Maybe I was been serious. Who's tone deaf now?
Danny Welbeck | Arsenal player
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Maybe I was been serious. Who's tone deaf now?
You weren't been serious though
I got bored... interesting comparison is looking at Rooneys stats when he plays as a Secondary Striker compared to his stats as a Center Forward. I should probably compare Rooney with Mata if I can be bothered.
I'm surprised at how low Hernandez' shots statistics were, also surprised at how high his Key Passes were.
I'm surprised at how low Hernandez' shots statistics were, also surprised at how high his Key Passes were.
You guys are trying a lot harder than the Arsenal fans to prove this was a mistake.
I haven't said a word....Except that he's a prat and that people need to get over this whole "Oh no!! Not Danny!!! Our Identity is dead" bullshit
His Dad said he wanted Madrid, but went to Utd after turning down Liverpool, City, Arsenal
So he was shit in training.
Mendes and money.
He may well have still joined us even if all the offers were the same and his agent didn't have links to here, but still...
Envisaged, dreamed. Not a big difference.
Can't quite believe anyone would use a word like "envisaged" in a conversation, mind you.
Envisaged.
It's not rocket science. We all know welbeck's qualities and how well he should fit into Arsenal's team. There's nothing to prove.
But i think most of the comments has a lot more to do with the fact that Welbeck is a youth product. We did the same when Pogba and Morrison went. And we'll do the same if James Wilson was to leave.
My oh my...Arsenal fans and their sats will have a field day with this.I got bored... interesting comparison is looking at Rooneys stats when he plays as a Secondary Striker compared to his stats as a Center Forward. I should probably compare Rooney with Mata if I can be bothered.
I'm surprised at how low Hernandez' shots statistics were, also surprised at how high his Key Passes were.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27095993
Moyes didn't deny it to the BBC. So I'm guessing it was true.
Thought I was the only one shocked at that.
Danny actually knows a few words or two...Good lad
I might sound heartless but I no longer care about how Danny gets on.
The club wanted to keep him and he could have challenged for a place up front alongside an unfit RVP and dire Rooney, but he chose to force through a permanent move to our top 4 rivals and reject our preference for him to go to Spurs on loan. I dont resent him for it but as far as I'm concerned he's just another player who plays for one of our rivals. The more underwhelming he is the better for us.
I hope for nothing but the best for the likes of Brown and O'Shea, but Welbeck is pretty much a Pogba to me (except he was actually given chances).
The club wanted to keep him and he could have challenged for a place up front alongside an unfit RVP and dire Rooney, but he chose to force through a permanent move to our top 4 rivals and reject our preference for him to go to Spurs on loan. I dont resent him for it but as far as I'm concerned he's just another player who plays for one of our rivals. The more underwhelming he is the better for us.
I hope for nothing but the best for the likes of Brown and O'Shea, but Welbeck is pretty much a Pogba to me (except he was actually given chances).
And people will do exactly that.
Find it very hard to believe an online fans forum has any meningful insight into Van Gaal's thinking regards his squad. I reckon there's members of the squad who are still a little in the dark about exactly where they stand in his pecking order. The whole UWS secret cabal smacks of your standard internet "ITK" bullshit artists.
This specific bit of info is particularly hard to believe with Welbeck being one of the best United players in pre-season and the team looking so much better with him on the pitch in every competitive game since.
Not you, it's just that's about the fifth graphic I've seen about his goals per minutes. Y'all got Falcao, let it go.
On the whole envisaged/dreamed thing, I reckon there isn't a striker in the PL who hasn't wondered what it would be like to play for Arsenal, due to their amazing ability to create and squander so many chances over the course of a season.
We are not though.
Ah I'm just throwing it out there.....More so for the "OH MY GOD OUR IDENTITY!!!" posters to read.
LVG clearly didn't like something about him though. Otherwise, he wouldn't have been sold. Who knows really?! Who cares?! He's gone
dont u mean can't believe a footballer would use a world like that?
It's interesting looking at it because it does debunk a few myths about certain players. Also it's even more baffling as to why David Moyes rushed RvP back every time he came back from injury last season. Yet another example of his poor management like we didn't already know. Crazy to see that Danny only had 4 shots less on target despite playing 500mins less.
I'm tempted to record stats for this season. Could prove interesting!
I am sure most of the players in PL wished/envisaged/dreamt in playing in Man ut'd sides who were winning PL medals constantly.
Nope. This info was posted on the board in June.
You don't know what currency I meant KM
Why challenge for a position you're extremely unlikely to get, when you can go to a club where you'll have a manager who wants you and four months of almost guaranteed playing time up front? He doesn't owe us anything. And why go on loan to Tottenham, who don't know whether their managers coming or going on a monthly basis. Plus loans suck.
And you don't think Brown or O'Shea would have gone to Arsenal if they were wanted there and weren't wanted here?
I do agree, though, that he's just another opposition player now. You support the team you play for, as footballer. He's not a United fan any more. When it comes to "squeaky bum" time, he certainly wont be a fan wanting us to win. So why want him to do well?
Fixed.
That's really interesting. It all adds up as well.
God help this place then when Danny scores his first for Arsenal.. many will be on suicide watch by looks of it.
I'm glad he'd injured for England. Bit more time to mourn.
If he scores a hat-trick against City. Talk about bittersweet!
who cares. For whatever reason, players come and go but the club is still here. Its much more interesting to see how LVG will use the players that he has.
Wes Brown and Darren Fletcher were always on the fringes of the team early in their career, yet they both persisted and became starters in the team (granted Fletcher is a bit cack now). Welbeck is still only 23 and has had the chance to work under a world class manager renown for his work with youth, and with RVP and Rooney underwhelming so far, he could have once again proven himself. Yet he chose to bail and join Arsenal of all teams.
That probably gives us a year to find a cure then.
I got bored... interesting comparison is looking at Rooneys stats when he plays as a Secondary Striker compared to his stats as a Center Forward. I should probably compare Rooney with Mata if I can be bothered.
I'm surprised at how low Hernandez' shots statistics were, also surprised at how high his Key Passes were.
Those are really hard to interpret because at least half of them need to be adjusted for the big differences in minutes played.
They make a mockery of the widespread opinion on here that RvP was better than Rooney last season, mind you. Rooney was, statistically, a much better centre-forward than him.
I imagine a comparison of passes attempted/completed will make Rooney look even better still. Wouldn't be surprised if Welbeck looks particularly good from that perspective too.
hehe. That was quick.
It's for your own good.
But instead the manager decided to cut loose...maybe to let Adnan get more game time...maybe Wilson...maybe because Welbeck actually wanted game time...maybe because welbeck will never be a starter for us most likely and 16m and the chance to trim down a bloated squad made sense. Who cares...we've lost better and the club rolls on.
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