David De Gea

prtk0811 said:
Exactly. De gea can stil be a top keeper for next 10 years . 100 m euros is what we should get .
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The value of an elite keeper over his replacement is not the same as the value of an elite scorer/midfielder over his replacement. Especially when your team scores for fun like Madrid. He'll go for 50-60M tops.
 
It's tricky the fact he never denies these rumours and instead seems to encourage them makes it hard to root for him.

Do we want to keep a guy whose heart isn't in the club and didn't want to be here no matter how good he is ?

Thankfully we no longer rely on him as much so I'd rather let him go than sit through another real Madrid saga .. As for replacement I'd keep Romero and bed in Pereira who i rate very highly
 
prtk0811 said:
Chelsea wont sell courtois for lesser than 70 m pounds any way , If they want the spain no 1 stump up 100 m euros is the messege we should send or we want kroos or modric or casemiro in return with the cash.
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I could see us incorperating Bale into a deal if it happens, he has fallen out of favour with the Madrid fanbase but for me his decline has only been down to not being fully fit and not been given the chance to do so as well. A fit and firing bale is one of the worlds most dangerous footballers and his experience of the PL would be invaluable.

I hope De Gea stays though but there are a number of potential replacements that could fill his shoes almost.
 
No one is going to say anything now and the club is right to do that since we still have a lot to play for, it could affect moral or mess up concentration. However, I've totally accepted he will most likely leave and I can understand it. However, I do want a quick end to it all at the end of the season...just sell and move on. Once I know a player wants to go I pretty much lose interest in them and want them out asap.
 
Philadelphian said:
The value of an elite keeper over his replacement is not the same as the value of an elite scorer/midfielder over his replacement. Especially when your team scores for fun like Madrid. He'll go for 50-60M tops.
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These are inflated times, you dont pay for the quality of the player you pay a financial package to let the opposition team sell the player to you when they are reluctant to sell, No of shirts sold and image rights and everything inculded.
 
Mourinho isn't going to sign an 18 year old to be his number one.
 
I'm still not buying into De Gea transfer. Same as with Pogba, we won't match the wages United is willing to offer. Will De Gea accept considerably smaller wages? I hope he won't.
 
shabz said:
I could see us incorperating Bale into a deal if it happens, he has fallen out of favour with the Madrid fanbase but for me his decline has only been down to not being fully fit and not been given the chance to do so as well. A fit and firing bale is one of the worlds most dangerous footballers and his experience of the PL would be invaluable.

I hope De Gea stays though but there are a number of potential replacements that could fill his shoes almost.
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Bale is a typical English player with the same mentality towards fitness, the buck has passed on him now, he will decline sooner rather doing a robben.
 
togg said:
No one is going to say anything now and the club is right to do that since we still have a lot to play for, it could affect moral or mess up concentration. However, I've totally accepted he will most likely leave and I can understand it. However, I do want a quick end to it all at the end of the season...just sell and move on. Once I know a player wants to go I pretty much lose interest in them and want them out asap.
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Agreed.
 
togg said:
No one is going to say anything now and the club is right to do that since we still have a lot to play for, it could affect moral or mess up concentration. However, I've totally accepted he will most likely leave and I can understand it. However, I do want a quick end to it all at the end of the season...just sell and move on. Once I know a player wants to go I pretty much lose interest in them and want them out asap.
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Only for the right price United think meets the quality of the player we have.
 
dwd said:
You don't want him?
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I don't want him but no matter what I want you can see the issue. I believe United is willing to give him the mentioned salary and no way he's coming even close to that number in Madrid.
Wanting to come back to his home town is one thing, but doing it to get paid 5 mil €/year less, it's something I can't see happening. Don't think he want's it that much and it's not like fans are all crazy about signing him.
 
After all the money we poured into Raiola's coffers, Donnarumma is ours to take if we want him?
 
