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Has to go, maybe the next keeper won't be as good as a shot stopper as de gea is perceived to be (by our fans only) but if the new one brings up to date with how modern keepers have evolved then it will still be a step forward.
Hopefully looks like he's losing patience with him
I know people are frustrated now. DDG is a club legend. Criticizing is ok, but not right to go beyond it. This is probably his last game for the club as no.1. I am sure he tried his best today but it’s time to move on.
I've been frustrated for the last 3 years with him. It's crystal clear he needs to go, and for some reason our inept club has offered him a new lucrative contract
But we don't have the luxury to do that. Pep could get it wrong 10 times and he'd still be given money for another one. Eth has to get this replacement right or we're stuck with him.
Thats why I was a proponent of giving him as cheap as possible an extension and then going hard for a keeper like your man at ac or Costa.
Until today.....
He's a legend if you only take into account the number of games he played for the club.
For actual performances though, he had as many underwhelming seasons as he had good ones. That's not the stuff of legends in my view.
Yeah I'd argue he's had more underwhelming seasons compared to good ones. Been poor since 2018 so that's 5 seasons plus his first season where he was settling in. 6-5 in favour of underwhelming.
He cost the club a lot of potential trophies with some truly abysmal performances in big matches.
We need to let him go and do our homework for a replacement. ETH knows the profile he wants in a GK and from there you narrow it down. We have no other choice. Liverpool bought Karius initially and then Alisson eventually and it worked out.
Simply cannot be our number 1 next season.
I know. Me too. Many too.I've been frustrated for the last 3 years with him. It's crystal clear he needs to go, and for some reason our inept club has offered him a new lucrative contract
Has to be moved on the game has evolved beyond just being a shot stopper in the last 10 years, distribution is essential with every team playing out from the back and sadly DDG is trying but it not his natural game.
He should absolutely be allowed to leave , hold his head held high after serving the club admirably throughout the years where football was more about fast breaks and keepers were essentially goal stoppers mostly.
Now in the modern game a GK is a ball playing player and it’s of equal importance as shot stopping and clubs will pay 70/100m for that specialists position. He can not do that role and therefore we need someone to come in and do it.
I’d like to see us spend big on the biggest and best player possible that can behave like that in goal. Not sure who that is Costa? Raya? But please it’s a huge issue.
The aimless over hit long balls today killed the final for us.
He should absolutely be allowed to leave , hold his head held high after serving the club admirably throughout the years where football was more about fast breaks and keepers were essentially goal stoppers mostly.
Now in the modern game a GK is a ball playing player and it’s of equal importance as shot stopping and clubs will pay 70/100m for that specialists position. He can not do that role and therefore we need someone to come in and do it.
I’d like to see us spend big on the biggest and best player possible that can behave like that in goal. Not sure who that is Costa? Raya? But please it’s a huge issue.
The aimless over hit long balls today killed the final for us.
They could only afford allison because they sold PC for 140 mil euro or something silly.
I just hope if we buy a raya for example he's capable of that step up. It's a scary time for what I feel is the hardest/harshest position in football.
Thees no hiding from mistakes
A legend that has cost the club in multiple big games over the years? Yeah, I don't think so.
From many sources, the search has been ongoing for quite awhile. We will have new GK next season.
He could've saved that second goal if he was better positioned or had a stronger hand.
I'd be more forgiving of him not making the odd save now and again if his shot stopping wasn't always described as this mythical power he has that we should be overlooking his weakness on crosses and his weakness with the ball at his feet.
On a side note, is the team purposely being set out for him to launch the ball as much as he does? Considering how we rarely had anyone contesting for the second balls once we inevitably lost out on headers, it doesn't seem to be. So the question is, is it tactical oversight on ETH's part, or is De Gea going against the instructions given to him by constantly going long?
I'd be more forgiving of him not making the odd save now and again if his shot stopping wasn't always described as this mythical power he has that we should be overlooking his weakness on crosses and his weakness with the ball at his feet.
On a side note, is the team purposely being set out for him to launch the ball as much as he does? Considering how we rarely had anyone contesting for the second balls once we inevitably lost out on headers, it doesn't seem to be. So the question is, is it tactical oversight on ETH's part, or is De Gea going against the instructions given to him by constantly going long?
Debatable about the second goal but come on, his kicking and playing out from the back is wretched.
He's a legend for the club and there was a period where he was, in my opinion, absolutely godlike in goal for us but it's all been downhill since the 18-19 season.
Wouldn't be surprised if the club let him go and weren't interested in a contract renewal . Maybe a deal has already been done with David Raya
He's a legend for the club and there was a period where he was, in my opinion, absolutely godlike in goal for us but it's all been downhill since the 18-19 season.
Wouldn't be surprised if the club let him go and weren't interested in a contract renewal
. Maybe a deal has already been done with David RayaIf we sign somebody for fairly cheap we can easily try again a season or two later. It's only if we go big and get it wrong that it makes it difficult. The key is that the first guy has to be better for the team than De Gea, even if they still aren't good enough long-term.
