Yeah I agree, he definitely wants to be 2nd choice, who wouldn't be?
Danny Welbeck | Arsenal player
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b/c remember Wenger had Adebayor who used to miss a lot of chances too. So I think Wenger will see "getting in scoring positions" as positives.
So? What's that got to do with anything I've just said?
Especially in a game where he had 3 clear goal scoring opportunities that they lost 2-0, Wenger would love that.
He's quite good for England!
The sarcastic comments whenever he misses stopped being funny a long time ago.
I don't believe LVG was wrong to sell Welbeck. I think it was the right decison for united and for Danny himself. He was never ever going to get the chance to play in the position he wanted at United. He was never going to be a main striker at United. In my personal opinion, lovely guy that he is, he wasn't good enough and won't be for Arsenal either. Buy hey..it's just my opinion.
I never really thought he would be the kind of player suited for a one striker system. He's always operated well with a strike partner both at United and for England. Arsenal didn't help matters by playing Ramsey furthest forward through the middle and Ozil on the wings.
And if my aunty had balls, she'd be my uncle.
I'll stick my head on the line and say he'll never be a clinical striker. He's nearly 24, he's been playing at the top level for a long time, yet he can't hit a barndoor with a banjo. It's not even because he's played out of position. When he's through on goal, rarely does he not feck it up whether he's playing left wing or centre forward.
Makes it all the more funnier the plonkers who were crying themselves to sleep thinking he'll magically put his finishing boots on once he's played down the middle, easily scoring 15-20 goals this season.
Really don't understand Gary Neville saying 16 million was too low for him and that was before his first game for them. He's never been prolific and whilst I get the argument that he's not had a consistent run as a centre forward and he contributes outside the box, Arsenal need him to score 20-25 goals this season if they want to challenge for the league and get past the first knockout round in the Champions League. It could happen, but there's no way he was undervalued by us in my opinion.
I don't disagree with your opinion. Do you have me confused with someone else or something?
I think it's way too early to judge either way because our..oops their Danny is still a work in progress, that was clear when he left and it hasn't changed in the past couple of weeks. Whether he will ever fulfil that promise is neither here nor there because of unforeseeable factors like injury, sudden bursts/losses of form that affect confidence etc. The problem is the shit stirrers in the media that screamed murder and our own legends who can't seem to shut the feck up and support the club at it's lowest ebb.
I supported him being sold. Really a win win for all parties involved. I doubt Danny will improve much beyond where he is now, and won't be surprised if he languishes at Arsenal for a year or two before they decide to buy a top striker.
Looked like a typical Welbeck performance to me.
For me over the last couple of years he just wasn't consistent/reliable enough with his touch, technique, control and decision making. At the top level a forward needs to be in complete command of his technique, with Danny you just never know what to expect. Personally I was quite happy with 16 million. Perhaps we could've got more, but it's not like we were robbed or anything.
For me over the last couple of years he just wasn't consistent/reliable enough with his touch, technique, control and decision making. At the top level a forward needs to be in complete command of his technique, with Danny you just never know what to expect. Personally I was quite happy with 16 million. Perhaps we could've got more, but it's not like we were robbed or anything.
Didnt Dortmund sign Immoblie for around the same money?
22 league goals for Torino last season. The way transfer fees are in England(14mil for Borini for example) Arsenal could have done worse that try to sign him.
If he has a similar game this weekend, I can see the Arsenal fans turning on him. But I defo think he will score this weekend.
The back and forth with the mods has been hilarious. 
Not really my point. He's gone from being 4th choice to 1st choice for a CL league team who demand a top 4 finish... I'm not sure many understand just how big a leap that is, or the kind of pressure he'll be under.
He'll do best as a 2nd choice striker who plays for a CL team.
I'm sure he'd rather that than 1st choice striker for Hull - that's my point.
Think it was too low really. Regardless of his talent, to sell a top 4 side (who were desperate) a player who they're going to use as their main striker for 16 mil is a bit low. Top championship strikers are going for almost as much and we paid almost twice as much for a (very talented but young) left back. In these respects it is a low price.
Possibly, but then I think that Ross McCormack going for 11 million is madness, as is paying 27 million for Fellaini. Not that I want him to, but Danny could be a total dud for them and because he doesn't have the numbers (yet) to show he can score the goals Arsenal need I'm not surprised. Sturridge went to Liverpool for around 12 million or so and had a slightly better record, so even in a world where PSG paid 50 million for Luiz (
) it's not a bad deal for us. It's a gamble, hope he does well except against us.'I actually think he'll probably be happiest being 2nd choice CF to Giroud' is what you said. But I'll take your point.
He was never top class, and I do not think he ever will be. But he has had very good moments and I wish him some more. Especially against Liverpool, Chelsea, and Man City. 
Yeah, what of it?
Ok, 'happiest given his realistic options in the long run'.
And they say posters on here can tend toward the pedantic...