Adisa said:
Mourinho isn't going to sign an 18 year old to be his number one.
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Cech had played 78 games before he went to Chelsea (aged 22) and became Mou's number 1. Donnaruma (19 years old) has played 68 so far
 
Sassy Colin said:
Here's a bit of fuel for your non-existent flames:

http://www.101greatgoals.com/news/t...ving-pole-position-sign-gianluigi-donnarumma/
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This sounds fairly made up to be honest. However, given his performances so far he seems at least an equal talent to DDG and could possibly be the only keeper who may be able to replace him - after adapting to the PL and gaining more experience such as DDG at his beginning with us of course.

Nevertheless I can't see him leaving Milan/Italy at this stage - Raiola is just looking for a huge pay cheque for Donna and himself though.
 
gaucho_10 said:
I'm still not buying into De Gea transfer. Same as with Pogba, we won't match the wages United is willing to offer. Will De Gea accept considerably smaller wages? I hope he won't.
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I think he will
 
Quizierda said:
This sounds fairly made up to be honest. However, given his performances so far he seems at least an equal talent to DDG and could possibly be the only keeper who may be able to replace him - after adapting to the PL and gaining more experience such as DDG at his beginning with us of course.

Nevertheless I can't see him leaving Milan/Italy at this stage - Raiola is just looking for a huge pay cheque for Donna and himself though.
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The whole fecking thread is made up mate, why not introduce a little more bullshit?
 
Actually I am tired of this and if he wants , take a good price and sell him , don't think anymore he is that special to us if we have a good defense organization
 
Infra-red said:
Yes he had a year left. It was £29.3m plus Navas (who was reportedly valued at £12.6m), taking the total value of the deal to £41.9m. We should expect to get at least an extra 50% on that this time, given the respective contract situations. Somewhere around £60-70m, I'd guess.
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I think that is a good deal, he basically finances a player like belotti/Bernado silva or we can add to the squad with couple of real players. I would rather ask for Kroos/benzema/casemerio/asensio + money rather than taking duds like danilo/jamez/varane. I would not take isco either as he will slow the pace down and i think we will be interested in bernado silva than in jamez or isco.
 
gaucho_10 said:
I'm still not buying into De Gea transfer. Same as with Pogba, we won't match the wages United is willing to offer. Will De Gea accept considerably smaller wages? I hope he won't.
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dont think money is the issue here. Better stage, family/girlfriend and spain's no.1 in spain
 
MuranoLover said:
Actually I am tired of this and if he wants , take a good price and sell him , don't think anymore he is that special to us if we have a good defense organization
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I get what you're saying but of course he is still special. Doesn't matter how good your defence is. If you want to play in the champions league again and face the best attacks in the world - it's much better to have the best goalkeeper in the world at your back...
 
Romero would be my chooce, why not?

Also, i hear the young kid Perreira is a talented keeper so it woud be a good idea to enhance his develppmemt by playimg him in some of the cup games and the odd pl games next season.
 
Dax said:
Everyone will want to do it. Why Manchester United, if our players aren't in Manchester. He won't integrate with his defence. He won't be able to work in view of the manager.

Schweiny was said to be going back to Germany every week and it was said to have put a wedge between him and the rest of the squad.
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I wasn't being serious, or at least entirely serious...or was I, I don't know
 
carvajal said:
If I had to bet right now I´d say that he will come. James+ 30m €
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Of course the issue there is that Madrid are killing two birds with one stone, shifting a player they are desperate to sell, and at the same time getting a player they are desperate to buy, so it has to be a no.
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C'est Moi Cantona said:
Of course the issue there is that Madrid are killing two birds with one stone, shifting a player they are desperate to sell, and at the same time getting a player they are desperate to buy, so it has to be a no.
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Well, it clearly benefits us, although for me to value James at 40/30 million is a bargain.
The last thing I've heard is that he's going to get the Spanish nationality. Now there are those who believe that it may have something to do with an exit.
It could even be that we pay 70/80 for David and later United bid for James. I see that it is assumed that Mourinho does not want James and I at least do not have it so clear
 
