleticism more than VDS did, so won't age as well (and very, very few keepers do anyways). I see him as a better version of Tim Howard. I'd lower that likely figure from 8-10 to 5-7 (33-35 years old).
 
You don't lose fast reactions when aging?

VdS could stay at the top that long, not because fast reaction, but excellent positioning and superb concentration. He's also tall, an advantage when collecting crossing.
 
NoPace said:
I like Lloris, but at 28, I don't think he's going to suddenly jump up a notch. I think we'd basically be getting a slightly worse De Gea (significantly worse with the ball at his feet) for what should be his peak years. Safe move and a smart one, but I don't think the ceiling is that high.
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Goalkeepers dont hit their peak till they are like 30 or 32. Thats why the top ones play close till they are 40.
 
[QUOTE="Isotope, post: 17409556, member: 64936"]You don't lose fast reactions when aging?

VdS could stay at the top that long, not because fast reaction, but excellent positioning and superb concentration. He's also tall, an advantage when collecting crossing.[/QUOTE]

Not when your in your mid 30's you don't. You're crazy if you don't think VDS had fast reactions.
 
I'd be happy if we buy a young replacement with Valdes taking charge for a season or 2. As far as De Gea is concerned, I'm happy with whatever he decides.
 
RDCR07 said:
Goalkeepers dont hit their peak till they are like 30 or 32. Thats why the top ones play close till they are 40.
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I feel that is sort of a myth. The likes of Buffon, Casillas, Cech were all good in their 20s. And De Gea, Courtois, Neuer became elite GKs in their early 20s. GKs primes do last longer than outfield players though.
 
Wednesday at Stoke said:
feck Lloris, I want Cech, he'd be the 2nd best goalie in the league and this is a great situation for him to swap Chelsea for.
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Yeah, I'd love to get Cech even if he declined a bit this past few years, he still a top class keeper with loads of experience in the premier league. But it seems Valdes signing made much more sense now. I think Van Gaal will pick Valdes as his no 1, and buy a young keeper as an understudy.
 
Keeps It tidy said:
I feel that is sort of a myth. The likes of Buffon, Casillas, Cech were all good in their 20s. And De Gea, Courtois, Neuer became elite GKs in their early 20s. GKs primes do last longer than outfield players though.
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They are/were all good. I never said they werent. But their peaks come later in their careers. And if you think the last three are anywhere near their prime, then you are sadly mistaken.
 
Forget about United for a minute, if he's willing to go to Real, after boasting about how much Atletico means to him when he joined us, then feck him!

I wouldn't mind if he wanted to go to Barca but, an Atletico kid? After all the club done for him? After the open letter he sent to fans? After the banner the fans had for him and the fact they still sang his name when he joined us?

If he joins Real, he can do one!

Dave the snake!
 
RDCR07 said:
They are/were all good. I never said they werent. But their peaks come later in their careers. And if you think the last three are anywhere near their prime, then you are sadly mistaken.
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Cech was at his best 04-06. And Iker is only 33 and has been on the slide for three seasons.
 
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RedSky said:
Leno is the obvious choice if we want a young experienced goalkeeper. Im pretty sure we've been looking for keepers for a while. Wouldnt shock me if we start with Valdes while our new signing gets used to the country and settles in the squad.
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Wasn't Leno the one who had a stinker against us last year when a Moyes team managed to put five past him? If so, I can't shake that from my head!!
 
I dun understand, why the rush to go back Spain? He is still young and still have plenty of time to move to Madrid.
 
Is it possible that he could fark us over by running down the contract so that RM gets him on a free?
 
I agree that VDS lasted longer and was at his best due to his height and positioning rather than fast reactions.

You look at Buffon and Iker they aren't the same players they were. They were keepers that relied on reactions. Even Seaman near the end was poor. Where as Schmeichel was pretty good even late on in his career.
 
Lloris, Cech, Johnstone, would be disappointed if we stick to Valdes/Lindegaard.. as backup goalies they are fine but not as no keeper..

And I think that we can find a keeper with good reactions Lloris is superb in this matter, I'd say he's stronger in the air than de Gea, not sure about his kicking technique..
 
Bernd Leno, think he's the next big thing in Germany as per GK.
 
Failing that, then get Cech. Lloris is good but if we've seen his full ceiling, then am not so impressed, he concedes some very easy goals.
 
Cech. It's important to have some experience while we build a sustainable back 4. Lloris would be second after that for me.
 