Do you know the question that was asked that led to this response? It reads like a generic comment but the tweet implies it refers to DDG's distribution.
Not sure, but all the reporters posting the same thing referring to being asked about de Geas passing.
This is where I am he literally costs us in massive moments in our history. Wish we had a strong commanding gk again. He should be put the door but has been offered new contract as was Pogba, crazy
Launching it 60 yards up the pitch when we have nobody who can control those balls is beyond idiotic.
He must have done that 75% of the times he had it.
Questionable effort for gundogans 2nd goal which bounced twice before it went in.
Cf is top priority but a new GK is 2nd.
He must have done that 75% of the times he had it.
Questionable effort for gundogans 2nd goal which bounced twice before it went in.
Cf is top priority but a new GK is 2nd.
Top cf is luxury addition but GK is the essential to our play. GK is the highest priority.
It's not like we're looking to replace a steady-eddy and we could go backwards as well as forwards. De Gea is floundering as it is, so the worst-case scenario is that we buy a keeper and they're as unreliable as our current keeper.
Both striker and goalkeeper are absolutely essential. Both are also easy to improve on to some extent even if we want to go fairly cheap, so it'll really be up to how we want to balance the funds between them and any other positions we want to upgrade on.
As the commentator on my stream said: "The José Mourinho of goalkeepers. Less quality and more nostalgia with every passing day. They remain in the spotlight as long there are organizations naive enough to feed on that nostalgia". United and DDG in a nutshell.
When a shot-stopping stopper stops stopping shots said stopper should get shot
I've repeatedly said that our issues stem from the back and the biggest culprit is De Gea. Keepers will make mistakes and that's normal. But you absolutely cannot have a keeper who is a minus 1 in possession rather than the plus 1, EtH spoke about. If the idea is to progress play via the positional play principles by positioning players in zones to create rondos/triangles, then De Gea is nowhere near good enough. And the reason he isn't good enough is because he doesn't take advantage of being the free man in the build up phase and it's easy for the opponent to go man to man and DDG will then you give you the ball back. So we end up playing in transition with the forwards being isolated due to the issue at the back which results in us playing in a deeper defensive line. And that's without going into De Gea's other weaknesses which include sweeping and lack of box control against aerial balls.
I've never rated De Gea and i'm still disappointed about Fergie not going with his own judgement when he told Eric Steele that he thought the young Neuer looked a better keeper and Schalke were wanting to sell him to a team other than Bayern. Eric Steele's response to Fergie was that De Gea would be a better keeper than Neuer in 3 years.
I've never rated De Gea and i'm still disappointed about Fergie not going with his own judgement when he told Eric Steele that he thought the young Neuer looked a better keeper and Schalke were wanting to sell him to a team other than Bayern. Eric Steele's response to Fergie was that De Gea would be a better keeper than Neuer in 3 years.
Nothing new to add, and yet you still have people defending him like he's a top shot saver.
For someone that is deemed as world class, he should be saving the winner.
But if you ignore that, look at our set up from the free kick and from other free kicks we defend. We are crowding near him due to the fact he can't come and use the advantage of his hands to claim a cross. It puts us at a disadvantage
The distribution stuff is as expected but it's the basics of goalkeeping that are frustrating. A few times the ball is played over and our defenders have to go back and get rid because the keeper who is looking forward decides to stand still.
He's a poor goalkeeper, us renewing him last time was a mistake, this time would be worse
For someone that is deemed as world class, he should be saving the winner.
But if you ignore that, look at our set up from the free kick and from other free kicks we defend. We are crowding near him due to the fact he can't come and use the advantage of his hands to claim a cross. It puts us at a disadvantage
The distribution stuff is as expected but it's the basics of goalkeeping that are frustrating. A few times the ball is played over and our defenders have to go back and get rid because the keeper who is looking forward decides to stand still.
He's a poor goalkeeper, us renewing him last time was a mistake, this time would be worse
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He should have saved that second goal and nobody can convince me otherwise.
His kicking and playing from the back was a big issue once again. The City keeper was miles better than him...
His kicking and playing from the back was a big issue once again. The City keeper was miles better than him...
I don't understand how at this level he's managed to get away with a kicking that's basically aimless.
He just boots it carelessly, it doesn't compute to me how bad he is at it
He just boots it carelessly, it doesn't compute to me how bad he is at it
Should of saved the second goal, booted long balls when we had no hope of winning them, GK is next on the list after a striker for me.
Excellent point about the defensive setup during set pieces to protect him. How many times will he cost us before he is sold ?
I'll accept your apology whenever you're ready to give it
I’ve posted we should close these accounts for a bit but another glass of wine later and I’m all for keeping them open and I was shocked about how many times he gave the ball away
Do that to a high pressing city team who won every ball from his kick and I’m just glad it was 1-2
Do that to a high pressing city team who won every ball from his kick and I’m just glad it was 1-2
I honestly think we have a great chance to let him walk (like we saw a few last season do)
GK should be number two priority
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