I've found that so funny.
Danny Welbeck | Arsenal player
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I didn't really see it as Falcao vs Welbeck anyway if I'm honest. I think it was Falcao vs Hernandez; with Welbeck against the likes of Mata, Di Maria, Young, Rooney & Januzaj. He'd have probably taken Januzaj's role in the squad if truth be told.
I think the answer as to Van Gaal's impact on him was probably shown by his eagerness to get rid of him. We heard the same from peterstorey about how Wenger was going to turn him into a top class centre forward who'd be getting 20+ goals a season. For me Welbeck's level as a consistent centre forward is a team like Swansea, where he'd probably score 10-15 goals a season and would slot in quite well.
Four seasons early in that case; he'd have been a better option than Blackett/McNair!
Welbeck 4 premier league goals. Smalling 4 premier league goals.
Not good enough for Manchester United said van Gaal. You think he was onto something?
Not good enough for Manchester United said van Gaal. You think he was onto something?
Its rare but you're spot on Kevin.
From nearly 60 shots this season. That's absolutely absurd how it's so low a figure.
What do you want from him, he runs and opens up spaces for other players.
And he had to get a fecking goal against us. Of course it's against us.
People love skewing the Welbeck narrative, we didn't want to sell him, he wanted to go because he wanted to be the main striker, so we even sold him a rival, we couldn't have treat him any fairer than that. The fact is he doesn't score nearly enough goals to ever be the main striker at a top side.
Giroud is better in one area and that's finishing which is essential for a striker.
Dont think you can help a striker be more decisive with his finishing.
Aye, we were right to sell him. To think that people were suggesting we were ripped off too. Got a good deal for him.
We were right to sell him. The only thing we didn't do right was replacing him with Falcao, who has also been poor.
What you're all forgetting is that Wenger didn't know when Giroud would return from injury and whether he'd still be any good. The unknown is that he came back in stonking form so Welbeck has suffered with less appearances. When we bought him we were desperate, incredibly desperate, and he was a perfect fit for our needs. We'd have had to play Sanogo or Joel campbell up top and that would have been a disaster. The fact that DW hasn't scored much doesn't really bother me at all. We are a team that spreads goals around the team and when Welbeck plays he contributes to that with his workrate and assists.
For the money he's been worth every penny, unlike Falcao. I'm pretty sure he'd have got a lot of goals for you had he stayed too. I still wish we'd bid 40,000,002 for Suarez though.
For the money he's been worth every penny, unlike Falcao. I'm pretty sure he'd have got a lot of goals for you had he stayed too. I still wish we'd bid 40,000,002 for Suarez though.
Goals.....
Arsenal fans I've spoken to (down south half my friends are either Arsenal/Spuds), all have varying opinions on the guy, much like many United fans over the years, some think he's not good enough due to his lack of goals, others see him as a good player due to his team work and movement, others somewhere in the middle thinking for the price they paid, they got a half decent deal, even if he's only a backup for Giroud or comes in for Ozil or whomever on their left flank.
I'd say I'm not a huge Welbeck fan, simply for the fact he asked out twice before he was sold and history seems to have been rewritten that he was forced out against his will... he wasnt, for someone claiming to be United through and through I dont think he put up much, if any resistance to the idea of leaving.
I'd also like to point out with a bit of smugness the fact he went from a semi-automatic starter on our left (when not having the chance to be played upfront), which he deemed not good enough for his talent level to lately being sat on the bench a fair amount for Arsenal now Giroud, Ramsey, Ozil and co. are back and in-form.
I'd say I'm not a huge Welbeck fan, simply for the fact he asked out twice before he was sold and history seems to have been rewritten that he was forced out against his will... he wasnt, for someone claiming to be United through and through I dont think he put up much, if any resistance to the idea of leaving.
I'd also like to point out with a bit of smugness the fact he went from a semi-automatic starter on our left (when not having the chance to be played upfront), which he deemed not good enough for his talent level to lately being sat on the bench a fair amount for Arsenal now Giroud, Ramsey, Ozil and co. are back and in-form.
Giroud has a far better gameplay than Welbeck. The only thing Welbeck has on Giroud is the speed. In everything else, Giroud is comfortably better.
I still think Arsenal got a good deal. £16m for a squad player who is English isn't too bad at all consider you need to have at least 8 Home grown players in your squad.
I think what is debatable is whether or not Welbeck made the right decision since he didn't want to be a squad player at United but that's irrelevant to Arsenal fans. If Giroud keeps delivering, then what's the problem.
He's done well and is popular with the fans, I still expect Wenger to get some improvement out of him too.
Has he done well?
Falcao has a better conversion rate, has the same amount of goals/assists, and has done it all in significantly fewer minutes than Welbeck. And Falcao has been shit.
Falcao has a better conversion rate, has the same amount of goals/assists, and has done it all in significantly fewer minutes than Welbeck. And Falcao has been shit.
I know, I was being sarcastic.
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