£60M is insane for a goalkeeper. If De Gea himself continues to have no intention of leaving there isn't any reason we should accept an offer but if he did, he'd be going for lower than that.
David De Gea
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We must be the only fans in the world who are happy to sell our one and only worldclass player for some not so good shiny new toy.
Zlatan and Pogba are world class. And the only reason any of us would be "happy" to sell him is if it meant a significant improvement to our attack (which Bale would be), because we can see the bigger picture. If we had a better team that was banging in the goals, our attitude would be very much "Do not sell under any circumstances" But that isn't the case.
Bale is 28 and relies on pace and power though, his shelf life is good for maybe another couple years before an inevitable decline. A 25 year old keeper like Dave, could give you another decade of quality service. Too many are thinking short term right now.
I don't want to lose him, it also continues to set a precedent where Real think they can come in and cherry pick players from our club.
No thanks.
I don't want to lose him, it also continues to set a precedent where Real think they can come in and cherry pick players from our club.
No thanks.
One and only world class player? Zlatan is the very definition of world class. Pogba is definitely world class too.
De Gea is probably the best keeper around, but with a good defence we can replace him with a keeper who will cope fine (not as well, but fine) and if we can get Bale or James in a deal, and DDG is wanting out anyway, then we should. He's going to go eventually as his lady ain't coming to live here.
Better to have a good but settled and happy Keeper who will stay for years to come, than a very good one who's always thinking of leaving.
De Gea is probably the best keeper around, but with a good defence we can replace him with a keeper who will cope fine (not as well, but fine) and if we can get Bale or James in a deal, and DDG is wanting out anyway, then we should. He's going to go eventually as his lady ain't coming to live here.
Better to have a good but settled and happy Keeper who will stay for years to come, than a very good one who's always thinking of leaving.
Ask for Kroos.
This guy is always spot on regarding De Gea. So it looks like we got a fight on our hands.
Niether zlatan nor pogba are really worldclass, it seems every half decent player today is worldclass or very good according to people. For me worldclass is atleast top 5 in the world in their position, i would have aguero, lewandowski, kane, aubemeyang, suarez ahead of zlatan. No offence to zlatan he is very good but he was worldclass, he isn't anymore. With pogba it is the other way around, he has the potential to be worldclass in a year or 2, maybe even best in the world, but he isn't there yet.
Also please show me which team in last 10 or so years has improved and won things after selling their best player especially with no other similar level talent in the team. Barcelona did not sell messi to get neymar and suarez they added them to messi. If we can get bale we must do everything possible but not at cost of weakening our defence to shore up our attack, that isn't the big picture that is robbing peter to pay paul. That isn't improvement.
I agree with your sentiment but Bale is actually 27 and De Gea is 26.
Hoping Dave stays but if we really are after Bale can see some sort of swap deal going down.
With atletico ban we wont be able to sign another high quality keeper , we must keep him for another year this year and should not listen to any other offers.
They can 'launch' to the moon for all I care, if they so desperately want him they will have to show us some quality dollar.
Why?
He'll be going for whatever we ask for.
The club has repeated on several occasions, Real would have to double the record for a keeper.
Pogba is not world class.
Then who is? Pogba is one of the most complete midfielders in the world. He's absolutely world class. That's why he's the most expensive player of all time.
Of course if you are crazy enough to offer us that amount. We would snap your hand off.
Have a feeling we'll soon be calling Dave, David
Name another better complete midfielder with the same age profile and injury record.
I agree with your wold class definition.... Untill you list kane...
Zlatan is not and kane is world class... Smh...
Right now he is, he has scored 20+ goals each season for last 3 seasons getting golden ball this season, if that isn't worldclass i don't know what is.
He's the most expensive player of all time because we had our pants pulled down and had our tiny cocks pointed and laughed at, by an Italian.
No, silly thing to say, why does anyone else have any bearing on anything? As though you're top of a heap of one, therefore you're world class? You name me one fecking thing he's done to be acclaimed world class? A world class player, especially one in his position, wins games on his own, or an essential cog in the teams wheel that has that team performing at a world class level. Paul Scholes was a world class player in that position. Pogba has done absolutely nothing yet.
