With Atletico, is it a case of pay the clause or jog on, like it seems to be with Bilbao?
David De Gea
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With Atletico, is it a case of pay the clause or jog on, like it seems to be with Bilbao?
If you were rich, you're telling me, you WOULDN'T get a slide or trampoline? Mate I'd get a freakin' bouncy castle.
Depends how crazy we are really. IF we pay a WR fee for him then I'm sure they would sell, they are a bit tight on money by all accounts. No chance we would pay the release clause.
Nag I don't see it. more likely to pay big bucks for Oblak.
First off I think staying simply because he let the clause expire last year and he will sign his new contract that Madrid won't match.
I remember the reports from a few months ago saying he was happy under Jose and thought the Madrid move had come and gone and he moved on from it.
I also for the life of me cannot remember a DDG save from this season. It's a good sign obviously but I'm struggling to think of one
I remember the reports from a few months ago saying he was happy under Jose and thought the Madrid move had come and gone and he moved on from it.
I also for the life of me cannot remember a DDG save from this season. It's a good sign obviously but I'm struggling to think of one
What weakens our position is how easily DDG seems to become distracted by this stuff, left out at the beginning of the LVG season because his head wasn't in it and then a couple of fumbles a few weeks ago when these rumours started to re-surface.
It is all well and good saying demand this much or tell em to feck off but in reality we would do well to negotiate a decent fee and let it be.
It is all well and good saying demand this much or tell em to feck off but in reality we would do well to negotiate a decent fee and let it be.
Those rumours about De Gea are now becoming tiresome! If they are not true then why can't he come out and dismiss them. He's a good goalkeeper but if his head can be turned so easily by another club, then he isn't the right player for us! Let cash on him and look for a goalkeeper who'll be 100% committed to the club.
I'd like to see the club starting to unsettle some Madrid's players too! We have the money, just offer to one of their best player an insane amount of money to unsettle the team! If m the like of Lingard can earn 100k/w, why can't we offer to Modric or Kroos a 300k/w contract! Like we did with Ramos.
I really despise that club, was over the moon when Messi made that celebration.
I'd like to see the club starting to unsettle some Madrid's players too! We have the money, just offer to one of their best player an insane amount of money to unsettle the team! If m the like of Lingard can earn 100k/w, why can't we offer to Modric or Kroos a 300k/w contract! Like we did with Ramos.
I really despise that club, was over the moon when Messi made that celebration.
How do we know he's distracted?
But only for a fair price or a fair deal, We are not gonna make it simpler for real madrid while we dont get oblak for cheaper than 100 m .
De gea was 20 when we got him and he was more developed than donnarumma. Donnarumma is a top potential but he still have 2-3 years to improve and develop before a big transfer , i saw him conceed few soft goals in the milan derby which should have been saved. If we are going to compete for all the titles he will leak some goals surely in epl.
If he does leave this summer I think we'll sign Kasper Schmeichel.
Intrigued at how much we value De gea though. Wonder if players will be exchanged or straight cash.
Intrigued at how much we value De gea though. Wonder if players will be exchanged or straight cash.
We dont get our valuation we dont sell this year as simple as that.
Couple of points here I have to make...
As someone who is pretty close to Atletico, I can say that if Atletico sell Griezmann in Summer, They are not going to sell Oblak aswell. Just not going to happen. They probably do need to sell one of their big names in Summer due to finance reasons but they absolutely won't sell two stars. Atleti are moving into a new stadium, they aren't going to start that off without 2 of their star players. Sends the complete wrong message to the fans, some of which are already not pleased about the move.
And as for Kasper Schmeichel, That be a huge downgrade similar to when we replaced Cristiano Ronaldo with Antonio Valencia. We cannot afford to do that again.
As someone who is pretty close to Atletico, I can say that if Atletico sell Griezmann in Summer, They are not going to sell Oblak aswell. Just not going to happen. They probably do need to sell one of their big names in Summer due to finance reasons but they absolutely won't sell two stars. Atleti are moving into a new stadium, they aren't going to start that off without 2 of their star players. Sends the complete wrong message to the fans, some of which are already not pleased about the move.
And as for Kasper Schmeichel, That be a huge downgrade similar to when we replaced Cristiano Ronaldo with Antonio Valencia. We cannot afford to do that again.
They easilily will have cash to replace him with a leno or ederson type keeper or another one in which their scouting is pretty good. If we are not going to get Oblak this year we should squeeze out another year out of de gea as well.
We don't I said seems to be distracted.
LVG mentioned it and Mourinho had to be asked about it.
Amazed at how many people seem to have accepted this is true. Can anyone honestly see us as a club contacting Madrid and saying we're open to negotiating for De Gea? The idea is completely absurd, even if we have said to Dave he can leave we wouldn't do that. Big Dave knocked on Jose's door and asked for a transfer and he just says, sure Dave, I'll get on the blower to Madrid right now. Even with one year left on his deal during the darkest days of Van Gaal we played hardball with Madrid and didn't back down on our asking price.
