David De Gea

Yep as said, 3 years left on the contract is the game changer even if he hands in a transfer request as we hold all the cards. If he wanted to go, I'm sure his agent wouldn't have entered initially into such a long contract as basically it made any future transfer to Real very difficult. That said it can still happen but I'm not convinced they would want to pay 60m for a GK as it's different than signing an outfield player as you just shoehorn the new player into the team like Bale yet keeping CR, goalkeepers it's like for like. You only gain if the existing keeper isn't that good, and from what I've seen, he's not their issue. They have CR who is one the way down IMO and Bale who injuries kept him out of the team for parts of the season.

I think if Madrids mouthpiece are saying €75m which is £63m. Which isn't a bad price for a keeper, but I'd like us to hold out for £70m or a couple of players.
 
I think if Madrids mouthpiece are saying €75m which is £63m. Which isn't a bad price for a keeper, but I'd like us to hold out for £70m or a couple of players.

Can't see it myself but you never know. It's a lot of money for a player they don't need. Also, why would we want to take players that are surplus to them? If we wanted them anyway, it would be cheaper to buy them outright than broker them as part of the deal as Real don't want them anyway....

If they are taking about anyone from the starting 11, it makes it even more laughable. Why would we take a player who's a makeshift for the deal who probably doesn't want to move anyway? Do you think any top players agent would except that and what about the players mentality knowing he's part of horse trading deal. We only want to sign players that want to come and not cause Real no longer want them. ADM never wanted to be here, Real just wanted the money.
 
Can't see it myself but you never know. It's a lot of money for a player they don't need. Also, why would we want to take players that are surplus to them? If we wanted them anyway, it would be cheaper to buy them outright than broker them as part of the deal as Real don't want them anyway....

If they are taking about anyone from the starting 11, it makes it even more laughable. Why would we take a player who's a makeshift for the deal who probably doesn't want to move anyway? Do you think any top players agent would except that and what about the players mentality knowing he's part of horse trading deal. We only want to sign players that want to come and not cause Real no longer want them. ADM never wanted to be here, Real just wanted the money.

The links are with Morata at the minute, he's had a rough time by not playing enough games, and apparently wants out. Jose has his link with Morata and with Ibra out, Griezmann and Morata would be good to replace him and Rooney. Provided he wants to come of course.

Although rare, top players do get made to be part of those deals. The whole deal with Eto'o and Ibrahimovic was a huge one. It didn't affect Eto'o in the slightest, infact it's just come out Jose got Eto'o to do the champions league finals speach, in which they won in 2010. If players will move, they'll be used part of the deal.

It probably would be cheaper to keep the deal separate, in which case each is dependant on the other anyway.
 
The real question is how badly does Perez want him and not if the RM team needs him. He has broken the transfer record five times. Perez is a megalomaniac billionaire - price tags have never really stopped him buying his toys.
 
That's not the first I've heard of Jose liking Hart.

I think I'd die a little inside if it happens.
 
If Marca are saying it could pass 75M Euros, then I think it's apparent to all parties that the fee will be a top end fee.

I'd still say get £50M plus a player we need (Casemiro/Varane).
 
The links are with Morata at the minute, he's had a rough time by not playing enough games, and apparently wants out. Jose has his link with Morata and with Ibra out, Griezmann and Morata would be good to replace him and Rooney. Provided he wants to come of course.

Although rare, top players do get made to be part of those deals. The whole deal with Eto'o and Ibrahimovic was a huge one. It didn't affect Eto'o in the slightest, infact it's just come out Jose got Eto'o to do the champions league finals speach, in which they won in 2010. If players will move, they'll be used part of the deal.

It probably would be cheaper to keep the deal separate, in which case each is dependant on the other anyway.

Morata is a nice player but I'd sooner sign a player cause he wants to be here than because he can't be at his current club for whatever reason....
 
I don't even see us getting that tbh.

I think any fee Madrid pay will be £40m max.
You're kidding right? Why would you think that? He has 3yrs left on his contract; We don't need money. It's either they pay up what we ask for or they feck off. now, If we ask for £40m that's another matter.
 
Madrid offered £29.3m and Navas in 2015 with De Gea in his last year of his contract. I think this time we should look to get around £70m.

No they didn't, Navas was part of the £29m valuation:
As of Monday night, he early indications were that Madrid would pay United around £19m and allow Keylor Navas - valued by the two clubs to be worth £10m - to head to Manchester as part of the deal. It brings the total valuation of the deal to £29m and Navas is expected be De Gea's direct replacement as first-choice in the United goal. Sergio Romero will be his understudy.

£60m is nothing in today's market, when any good player is valued around that figure or more, it would be stupid to sell a player who is top 3 in the world for his position with around 12 years at least left at the top level for such a relatively small fee. We don't need the cash.

Players need to start being held to the pieces of paper they sign that rewards them with 10s of millions. I'd rather we had him for 3 more years and won stuff with him than let him go for a fee that will hardly change our fortunes financially. If anything it'll cost us more in the long run as there's no one else we could realistically buy that's on the same level as De Gea.
 
Im suspicious that this is all coming from Marca.
 
De Gea said he was staying last summer by around June time. Not that it accounts for much these days. Let's see if we hear anything similar. I don't think he said anything in 2015, he just kept his mouth shut all summer.
 
Mou signed cech and courtois didn't he?

He signed neither.

I don't know if the manager was responsible for the transfer, but Villas Boas had just been hired a few weeks prior to Courtois signing for Chelsea, two years before Mourinho returned.

