David De Gea

Varane is one of the best CB talents in the world..

Hes overrated tbh. Very error prone and his injury record is also a bit of a joke
Isco on the other hand, I would take him here in an instant
 
Nothing, we would take him as part of the deal. It's Madrid who's after UTD's player so we have the upper hand.
I say that because you include three players. In my opinion Kovacic could be worth 40 million euros(or more) and Varane about 30, so I wonder how much you value Isco to calculate how much David would be worth.
 
I say that because you include three players. In my opinion Kovacic could be worth 40 million euros(or more) and Varane about 30, so I wonder how much you value Isco to calculate how much David would be worth.

I didn't say those 3 because I calculated their value to be the same as De Gea's. Because Madrid wants De Gea so bad we should ask for either ridiculous money or group of players of our choosing.

But if I must say, considering Isco isn't a regular at Madrid and the fact his contract expires in 2018, I'd say 25-30 million.
 
I didn't say those 3 because I calculated their value to be the same as De Gea's. Because Madrid wants De Gea so bad we should ask for either ridiculous money or group of players of our choosing.

But if I must say, considering Isco isn't a regular at Madrid and the fact his contract expires in 2018, I'd say 25-30 million.
I think he will renew. In any case, it is complicated to swap a player, so imagine 3. If the negotiations reach that point, I hope they will find another alternative for the goal.
 
I think he will renew. In any case, it is complicated to swap a player, so imagine 3. If the negotiations reach that point, I hope they will find another alternative for the goal.

You're missing the point mate, Madrid is insisting on DDG and we can ask ridiculous fee or players that we won't because we're not in need of selling.

Yeah I hope also. Alternative from London perhaps? :drool:
 
Isco is so much better than Herrera it's not even funny.

Odd statement to make, completely different players. Herrera makes it difficult for the opposition to play and works his socks off, wins balls in the middle of the field, closes players down etc. He's not on the field to purely be a creative outlet like Isco is.

I don't see Isco doing Herrera's role and I don't see Herrera doing Isco's role.
 
Herrera makes it difficult for the opposition to play and works his socks off, wins balls in the middle of the field, closes players down etc.
Isco does all of this too, on top of being much more skillful than Herrera.

I think it was against Villarreal where Isco ran 6.1 kilometres in 32 minutes, which is ridiculous.
 
Isco does all of this too, on top of being much more skillful than Herrera.

I think it was against Villarreal where Isco ran 6.1 kilometres in 32 minutes, which is ridiculous.

Herrera averages 3 tackles and 2.9 interceptions a game. Isco averages 1.5 tackles and 0.6 interceptions a game. Isco really doesn't compare to Herrera in that area. Isco is a much better player at what he does, but that's where the comparison ends.

Regardless, we're going off topic so we'll agree to disagree.
 
Herrera averages 3 tackles and 2.9 interceptions a game. Isco averages 1.5 tackles and 0.6 interceptions a game. Isco really doesn't compare to Herrera in that area. Isco is a much better player at what he does, but that's where the comparison ends.

Regardless, we're going off topic so we'll agree to disagree.

I agree with you. Isco and Herrera are different players with different strengths. Herrera is more of the tackling and intercepting sort while Isco is more of the playmaking and dribbling sort. If Herrera played in the deeper role and Pogba and Isco played ahead of him, it could work out. But to have Pogba and Isco play together, you would need a disciplined DM who would break up play and distribute the ball to Pogba and Isco and just remain behind protecting the back four.
 
Let's be honest, De Gea is gone especially since his mansion is up for sale and if and when he does go, we need to get the players that would improve the team and I have a feeling that Morata may be that person since Zlatan won't be playing and we're a striker down. Morata is a quality striker and I believe Mourinho gave him his debut which implies he believes in his abilities. I think Morata may come in return for De Gea and probably some money.
 
100M for a 27yr old and 32yr old that don't want to be here and People cry over 89M for a 24yr old that wants to play for this club?

Fans are very strange.

Dont want to be here ? Alonso moved to bayern and won 3 titles in that league, so why cant it happen here ? While a world class keeper with a contract is worth the money as he's fully developed world class player.

No is is crying over 89 m pogba,
 
The field can withstand both Isco and Herrera playing together. That's a pointless comparison.
 
