The Marca rumours were believable until I read Joe Hart.
David De Gea
- Thread starter Paxi
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Madrid won't care what the rest are offering. PSG could offer £100m and Madrid could offer £35m, but if De Gea doesn't want PSG then he won't join them.
And United don't have to (and more than likely won't) accept the 35m is the whole point. Jose has already said he will only sell players for the right offer. Madrid can pay up or get lost
I like him, but I don't think he's developed as well as he should have. He still makes a lot of silly, avoidable errors. He's good shot stopper, and is very commanding give his size, but he does tend to switch off, or do something daft. If we'd be looking for an English goalkeeper, I'd rather go for Butland, if he can return to fitness and the level he was at prior to his nasty injury.
Bayern hate us, they would never sell us a player that wasn't either crocked, or past it.
And then what? We have an unhappy player and the whole saga again the following summer, upon which we get a lower fee anyway. I'm not saying we should just take whatever they're offering, just that we don't hold as many cards in this as you think.
Like the last time? They will pay up if they want him and it will be a world record fee for a keeper.
Feck James or Morata, give us Isco for him you cnuts.
Isco, Kroos or Casemeiro tbh. Why should we settle for their squaddies when they're taking our first team player.
Honestly I wouldn't care if we sell DDG for 80m+ and use the money to buy-out Oblak.
Of course I would care if DDG leaves, however, not if we would also pay 80m+ for a keeper as Oblak seems to be the perfect (and maybe only suitable) replacement. We can't do with someone like Navas in the EPL, thus, we would need a strong big man.For this there are not that many targets in the market (Lloris, Oblak, Donna...). Since Lloris im impossiblabd Donna is way too young (I think), Oblak is the category of keeper we should go for.
Of course I would care if DDG leaves, however, not if we would also pay 80m+ for a keeper as Oblak seems to be the perfect (and maybe only suitable) replacement. We can't do with someone like Navas in the EPL, thus, we would need a strong big man.For this there are not that many targets in the market (Lloris, Oblak, Donna...). Since Lloris im impossiblabd Donna is way too young (I think), Oblak is the category of keeper we should go for.
The last time he stayed put in September only to ask away again? Or the last time when we were offered 29m for him?
We don't Kroos much imo. Pogba is doing his job. Casemeiro is the one we're missing in our midfield.
Feck Morata and james! This transfer must hurt Madrid as much as it hurts us. If we picking players it should be one of Kroos, Isco, Modric and casimero.
We also need someone who can play those forward passes from deep, without needing to take 15 touches to control the ball. Either or, I'd be over the moon with either tbh.
If the price is right and he wants to move sell him today and get in another keeper. If anyone doesn't want to play for man utd then go no matter how good they are. Get in oblak, donnarumma or lloris
Bernd Leno?
If we got Kroos we'll need to play 4-3-3 with him and Pogba CMFs but will need a heavy, heavy DMF behind both. Playing them alone in 4-2-3-1 will make the field a liability.
I really love Kroos but he'll somehow disturb our formation unless we bought a DMF with him as well. Remember how Madrid's midfield was a liability when Modric and Kroos were playing alone without a DMF ?
Last year of contract.
A midfield with like Kroos, Pogba and Fabinho would be tasty. It's all speculation of course, no chance we're getting one of the World's best midfielders when he's happy where he is.
Yeah that's what I meant regarding Kroos.
Regarding Morata, he's not bad but I was questioning his goal scoring numbers last season. He only scored 7 goals in Serie A last season with Juve, but this season he scored about 18 goals in all competitions despite being benched for Benzema most of the season. Don't know how this contradiction is real.
I think we need wide players and creative players more than we need strikers imo. We need both, but I think we could make do with Martial and Rashford next season, don't see us winning shite unless we sign some quality players in other attacking areas though. Someone like a Bernardo Silva and a proper pacey winger, like a Douglas Costa or a player of that ilk. Signing a backup striker in the mould of Chicha etc, could be more than enough to get us through next season with some silverware (assuming we strengthen the other areas, of course)
If we were to go for a top class striker to lead the line, I'd expect us to get someone better than Morata. Belotti looks a top prospect but he hasn't been doing it for too long, could be a risk. Of course there's the flavour of the season, Mbappe, but we'd have to spend ridiculous money and I don't see him moving this season. Icardi?
I hope we're in for Griezmann though, he plays as a striker for France iirc (could be wrong), but regardless of if he's behind the striker or up top himself, he scores a feck load of goals and doesn't need a thousand chances to bury one. Exactly what we need.