Ranieri was the manager when Chelsea completed the deal for Cech, but it was done in something like February, so he didn't join until the summer, when Mourinho took over.
 
You're kidding right? Why would you think that? He has 3yrs left on his contract; We don't need money. It's either they pay up what we ask for or they feck off. now, If we ask for £40m that's another matter.
He has three years but Jose has already said he won't keep anyone here who doesn't want to be. If De Gea asks to leave, he will in other words. He only wants Madrid so it's not like we can start a bidding war between clubs. We could go totally against this and force him to sit in the reserves but that'll only mean we get less for him next year.
 
Same stuff at the end of each season. Big English team players linked with Spanish clubs. Players in Spanish teams using English clubs for bigger contracts. Bayern cherry picking the best talent from other German clubs before the seasons even ended. Will he go, I'd sooner he stayed but do we need him in the same way, I'm hoping not as for the first time his highlight reel, will no longer require a DVD of the season. Sorry Big Dave but equally the trophy is actually going to Ibra this season...
 
He has three years but Jose has already said he won't keep anyone here who doesn't want to be. If De Gea asks to leave, he will in other words. He only wants Madrid so it's not like we can start a bidding war between clubs. We could go totally against this and force him to sit in the reserves but that'll only mean we get less for him next year.

On the contrary, if he wants to leave, United won't limit his sale to just Madrid. Are you forgetting Fergie called Barca to try and sell Ronaldo to them?
If he has asked to leave and we are willing to sell, then he will be sold to the highest bidder outside the prem. Likely Madrid but rest assured we would invite other offers to drive up the price.

Also if they don't pay up he stays, and De Gea wouldn't kick up much of a fuss in that case.
 
He has three years but Jose has already said he won't keep anyone here who doesn't want to be. If De Gea asks to leave, he will in other words. He only wants Madrid so it's not like we can start a bidding war between clubs. We could go totally against this and force him to sit in the reserves but that'll only mean we get less for him next year.
He also said, for the right fee. There's no way we'd let go Da Gea for less than £70m. Any half decent replacement would cost us upwards of £30m anyway.
 
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He has three years but Jose has already said he won't keep anyone here who doesn't want to be. If De Gea asks to leave, he will in other words. He only wants Madrid so it's not like we can start a bidding war between clubs. We could go totally against this and force him to sit in the reserves but that'll only mean we get less for him next year.

Managers always say that but rarely do they actually mean the top players. Real's cheque book isn't so significant as previously and years gone by, it would have been nailed on that the likes of a Pogba would have gone there this season. They will become more reliant on Spanish talent in Spain, and less on signings from other clubs as financially they can't compete with the top English clubs.
 
I really cant be bothered since faxgate. If he wants to push and move to play for that circus,be my guest. From getting supported from day one,to probably being booed or whistle at some point,or maybe they might even wave their white underwear at him,enjoy.
 
I really cant be bothered since faxgate. If he wants to push and move to play for that circus,be my guest. From getting supported from day one,to probably being booed or whistle at some point,or maybe they might even wave their white underwear at him,enjoy.

White underwear....I'm gonna steal that lol
 
Anything less than perfection in a Madrid shirt and he'll be hounded out.

These are fans who boo and whistle their legendary keeper Casillas out of the Bernabeu after a decline in form near the end of his time there. These are fans who still whistle Ronaldo despite all the goals he's scored for them. The kind of fans who bring out the white hankies when a player misplaces a pass.

De Gea, being from Altetico Madrid, and being an Atletico fan, had better be not be anything but flawless. That still probably won't be enough.
 
He signed neither.

I don't know if the manager was responsible for the transfer, but Villas Boas had just been hired a few weeks prior to Courtois signing for Chelsea, two years before Mourinho returned.

Ranieri was the manager when Chelsea completed the deal for Cech, but it was done in something like February, so he didn't join until the summer, when Mourinho took over.

Ah OK

Maybe we might see a hit and miss situation before we see someone of ddg standard again.

IF he leaves, I'll believe it when I see it
 
I couldnt care less anymore. The fact that he is on a lengthy contract means we will get a hefty fee. I thank him for his service and life moves on.
 
Hart? Seriously? Better to keep Romero and strengthen options in defence than waste money on Hart.
 
On the contrary, if he wants to leave, United won't limit his sale to just Madrid. Are you forgetting Fergie called Barca to try and sell Ronaldo to them?
If he has asked to leave and we are willing to sell, then he will be sold to the highest bidder outside the prem. Likely Madrid but rest assured we would invite other offers to drive up the price.

Also if they don't pay up he stays, and De Gea wouldn't kick up much of a fuss in that case.

Meaningless if De Gea only wants Madrid, which we know for a fact. Why would he even listen to offers from anyone else when his girlfriend in Madrid is half the reason he's moving?

He also said, for the right fee. There's no way we'd let go Da Gea for less than £70m. Any half decent replacement would cost us upwards of £30m anyway.

I don't see us getting anything above 40, as I said above. He might be worth that to us but the fee we get will be severely undervaluing him imo.
 
Meaningless if De Gea only wants Madrid, which we know for a fact. Why would he even listen to offers from anyone else when his girlfriend in Madrid is half the reason he's moving?

HE doesn't have to, but if Madrid want him, then they will have to pay the asking fee. If we get an offer for 50m from somewhere else we don't have to sell for less. It will be up to madrid to put their money where their mouth is. We hold all the cards, he has 3 years left on his contract and is the best keeper in the world.
De Gea as much as he wants to go to Madrid isn't going to shaft United either so Madrid will have to pay up.