Dont want to be here ? Alonso moved to bayern and won 3 titles in that league, so why cant it happen here ? While a world class keeper with a contract is worth the money as he's fully developed world class player.

No is is crying over 89 m pogba,

you are getting your history wrong. kroos and alonso were not swapped, alonso left because the locker room was starting to become unmotivated, relaxed, party atmosphere (Ramos led team). He also wanted to learn under Pep since he has a desire to coach in the future.
 
you are getting your history wrong. kroos and alonso were not swapped, alonso left because the locker room was starting to become unmotivated, relaxed, party atmosphere (Ramos led team). He also wanted to learn under Pep since he has a desire to coach in the future.

I never mentioned the swap word did i?, Also it was mourinho who bought modric for madrid.
 
I know they're different kind of midfielders but surely you aren't implying Herrera is the better player?
Neither could do the job the other does at that level. I'd rather have Herrera at United because he's easily the best at what he does here. Herrera would slot right into your starting 11 too tbf replacing Casemiro and you'd be the better team for it but he wouldnt get in ahead of Isco for his role.
 
So are we forcing De Gea out? Sounds like a similar situation as to when Viera left Arsenal? Though I can't see David putting up much of a fight :lol:
 
The constant rumours in the media about DDG leaving and Hart coming in to "replace" him bring me out in a cold sweat. It's like replacing a Bentley with an Astra. Romero is a better keeper than Hart.
 
The constant rumours in the media about DDG leaving and Hart coming in to "replace" him bring me out in a cold sweat. It's like replacing a Bentley with an Astra. Romero is a better keeper than Hart.


The Hart of the past couple of seasons I agree sends shudders through me but if anyone can revitalise him them Jose is probably that man. Hart was outstanding under Mancini and had the De Gea knack of pulling off match winning saves. I can't see this happening but if it did it will probably eclipse any other transfer this summer in terms of intrigue.
 
The constant rumours in the media about DDG leaving and Hart coming in to "replace" him bring me out in a cold sweat. It's like replacing a Bentley with an Astra. Romero is a better keeper than Hart.

Yeah, those rumours are truly ridiculous.
 
I know they're different kind of midfielders but surely you aren't implying Herrera is the better player?

No , i am implying that an attacking midfeilder, and a central midfeilder can not be judged on common points, let alone saying one is better than the other, Apples and oranges.

If MKh or KDb is compared with isco it would make more sense.
 
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Yeah, those rumours are truly ridiculous.


They are just the English papers desperately trying to link Hart to a top club , a level he is not capable of . Its pretty consistent behavior by their standards.
 
No , i am implying that an attacking midfeilder, and a central midfeilder can not be judged on common points, Apples and oranges.
Who's the better player, Darmian or Messi?

Players don't have to play the same position to make out who's the best between them.
 
Who's the better player, Darmian or Messi?

Players don't have to play the same position to make out who's the best between them.
:lol:

Please, Its non sensical. Nither darmian can be as good as messi in attack , nither messi can defend on the same or better level than darmian.
 
They are just the English papers desperately trying to link Hart to a top club , a level he is not capable of . Its pretty consistent behavior by their standards.

Yeah I'm aware he's Britain's press sweetheart, much like Rooney in that regard.
 
:lol:

Please, Its non sensical. Nither darmian can be as good as messi in attack , nither messi can defend on the same or better level than darmian.
You can eat soup easier with a plastic spoon than with a silver fork but you know which one is worth more. Or don't you?
 
I hope that Mourinho and the board have such esteem in Herrera and not so much in Isco or Morata ... Danilo is definitely a better right back than Isco, in case that you need someone for that position :smirk:
 
I hope that Mourinho and the board have such esteem in Herrera and not so much in Isco or Morata ... Danilo is definitely a better right back than Isco, in case that you need someone for that position :smirk:

We don't need an Isco and if we did want to pursue that sort of player there are better options which would probably cost less ala Silva. Herrera is invaluable to us, there isn't another player in the squad who can do what he does with so much energy, in fact there isn't many players around who can play that role to such a standard all season long.

If you were to ask me for example, there's no chance I'd swap Herrera for Isco, even though Isco is the better player.