Going from De Gea to Joe Hart is like going from Ronaldo to Obertan
No, we need a striker badly. Martial and Rashford are very good but believe me, at this age it's near to impossible to have both playing with consistent performance through the whole season. They'll be up and down and we need a striker who consistently puts the ball in the back of the net. Rashford is still good as a sub at the moment but still need one or 2 years before becoming our main forward.
No doubt that we need wingers badly. The only winger we got is Martial. Mata and Mikhi are number 10 players, Rashford is a striker and Lingard seems to play better centrally more than on the flank. We'll need to spend some heavy load of money on both a striker and a winger to challenge for the striker. Even if we got Griezmann I think we'll need another one with him, too.
Morata isn't my first choice and I think we can find much better solutions for him but if Jose wants him then who knows what he sees in him. I'm not following Madrid regularly though I don't know when did he scored those 18 goals while he's benched all time while last season with Juve only scored 12 goals in 48 matches. Maybe his style suits Madrid more than a more defensive cautious team as Juve ?
Ye, I agree about the experience and I don't see us going into next season without us buying a top class forward anyway. Just hope we don't neglect the other attacking positions. Big summer ahead.
Yep. I'm very interested in seeing how our squad will be next season. Hope we get all the targets we want.
Yeah but the point is that it was very clear that Madrid undervalued him. They dragged their heels all summer and when it came down to it they pulled out of the deal. This isn't the kind of guy they're going to splurge their entire summer budget on.
Ask 80m or Bale(If he is interested) as a player exchange. If Real Madrid is not valuing De Gea for 80m, it is their problem.
Quite simply we don't need to accept Madrids valuation. We have left 450k per week(Rooney and Schweinstieger) worth of players at the bench almost for the whole season. We will only sell if the price is right.
There is no way we are getting Joe Hart. The whole story may be true but Hart won't play here next season.
Jose needs someone super-solid and blunder-free. Basically an anti-Hart.
Jose needs someone super-solid and blunder-free. Basically an anti-Hart.
I think if there is one RM player Jose will go for it will be Varane.
De Gea to Joe Hart is like going from Neymar to Bebe
But as soon as we received an offer for Bastian he was gone. It seems clear the only reason he didn't leave the previous summer was because there were no takers. We didn't make him rot in the reserves because he asked to leave and we said no, so it's a bit different. Jose has said he won't keep anyone here against their will, and I don't believe we'd make Dave sit in the stands for 3 years just to prove a point.
If he wants to go, and I hope he doesn't, then it's to Madrid and only Madrid. They'll stump up 30-40m in late August, or perhaps a nominal fee and a player or whatever. I just see all this talk of 60, 70, 80 million pounds as being a little off the mark.
Not really. I think he's a bit of a big slow lump who makes a lot of mistakes. There's not really a PL 'Keeper I'd be happy with us targeting as a potential replacement.
Meh. One of the top, top GKs in the world atm, but we don't absolutely need him to be successful under Mourinho. He's adored by the fans and the club, and rightly so for his goalkeeping efforts over the past three years, but he CAN be adequately replaced.
I accept what you said on Bastian. We couldn't move him and it was the only reason he was here. The example I gave is to say that we could even afford to leave big money players on bench.
Your second part is something which I completely disagree. Just because a player will go for only one club doesn't mean that a club which is of the financial stature as United will accept the buyers valuation. This is why I gave the above example that we don't worry about leaving the player on the bench if that is the only option. For this the apt example would be Fellaini. We didn't budge on Fellaini's Everton valuation and they told us to do one. Its us who ended up paying more to match their valuation at the end of the window. Having a capable keeper as Romero would mean that we can play hard ball to the end of the window and in a position to play the game better. In all seriousness Real Madrid has to cough up what we value(40m or 100m whatever) to get the player. Considering how it blow on their faces last time, this time Real Madrid would be clever enough to know their position. We wouldn't mind keeping De Gea for next season.
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We hold the cards this time and, to be fair, De Gea was entirely professional about the whole thing a couple of years back. Nothing to suggest he was a sulky teenager, he just kept his own counsel whilst van Gaal blethered about 'a process'.
If Madrid won't meet our requirements, we tell them no. De Gea is too big a man and too consummately professional to disrespect Manchester United. With a World Cup next summer, no way would he not be giving his all, same as he has every season.
To suggest Hart might replace him in any meaningful way, shape or form is risible.
If Madrid won't meet our requirements, we tell them no. De Gea is too big a man and too consummately professional to disrespect Manchester United. With a World Cup next summer, no way would he not be giving his all, same as he has every season.
To suggest Hart might replace him in any meaningful way, shape or form is risible.
Joe Hart can take his dandruff and feck off elsewhere.
Agree .. You can't shampoo your shit out..
Absolutely insane that he would join Real if he's an Atletico fan AND having played for them too.