Sorry, but it's 2017, not 90s. Whether he's a goalkeeper, a right back or a striker, if he's one of the best in the world, and he absolutely is, then he should and will command the going rate for players of that level, add to that the position of his current club as one not in desperate need of money. This is a world where Ederson, who has zero international caps has moved to City for about £35m. There's no way he should be going for anything less than £100m. It's a crazy market, we might as well play along and stop being the nice guys for once.
In my opinion, world class means being the best in your position, and for your info he was very important in winning us the Europa.
I'd agree that De Gea is an exceptional case, and the circumstances you've mentioned in addition to others, guarantee he'll go for a lot of money. However, a large sum is different for a goalkeeper compared to an outfield player, or more specifically an attacking midfielder or attacker. The latter are the 'players of that level' with a ~£60m+ going rate.
Even in these rare and exceptional cases, I can't see goalkeepers going for more than between that 30-50 range for a good while.
Fair enough. I would expect Spurs to not even consider an offer of 40m for him.
People are underrating keepers in this thread. Juve payed 50m euros or so for Buffon 15 years ago, and it surely was a great transfer. De Gea is almost as good as Buffon was, and the prices have skyrocketed since then.
Age profile and injury record have nothing to do with world class or not. Pogba is not yet WC but he will be. I've never seen Pogba have a season even of the standard of Yaya's peak at City, before we even get close Xavi's peak at Barcelona, Modric, Kroos. He's almost there but not quite yet.
Only reasons to sell de gea are a) we need the money to buy mbappe (if we arnt getting Griezmann then no such problem) or b) as a condition to get Kroos.
Kroos and 30 million gbp is a reasonable deal. We can say de geas worth 80 and real can say kroos is worth 50 and everyone can be satisfied.
Kroos and 30 million gbp is a reasonable deal. We can say de geas worth 80 and real can say kroos is worth 50 and everyone can be satisfied.
We clearly have a very different view on world class.
Harry kane is not world class. Go make a thread and I'd bet people will laugh at the notion that kane is world class... If world class by your definition is top 5 in their positon.
Ronaldo/messi/lewandowski/suarez/neymar, they're all head and shoulders and belly above kane
We just rejected 60m for de gea...
You're talking rubbish. 2 Cups and he scored in one of the finals. He will be here for about 10 years. It's an investment.
For me world class is having 2 teams play each other and those 22 players are the world class ones. We'd all have slightly different 22 players so those ones are arguably world class as well. Would Kane get a game if you picked the two teams to face each other? That's the question. For me Kane would not but he's a brilliant goal scorer.
I'd do a De Gea for Morata plus £20m from RM in a heartbeat. That money will go towards a nice goalie replacement.
Pogba is a fair way from even being the best midfielder in the Prem, let alone the world. The price you were suckered into paying for him is irrelevant.
Dave would have saved that first juventus goal...that's the difference a top goalkeeper makes.
Madrid will definitely be making a push for De Gea. There's not too many ways for them to improve their squad. Navas is a decent goalie, but he's not world class, and (clearly) he's not the Spanish #1. It's one position they can upgrade on. They just won the final comfortably, but they'll be looking to flex their muscles while freshening up the roster.
Now I think we should not sell him. The only way to stop madrid is stopping them from getting best player and it should start from ddg.
As I see it Real Madrid are our rivals and no amount of money should be accepted, we dont need money, we need World Class players and we hardly have any as it is so we must keep hold of him atleast for another season, we need to build and losing our rock at the back would be devastating
Ok, Glaston.
Well it won't be up to us if the man himself decides to leave. And if it were up to the club, I don't see us ever letting him go, not unless RM pay us 500mil so we could literally just replace our entire 11 with world class players. Which is needless to say extremely unrealistic, therefore we should never let him go.
We are never going to reach their level of we keep selling our best players to them.
Our player has just led them to 3 CL titles in 4 years.
Do not accept any bid under any circumstance.
Our player has just led them to 3 CL titles in 4 years.
Do not accept any bid under any circumstance.