Don't bother mate, ridiculous thought process of some in here.
Kroos PLUS cash? Jeez
David De Gea
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Don't bother mate, ridiculous thought process of some in here.
Kroos PLUS cash? Jeez
We won't be getting a player exchange, no chance. IMO, talks have already been quietly held between Real and DDG's agent and Jose is privy to this - we've told them the amount we want, and once this is offered he's gone.
I'm hoping it'll be at least £40million and closer to £50million.
I'm hoping it'll be at least £40million and closer to £50million.
Just stop. Please don't remind us. Word is that people within our camp vetoed Thiago and then Kroos. Obviously its speculation but it still stings. I imagine at least one of them would be true.
Sounds like Jose has decided that if DDG won't commit himself 100% to United then he can go. It will stop the constant speculation obviously, but he will be a huge loss. Hopefully United can get as much as possible from Real if he does leave. He is an incredible keeper but if he really wants to be somewhere else, then I suppose it's better to let him go and move on.
Let me put it right :
- Madrid want our best player;
- We are not willing to sell but the player want to move;
- The player can put a transfer request and force our hand, but he still has 3 years left on his contract which has no realese clause;
When you combine the 3 points, you come to the logical conclusion that we hold all the power in this case, meaning that we can ask any price we want!
It's the same case of us wanting Pogba or Griezman! Is Pogba an 89M player? No. We overpaid for Fellaini, Herrera, Shaw and Martial for the simple fact that we needed them and they were still under contract with their respective clubs who didn't want to sell.
If Madrid want DDG, let them force out hands and the only reason to do this is by giving us a record fee because De Gea is one of the top 2 best goalkeeper in the world.
One thing I like about Mourinho, is that we're not longer selling our players for peanuts and I am 100% confidence he'll make sure we got a good price for our best player!
With Mourinho and Woody at the club I feel Real won't have an easy ride getting DDG...
So I'm not fussed over his future, if he goes United will get a tonne of cash to spend.
So I'm not fussed over his future, if he goes United will get a tonne of cash to spend.
If we do sell, well lets just say I hope we take them to the cleaners (min £65m, but would like more) or get one of their players that we actually want rather than just someone they are offloading.
I agree with @LoveFootball, he has a 3 year contract, no clauses (that we know off), RM want him, we do not want to sell him, if this was the other way round we would be paying a record fee as usual.
If he wants to leave then he should hand a request in, and we then name our price, if RM do not match it we tell them to bugger off. I don't care if we are left with an unhappy player, you just tell them that RM do not value him as much as we rate him, and if he still sulks, well there is another keeper who would like the number 1 spot, especially whilst the world cup is coming.
I agree with @LoveFootball, he has a 3 year contract, no clauses (that we know off), RM want him, we do not want to sell him, if this was the other way round we would be paying a record fee as usual.
If he wants to leave then he should hand a request in, and we then name our price, if RM do not match it we tell them to bugger off. I don't care if we are left with an unhappy player, you just tell them that RM do not value him as much as we rate him, and if he still sulks, well there is another keeper who would like the number 1 spot, especially whilst the world cup is coming.
I don't see him sulking, he was very humbled how United fans remained supportive when he nearly left after fearing the crowd would turn on him and he's clearly not unhappy here.
I wouldnt be surprised if RM tries to push him that he hands in a transfer request just to put pressure on United. Good thing is, we dont need to sell and dont need the money either
Pretty much this.
I was speaking hypothetically, i.e. he has handed a transfer request in but still hasn't moved then he could start sulking. I'm not sure how supportive the fans will be if he hands in transfer request and we have another summer of 'will he won't he'. Last time, he kept quiet and professional, but he was obviously happy to leave without having to put a transfer request in, whilst we were also going through a bad patch and he was one of our best players, i think we were more relieved he stayed than supportive.
Romero is not a horror keeper. So if De Gea sulks, he just sits on bench till he gets his head straight.
Yep, and with the WC 2018 coming up, could well end up losing his place in the Spain team.
We genuinely do hold all the cards here, which is refreshing.
If we make champions league, It could be possible we keep him. I don't see Madrid making him what would be the third highest paid behind Bale and Ronaldo according to the reports. I think we will blow them out the water by offering De Gea a mega deal.
If Madrid don't get him this time, they'll go for another keeper, I've seen on the Madrid forum they're mentioning Ederson, I assume that the Benfica goalkeeper. He's 22 with potential. Madrid fans also don't even really want De Gea all that much. I could see them moving for Mbappe and signing a different keeper.
Edurne and David can have kids and they can live the life between Manchester and Madrid and then when De Gea is 40 and ridiculously rich, he can spend the rest of his days with them.