The likes of souness can rate arsenal all he likes, its the same old result with arsenal, and with welbeck same old inconsistency which summed up some of the united squad the past few years
I've always been a big Welbeck fan. Think he has exceptional technical ability and is blessed with fantastic physical attributes (that's what she said..arf), but whenever he broke through on goal, you always felt he was either going to produce a sublime finish or rather more likely, completely goof it up. He doesn't do the simple (in front of goal) well. More likely to score with a flicked back heel than in a one on one.
Spent the last few years at United waiting for him to put it all together and hoping that he would. But now he's left, a part of me likes watching him stay true to form (inconsistent) because it'd be hard to stomach all that nurturing, only for Le Arse to benefit. So far he's not giving me too much to worry about.
Spent the last few years at United waiting for him to put it all together and hoping that he would. But now he's left, a part of me likes watching him stay true to form (inconsistent) because it'd be hard to stomach all that nurturing, only for Le Arse to benefit. So far he's not giving me too much to worry about.
He left because he wanted to play in his favoured position all the time.
I don't think he'd want to leave to eventually end up on the bench or out wide basically exactly the same as he was for United.
I honestly think he'd rather play for Hull and be the main man but I don't think he'd ever score enough goals to help out Hull enough.
Without wishing to destroy the guy, by my reckoning he's had 5 good chances in the 2 games he's played so far and a top striker would have buried at least 2 or 3. The one against City was slightly unfortunate, but he didn't even test the keeper tonight and if you're playing as a centre forward that's what counts. Despite what he offers in link up play, it's goals that Arsenal will want most from him. With Giroud out, there's even more pressure on him to fire from the beginning but if you want to reach the highest level then it's something you have to deal with- he's 24 in a couple of months, not a kid anymore.
Thats not the point. You don't buy a player who's known deficiencies is his goal scoring record and get disappointed by 2 performances even though you lost one. You knew that when you paid for him. Positives are there: high work rate, linked up well with other players, made good runs and got himself into scoring positions. The one(and biggest) problem is that he's not putting them away.
I still think Ozil should be behind Welbeck and Wilshere should play as a #8.
Where does Sanchez usually play? Could they play Walcott through the middle and Wlebeck on the left and Sanchez on the right?
Poor performance today. "Good movement and passing" doesn't cut it for a striker. He's a striker, he is supposed to score goals, if he can't then he can't be that good. Arsenal are full of players who can move and pass.
By the way, anybody who wants Welbeck to succeed with a rival (Arsenal) just to piss of random people on an internet forum is acting far more childishly than people taking pleasure from him failing with Arsenal. What's next? Hoping he scores the winner at Old Trafford to silence the critics?
I loved Welbeck for many years, and I would definitely have wished him well had he gone to another club, but since he chose to join a rival then there is no way I'd want him to succeed there now.
By the way, anybody who wants Welbeck to succeed with a rival (Arsenal) just to piss of random people on an internet forum is acting far more childishly than people taking pleasure from him failing with Arsenal. What's next? Hoping he scores the winner at Old Trafford to silence the critics?
I loved Welbeck for many years, and I would definitely have wished him well had he gone to another club, but since he chose to join a rival then there is no way I'd want him to succeed there now.
When we're spending well over 100m on new players does it really make any difference whether we got 16m or 18m for Danny Welbeck?
Truth is, 16m is about right for Danny. Maybe we could have squeezed 18m but it would have hardly been worth the hassle for the extra 2m at a time when we were spending gobs for players who take us to a higher level, which Danny was never going to do.
Truth is, 16m is about right for Danny. Maybe we could have squeezed 18m but it would have hardly been worth the hassle for the extra 2m at a time when we were spending gobs for players who take us to a higher level, which Danny was never going to do.
That's a bit unfair, van Gaal said in his pre-QPR presser that he didn't feel Welbeck was at the level he wanted. What was he going to do, refuse to move and run out his contract playing as fourth choice completely stagnating his career? If Arsenal are saying they want you and the club sanctions the transfer, you aren't going to say 'no thanks, I'll play for Newcastle or Villa because the United fans won't like that'. I'm sure Danny would have wanted to stay his entire career at United, but if the manager's telling you that you aren't going to make it, it's foolish bury your head in the sand.
Not saying it's his "fault", he can choose what he wants for his career, but if he joins a rival then I can't wish him to succeed. It's not out of "hate" or a "reaction" to his move, it's just based on the fact that he's playing for a rival team right now. If he quits Arsenal and joins Aston Villa then I'll definitely cheer for him (unless he's playing us).
That's fair enough then I suppose.
Oh by the way I forgot to post the one you can't even prove it wrong
http://www.whoscored.com/Players/39308/History/Danny-Welbeck
I really don't know where people are getting 20 goals a season as a prediction from. I do think that once Giroud comes back then Wenger will deploy Welbeck out wide, which I know is something he would rather not happen to him.
There's a few immature people in this thread. Anyway, hasn't really been the best starts for Welbeck, in terms of some of his missed opportunities, but I think the main thing is that he's getting into those positions. Like Wenger said, all he needs is a goal to get that monkey off his back, and will hopefully find a run of form, where he starts scoring often.
Would be quite ironic if he was to be pushed out wide to accommodate another striker
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