We've been told 3 years straight he's leaving in the summer, maybe this will be the year but we're not going to give him up without an almighty struggle which will begin by offering a big fat pay rise. Wise up.
We've been told 3 years straight he's leaving in the summer, maybe this will be the year but we're not going to give him up without an almighty struggle which will begin by offering a big fat pay rise. Wise up.
if he wants to go let him go, think this has been his worst season in the last 4 if i am honest, get a big fee and we move on, not sure what release clause Oblak has but surely we would get more for De Gea as he is on a long term contract. Pickford and Schmeichel would do a good job as well would be a level below De Gea but as is most goalkeepers. No chance i would be giving him another big contract.
im on the donnarumma train but would he be subjected to a "move to milan/turin to be at home" set of rumours?
Contrary to the perception around here, I don't believe Donnarumma will be cheaper than Oblak. He will certainly be more difficult to buy after the recent change in Milan ownership.
I agree, the Chinese got money coming out of their asses. They wouldn't let their prized asset go for anything resonable.
Just slap 100m price tag on him and tell the to pay up or get out. Fecking Real and their fecking shit every year go and bug Chelsea for once...
But the chinese investors are not government financed as it was supposed to be, it is a not so rich chinese guy and an american hedge fund. Given american history as football owners, i think if ddg is sold we could get donnaruma for 40-50mn, if he wants to leave that is.
Got a terrible feeling he is going this time.
AC just got their investment so Donnarumma won't be leaving.
Yet again the papers and made up speculation is getting certain people whipped up into a frenzy. It's all made up bollocks, move along.
the 40-50 million gbp/euro people are talking about for Donnarumma seems extremely steep, when he has 1 year left on his contract + we're in good contact with his agent Raiola.
He's good but he's also raw. I haven't watched him much, but from what I've seen, I would say he's much more raw than De Gea when he signed. Punches the ball a lot.
He's good but he's also raw. I haven't watched him much, but from what I've seen, I would say he's much more raw than De Gea when he signed. Punches the ball a lot.
Christ I hope not, we should be aiming way higher than Schmeichel and we already have a better goalie as our number two.
Probably, unless the player kicks up a fuss.
Mourinho has been pretty open about his policy regarding players who want to leave; he won't stand in their way. If De Gea has expressed such a desire, I don't imagine we'd play hardball you in quite the way you suggest. It would be a negotiation.
£60m-70m would still represent a mega, record-breaking fee for a goalkeeper. Before its 11th-hour scuppering two summer ago, we had agreed a deal to sell him to Madrid for £29.3m.
This will happen and we will sign schmichel as a replacement. I think d gea will leave for 30 million plus Morata/varane/jamez/danilo.
I would love it though if we could convince kroos to come. That would be something. As for de gea, i love him but i think a keeper will always have a selling price, if we can get million for him i think we have done very well considering he was always going to go back. One player i would not want is keylor Navas, i would love asensio though
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I would love it though if we could convince kroos to come. That would be something. As for de gea, i love him but i think a keeper will always have a selling price, if we can get million for him i think we have done very well considering he was always going to go back. One player i would not want is keylor Navas, i would love asensio though
.He had one year on his contract and it was 40 million wasnt it?
He's probably a player who doesn't like moving from his home country.
Not stand in his way, and asking for a lot of money is different things. I mean, I doubt that Mourinho will say, no, we won't negotiate for De Gea, suck it up. But he might ask for the maximum amount of money we can get. Buffon went for 53m euros 15 years ago, De Gea is a similar caliber of keeper so now he should cost twice as much.
We played hard ball with Everton for Schneiderlin. We made it clear that we'll sell him but at a respectable fee. I hope that we ask for at least 100m euros for De Gea. We don't need the money so no need to sell him cheap.
Any chance we could swap him for Marcelo + some €? Oh, he's contracted untill 2020 so not very likely.
Exactly. De gea can stil be a top keeper for next 10 years . 100 m euros is what we should get .
He has one and half year contract left , so money will not be an issue.
Chelsea wont sell courtois for lesser than 70 m pounds any way , If they want the spain no 1 stump up 100 m euros is the messege we should send or we want kroos or modric or casemiro in return with the cash.
Spot on. I was delighted by the stance the club took on Schneiderlin.
If he was to leave we should get shitloads of cash for him... he's regarded as one of the best goalies in the world. Last time a young goalie who was regarded as such was sold it was Buffon for 50 million euros... and that was back in 2001. So at least 75 million £ or they can stick with Navas. If we sell him I'd love it if we went for Donnarumma...
EDIT: Totally missed that you wrote this...
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EDIT: Totally missed that you wrote this...
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Yes he had a year left. It was £29.3m plus Navas (who was reportedly valued at £12.6m), taking the total value of the deal to £41.9m. We should expect to get at least an extra 50% on that this time, given the respective contract situations. Somewhere around £60-70m, I'd guess.