If Madrid don't get him this time, they'll go for another keeper, I've seen on the Madrid forum they're mentioning Ederson, I assume that the Benfica goalkeeper. He's 22 with potential. Madrid fans also don't even really want De Gea all that much. I could see them moving for Mbappe and signing a different keeper.
Edurne and David can have kids and they can live the life between Manchester and Madrid and then when De Gea is 40 and ridiculously rich, he can spend the rest of his days with them.
We need to tell RM it's £90,000,000 so Pogba can get that richest player in the world tag off his back
If we can get Oblak or Donnarumma. It's alright he he leaves.
I'd much prefer if we could get Kroos in return tho
I'd much prefer if we could get Kroos in return tho
Seems like he's on his way out. The guy has been patient but United has failed since Fergie left. I think Jose will get it right next season or the one after but De Gea can't keep hanging on. He could've been playing in Champions Leagues semi's every season.
Why you coming up with this shite?
Did he mime 'SOS' in Spanish and 'Hala Madrid' into the camera?
If the player wants to move you sell him for the highest price you can get, but that does not equate to you asking for any ridiculous price you want. What you can do is use the agent as leverage as they are usually the party with the most to gain if the deal happens and at a high price.
If you set a ridiculous price and the other club decides not to meet it, you risk being saddled with an unhappy player that can cause issues on the pitch, in the locker room and off the pitch, becoming a major distraction to the team. You cannot hinge your gamble on the professionalism of a player who wants to leave.
Imagine an unhappy GKs that lets in a few crucial goals, and if you dont play him, he simply sits out his contract for the next 3yrs, getting paid 200K and leaves on a free for a big sign up bonus and/or wages. GKs have longer career spans than outfield players, so he can afford to wait it out.
Despite all the talk of a top player sitting out a contract for years when has it ever happend?
De Gea will want to play otherwise he won't be involved in much international football and there's a certain tournament coming up.
I don't think he's desperate to leave the club either.
Can't see De Gea kicking up a fuss. He has too much respect for our club and the fans. Either Real meet our asking price or he stays. I'm sure he will accept that.
Loan him there for 6 months. He'll realise how shit it is playing for them and then get this Real Madrid nonsense out of his head once and for all
Totally this! He will realise Fergie was right all along with his cows and green gras.
Don't want him to ever leave. Came here when he was 20 and what a player he's turned out to be for us.
That save against Aguero's shot where he plucked it off mid-air was pure class. Very few keepers could do that.
That save against Aguero's shot where he plucked it off mid-air was pure class. Very few keepers could do that.
I love the man. Maybe too much, but I don't care.
Unfortunately when those Madrid cnuts showed up it always felt like at some point he is off to them, he is from Madrid his GF wants him to play for Madrid it's always going to happen can we stand against his will? I'm sick of selling players our best players to them hope Jose and ED do something about it.
I've been ambivalent about him leaving for a while now, but tonight reminded me why that was a stupid stance. Will be absolutely gutting to lose him. Jose set out for 2 complete shut outs this season: Liverpool and tonight, and De Gea was instrumental in achieving both.
The way it just sticks in his hands like he's got magnet gloves on is ridiculous. he's got such great hands he catches balls that other keepers could only dream about.
We go again. Good old Marca.
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Joe Hart? 
Do Marca even read the shite they print?
Do Marca even read the shite they print?So ddg has asked to leave as per marca are these the same sources who told ushow pogba called zidane and cried on the phone to get zidane to get him to madrid.
If he wants to leave let him go. Get 70-80m for him and bring in someone like Oblak. Our defence isn't as reliant on him under Mou as it has been with previous managers.
I know we're no mugs under Jose now but do you actually foresee us being able to get £80m? I'm assuming you meant pounds anyway?
Agreed, I think people will be sorely disappointed with the final sale amount. There is only one realistic destination for DDG and Madrid will play hard ball knowing that.
If he goes, it's okay. He has given us 6 years of his career and in a time when we haven't been very successful. He's a Madrid boy and wants to return home, I won't put that against him. I am just worried about a proper replacement who can fit his gloves.
Joe Hart?
Unbelievable. I got to that and was like wtf is this shit
Madrid offered £29.3m in 2015 with De Gea in his last year of his contract. I think this time we should look to get around £70m.
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Mou signed cech and courtois didn't he?
Yep as said, 3 years left on the contract is the game changer even if he hands in a transfer request as we hold all the cards. If he wanted to go, I'm sure his agent then wouldn't have entered initially into such a long contract as basically its made now any future transfer to Real very difficult. That said it can still happen but I'm not convinced they would want to pay £60m for a GK as it's different than signing an outfield player as you just shoehorn the new player into the team like Bale yet keeping CR, goalkeepers it's like for like. You only gain if the existing keeper isn't that good, and from what I've seen, he's not their issue. They have CR who is one the way down IMO and Bale who injuries kept him out of the team for parts of the season.