It's an absolute certainty this year. And that's fine. No player bigger than a club. Just get as much money as possible.
 
carvajal said:
Well, it clearly benefits us, although for me to value James at 40/30 million is a bargain.
The last thing I've heard is that he's going to get the Spanish nationality. Now there are those who believe that it may have something to do with an exit.
It could even be that we pay 70/80 for David and later United bid for James. I see that it is assumed that Mourinho does not want James and I at least do not have it so clear
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I would doubt James would be a bargain when you factor in what a club would have to pay him, I just don't rate him that highly, and more importantly, when you look at our squad we just don't need a player like him.

Personally I think Madrid's best chance of this happening is if we miss out on CL, it will weaken our hand with DDG, and almost certainly put a stop on any Griezmann deal, but United been United (or Woodward been Woodward at least) will still want a 'big name', which is where this guy could come in, but it certainly wouldn't be a deal I'd be celebrating.
 
C'est Moi Cantona said:
I would doubt James would be a bargain when you factor in what a club would have to pay him, I just don't rate him that highly, and more importantly, when you look at our squad we just don't need a player like him.

Personally I think Madrid's best chance of this happening is if we miss out on CL, it will weaken our hand with DDG, and almost certainly put a stop on any Griezmann deal, but United been United (or Woodward been Woodward at least) will still want a 'big name', which is where this guy could come in, but it certainly wouldn't be a deal I'd be celebrating.
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I think that you need quality in the midfield.James is an option although if you have the chance you should try Bernardo Silva.
About Griezmann,I also heard about the C.L condition,but what if he wins the C.L this year. He could be more open to a new challenge.Or even without C.L,he won't get more of Atlético,talking about individual recognition,money or trophies.
About David,personally I think that doesn't matter the C.L or a new contract offer.
If he really wants to come,it's now or never.
If Mou helps a bit I am sure that Florentino will be generous too
 
While there is the obvious link by saying that he is Spanish, and he wants to return to Spain, doesn't the fact that he played for ATLETICO mean he wouldn't want to play for Real? Or does that not really matter?

I am of the opinion that great teams struggle for years to find a top class goalkeeper. Some times it inhibits their success because in key moments, that's where the goalkeepers are vital.

United should be doing what ever they can to keep him, he is simply irreplaceable.
 
lsd said:
It's tricky the fact he never denies these rumours and instead seems to encourage them makes it hard to root for him.

Do we want to keep a guy whose heart isn't in the club and didn't want to be here no matter how good he is ?

Thankfully we no longer rely on him as much so I'd rather let him go than sit through another real Madrid saga .. As for replacement I'd keep Romero and bed in Pereira who i rate very highly
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I see where you are coming from and I agree to an extent, but David is not that great at talking is he?
 
Frank Grimes said:
Love DDG but not one of these people who thinks he's worth an extra 10 points a season, if he leaves we will be fine.
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I think it's in the CL we'd really feel his loss. A Mourinho defence could probably protect a weaker keeper just fine against most PL teams but in games against the best of Europe having a keeper of DDG's quality could be the difference between getting knocked out and going through.
 
sullydnl said:
I think it's in the CL we'd really feel his loss. A Mourinho defence could probably protect a weaker keeper just fine against most PL teams but in games against the best of Europe having a keeper of DDG's quality could be the difference between getting knocked out and going through.
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Maybe but we could probably get as good a keeper as Keylor Navas, a lot of factors come into play. The main thing is we can't keep a player who wants to go.
 
Dobba said:
Best keeper on the planet for a permacrock? Pass. Toni Kroos and a bit of cash or they can shove it.
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Assuming we manage to persuade Real Madrid to part with their best midfielder (plus cash!) in exchange for a goalkeeper, what makes you think Madrid could persuade Kroos to be included in such a (humiliating) deal?
 
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