Lloris is the only one good enough from the ones available. With Hoek's coaching, I think he can be at the same level as Neuer and DDG. He is also familiar with the PL and should not have any problems adapting.
 
I'm not a massive fan of Lloris. He's obviously a good goalkeeper, but you just know Spurs will make us pay a ridiculous amount and I think he can be a little rash. He's like a Barthez in his eccentric ways. I still remember Barthez heading the ball out at times rather than actually punching/catching it at times. Lloris comes across like that to me too in how he just rushes out of the box.

I've not seen this Leno play, but he's highly rated and he's 23. I'd prefer going for these young up-and-coming goalkeepers.
Bold shout too but I wouldn't be against giving Johnstone a go. At least give him a go on the tour and see how he does and just delay any potential deals until we decide whether we like him or not.
 
I'm all for getting another young talent like Leno if DDG leaves, even if it's a gamble
 
Wish we could get Oblak (or someone with similar attributes).......really impressed with him. Not keen on LLoris nor Cech.
 
If DDG leaves than Cech is the best replacement without a doubt. He is highly experienced, PL and CL proven and one of those keepers that I think can perform on very high level even if he is 40. Imo the best keeper around behind Neuer, Courtois and De Gea atm. Also he wants to leave and chelsea is not going to keep him against his will so he will not cost the earth.

Begovic or Lloris could be alternatives to Cech if searching for experience replacement.

If we'd go for a younger player than these are the names that most impress me atm: Oblak, Leno, Forester and Mattew Ryan (club brugge).

What I definitely do not want to happen is that we play Valdes as DDG replacements. Never been impressed with Valdes's goalkeeping. I think he is a very good option to have as no.2 mainly due to his experience but not as a first choice goalkeeper. That would be more than a step down from DDG imo.
 
Goalkeeper is the position with which you want to feel at ease the most. Cech is the obvious candidate, albeit I would understand if Van Gaal were to press ahead with Valdes. The latter has fantastic distribution and knows how to organise a defence. The biggest issue is crosses. If he flounders at them then he can't be our goalkeeper.

With Cech you cut out any risk. Experienced, solid, consistent and privy to some outstanding shot-stopping. The only possible downside is that I don't recall him sweeping up like De Gea has done this season. I don't see why he can't, however.

Ideally, big Dave just signs that nice, fat contract and we don't need to worry about all of this.
 
My preference (it's EPL mainly, as I have very little knowledge of "lesser known/younger talents" from other leagues)

Cech
Lloris
Valdes (in that order).

Would Keylor Navas not be an option from Madrid? Though I'm not sure how he would fair in the EPL.
 
I would like us to sign a young goalkeeper like Leno as we have Valdes to ease him through for a season. However LvG doesn't seen to like rotating his keepers so don't know if that would work.
 
Sarni said:
Is Levy done lying on the beach laughing at £80m bid for Bale?
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Yes, because after that he went to the bank to drop in the nearly £92m (including add-ons) that we actually got.
 
GlastonSpur said:
Yes, because after that he went to the bank to drop in the nearly £92m (including add-ons) that we actually got.
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You didn't get £92m and you said it was going to take at least £160m to buy him back them.
 
Sarni said:
You didn't get £92m and you said it was going to take at least £160m to buy him back them.
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Yes, we did get nearly £92m: 85.2m + £6.5m later add-on because RM won the CL. And no, I didn't say £160m .... or at least not seriously IF I ever did say £160m.

But anyhow, this is a thread about GKs is it not?
 
GlastonSpur said:
Yes, we did get nearly £92m: 85.2m + £6.5m later add-on because RM won the CL. And no, I didn't say £160m .... or at least not seriously IF I ever did say £160m.

But anyhow, this is a thread about GKs is it not?
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You said that Levy would laugh at £80m bid and it'd take at least twice that to buy him. You're doing the same here. If United want Lloris, we will get him.

As for the latter point it is not your concert until you become a mod.
 
Sarni said:
You said that Levy would laugh at £80m bid and it'd take at least twice that to buy him. You're doing the same here. If United want Lloris, we will get him.

As for the latter point it is not your concert until you become a mod.
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As I've said, Spurs got nearly £92m for Bale (not £80m). And I've already responded to your £160m claim. As for Lloris to United, I'm up for a bet if you are.
 
GlastonSpur said:
As I've said, Spurs got nearly £92m for Bale (not £80m). And I've already responded to your £160m claim. As for Lloris to United, I'm up for a bet if you are.
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I don't think we want Lloris, what's the point of a bet? What is it with you offering bets to everyone, gambling addiction?
 
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